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Marlona Sky
Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.08.07 16:06:00 -
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Originally by: csebal
Originally by: Marlona Sky More suicide ganker emo rage quit tears please. EVE is a cruel and harsh place and you just lost your ISK button. Grow up!
The point of your post is..
what exactly?
This isnt just about suicide ganking. This is about the way CCP approaches problems. Instead of making fine adjustments to the system and watch how it reacts, they constantly keep going to the extremes.. Hell even for newly added stuff, they add is 'pre-nerfed' so that they make sure its not unbalanced, but the fact that it is pre-nerfed usually makes it unbalanced and worthless to begin with.
This is a clear sign that people over there are either unwilling (lazy) or just plain unable (incompetent) to make proper game design decisions.
None of those options are really promising.
So please, for f..s sake.. go troll somewhere else and let the honest people shout the living s..t out of CCP for what they are doing. Not that it matters anyway, but at least they can't say noone told them they are wrong.
Mmmmmmmm... the tears taste so good.
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General Paul
League of Disgruntled Fast Food Employees
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Posted - 2008.08.07 16:14:00 -
[392]
a solution to suicide gankign already exists =/ a buffer tanked vulture.
Now thats secure space will be so much more secure and hundreds will flock to this lovely place what happens to the lag caused by all the invicible noobs grinding agents in there 6 billion isk ratting ships?
This seems in effect to be a boost to unethical people who exploit third world countries populations to farm isk and change it into real world cash. People should live in fear or defend themselves.
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.08.07 16:22:00 -
[393]
Originally by: General Paul a solution to suicide gankign already exists =/ a buffer tanked vulture.
lol ...
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Ahzara Zhin
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Posted - 2008.08.07 16:24:00 -
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Originally by: Karando Requesting balance in EVE, CCP has to implement the following changes in order to improve the game. 1) Disband the CSM and ban all of it's members with no interest in PvP from EVE 2) Fire newly hired CCP employees (employeement time < 6 months) (Including, but not limited to CCP Fear and CCP Nozh) 3) Restrict forum access to accounts with over 100 player kills.
You can take that and stick it in your ***!
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Lucy'Lastic
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.08.07 16:38:00 -
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Originally by: General Paul a solution to suicide gankign already exists =/ a buffer tanked vulture..
lol. Please post when you know what you are talking about.
Originally by: General Paul
Now thats secure space will be so much more secure and hundreds will flock to this lovely place what happens to the lag caused by all the invicible noobs grinding agents in there 6 billion isk ratting ships?
No extra lag will be created by making it more difficult to suicide gank someone and those 6 billion isk ships will not be invincible.
Originally by: General Paul
This seems in effect to be a boost to unethical people who exploit third world countries populations to farm isk and change it into real world cash. People should live in fear or defend themselves.
Oh dear. You really are bitter.
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General Paul
League of Disgruntled Fast Food Employees
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Posted - 2008.08.07 16:46:00 -
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do many gank squad do 300K damage against a command ship hull ? I always transport expensive goods in tanked ships.
Not bitter either, im not a suicide ganker, I just feel empire space should be clsoed down forever, you would get less clustered sectors of space and so less lag. Everyone wins.
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CliveMerric
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Posted - 2008.08.07 16:58:00 -
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i feel hurt, i believe that eve is a 'cold dark place' that should be fundamentally unsafe. And as it now stands there are numerous counters to ganking, like not using ap with expensive cargoes or just paying attention. Ive never ganked but i strongly oppose this MASSIVE change in gameplay. Please do not make high sec into totally safe space
CCP please oh please when you want to change something MAJOR please change 1 thing at a time not 4 and hope the place dosent go to hell.
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Sal Alo
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.08.07 17:00:00 -
[398]
I feel the fear
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Raneru
eXceed Inc. eXceed.
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Posted - 2008.08.07 17:16:00 -
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Originally by: Karando
3) Restrict forum access to accounts with over 100 player kills.
Loving that idea!
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Dominatus Crispus
Gallente Genesis Rising
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Posted - 2008.08.07 17:29:00 -
[400]
i agree with this change, and for the whiners...
learn to adapt... ____________________
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Axhind
Caldari Ex Coelis The Bantam Menace
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Posted - 2008.08.07 17:31:00 -
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Originally by: CliveMerric i feel hurt, i believe that eve is a 'cold dark place' that should be fundamentally unsafe. And as it now stands there are numerous counters to ganking, like not using ap with expensive cargoes or just paying attention. Ive never ganked but i strongly oppose this MASSIVE change in gameplay. Please do not make high sec into totally safe space
CCP please oh please when you want to change something MAJOR please change 1 thing at a time not 4 and hope the place dosent go to hell.
How about you try and play the other side before all the whine? Manualy flying the freighter doesn't help against the suicide ganks. Nor do almost free torp ravens. Hulks are also easy target as they can not perform their function without exposing them selves to any ganker with half a brain cell.
I know it's nice to have an ISK button that is almost as risk free as trading but that doesn't make it balanced. At least traders have to suffer the isk wars.
But don't let reality interupt your whine.
PS: I've never thought I would agree with a member of DOOM but tears are real tasty in here (almost as good as the EPIC nano whine).
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Hero Crane
Bilge Rats of Tortuga
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Posted - 2008.08.07 18:25:00 -
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Originally by: General Paul
This seems in effect to be a boost to unethical people who exploit third world countries populations to farm isk and change it into real world cash. People should live in fear or defend themselves.
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WHAT!?!?!
~_^ WHO'S...YOUR...HERO!!! |
Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.08.07 18:28:00 -
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This is nothing but a boost to high sec money making. Sorry but ccp is hoe'ing for money again. ----------------------------------------- [Video] Support Barrage |
Kurann
Amarr Crimson Flag
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Posted - 2008.08.07 18:38:00 -
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Edited by: Kurann on 07/08/2008 18:39:26
Originally by: Sethose Olderon Edited by: Sethose Olderon on 07/08/2008 16:22:46
HAHA! Looks like the Jarheads aren't liking this one too much.
I'm loving this.
Also, Empire space is supposed to be secure folks, if you want to gank each other, you should have to go to low-sec and 0.0.
Jarheads prey on noobies, and easy targets in empire simply because they are easy targets, and they think it's funny to watch someone loose a billion isk everytime their freighter is ganked.
If it weren't for industrialists you'd be sitting in dock with nothing to fly. THINK ABOUT IT!
These changes are badly needed, and appreciated.
Personally, I find it rather annoying that Jarheads get all the Goodies. They get something in every patch and whine about what they think they should have regardless.
Rarely do the Industrialists get anything worthwhile, and mostly its something else for Jarheads to shoot at.
Jarheads in this game have it pretty easy, so can the Indies get a few Goodies, huh?
/rant
and what exactly are we supposed to shoot in low sec? have you been there recently? there is no one but bored pirates there. Once in a while you will get some random noob, but thats about it.
As a career pirate (posting with my main...OMG?!?!?!?) i am spending most of my time sitting around waiting for that 1 in a million chance a noob will enter low sec.
My solution (compiled from other posts and my own thoughts): Since CCP likes doing the extreme, move all level 4's level 3's to low sec, have say a 30% chance of level 2's take you to low sec (and you can decline the mission if you want to stay in pink fuzzy high sec with concord giving you a reach around anytime you want), move all hidden belts to low sec, spawn some good roids in low sec, spawn faction ships in low sec, and forget the sec changes. I don't want to work harder to get to -10, that would be silly. The reason i pirate is for the -10, and cause i like pew pewing anything i see.
you want to populate low sec? there ya go. you can't solo mine, or you will get ganked. you can't solo mission, cause you will get ganked. both forces "players" into player corps, because noob corps are just that, full of noobs. and please, bring your shiny faction gear too, i has to feeds my pirate babiez.
k thnx bai
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Akiko Reikio
Intergalactic Squad
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Posted - 2008.08.07 18:56:00 -
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To balance this, how about you disallow players from staying in NPC corps indefinetly, or make them war decable. The later would really just be funny.
Just a thought.
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Ironnight
Caldari x13 X13 Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.07 19:46:00 -
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Originally by: Sethose Olderon Edited by: Sethose Olderon on 07/08/2008 16:22:46
HAHA! Looks like the Jarheads aren't liking this one too much.
I'm loving this.
Also, Empire space is supposed to be secure folks, if you want to gank each other, you should have to go to low-sec and 0.0.
/rant
Its supposed to be safer, not safe, well that was the way it was, before the hello kitty online people took over. Go back there please.
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Dray
Caldari Malevolent Emo Herders
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Posted - 2008.08.07 20:13:00 -
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Bottom line is cash flow, back in the day when eve kicked off people were drawn to it for the very reasons most cry on the forums, losses hurt, and there was no real safety beyond the safety you and your friends gave each other.
Now eve is a different beast, theres a lot of money in this game and people want safety and no risk, they are in the majority, for me the galling thing is CCP wont admit this so f**k them, but i dont blame them, catering to the needs of the few wont keep subs up, and ultimately thats what pays the bills, and that what feeds the kids.
I'd rather they just came out and admitted this.
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Joey Meow
MURAKAMI INDUSTRIES
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Posted - 2008.08.07 20:49:00 -
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Originally by: Dray Bottom line is cash flow, back in the day when eve kicked off people were drawn to it for the very reasons most cry on the forums, losses hurt, and there was no real safety beyond the safety you and your friends gave each other.
Now eve is a different beast, theres a lot of money in this game and people want safety and no risk, they are in the majority, for me the galling thing is CCP wont admit this so f**k them, but i dont blame them, catering to the needs of the few wont keep subs up, and ultimately thats what pays the bills, and that what feeds the kids.
I'd rather they just came out and admitted this.
Pretty much what it is. CCP needs to make money, majority of people want "safer" environment, CCP needs to accommodate in order to continue to make money. EVE will never revert to the 20k Online, unless it enters the decline, as all games do eventually. The way things are going, we will only see more growth and more "mainstream" player coming in, which is all good.
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Solomon XI
Caldari Hoist The Colors.
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Posted - 2008.08.07 21:13:00 -
[409]
CCP is epic fail.
Nuff' said.
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Shinigami
Gallente Shinra
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Posted - 2008.08.07 21:25:00 -
[410]
Edited by: Shinigami on 07/08/2008 21:27:11
Originally by: Joey Meow Pretty much what it is. CCP needs to make money, majority of people want "safer" environment, CCP needs to accommodate in order to continue to make money. EVE will never revert to the 20k Online, unless it enters the decline, as all games do eventually. The way things are going, we will only see more growth and more "mainstream" player coming in, which is all good.
It's a good way to pay back all those people who have been loyal over the years, and those who came because they wanted something different. You know the guys who kept them from going bankrupt before they could afford ads on BSG.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.08.07 21:31:00 -
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but I always liked reading the whines, moving a billion isk, coming back and reading more whines. Looks like I won't be able to do that anymore
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Minessis
Rebirth. Ashes to Agony
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Posted - 2008.08.07 22:59:00 -
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well these changes would be fine and dandy if the population of low sec (0.3 - 0.1) wasn't approaching zero...
fact of the matter is that there really are no benefits to carebearing in lowsec atm and so as it stands, low sec is virtually uninhabited...
maybe if crokite and bistot spawned in lowsec systems... spawning more and more depending on the systems ship losses?
but again, as it stands now... lowsec populations are way way too low and pushing the penalties of ganking in higher sec won't push the carebears into lowsec... it'll only push the pvpers out of highsec.
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SPIONKOP
Caldari Macabre Votum Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2008.08.07 23:34:00 -
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Oh Joy.
About bloody time this was done.
For those about to leave the game cos of this can I have your stuff, it may have been mine once upon a time.
--------------------------------------------- Space For Rent.
100mil ISK/Week.
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Ahzara Zhin
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Posted - 2008.08.08 00:05:00 -
[414]
Yay! Jarheads are leaving! WOOT!
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AngelusK
Minmatar Lost Connection
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Posted - 2008.08.08 00:05:00 -
[415]
Originally by: Scout R This game get nearer and nearer to being macro-miners online every day
Fix'd. As of this "upgrade", the only winners in Eve are those cheating the system.
CCP, if you're gonna decry 'cheating' as unfair on your greater player base, *PLEASE* stop implementing changes that only pander to and support those who are cheating.
Ah feck it, destroyers are cheap...
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Heikki
Gallente Wreckless Abandon Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2008.08.08 01:09:00 -
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Removing insurance (increasing cost to kill someone in highsec) and increasing sec penalty sounds all fair...but reducing the Concord arrival time sounds a bit scary.
Almost like CCP didn't want players chance to kill everyone they want (even if that required high cost).
-Lasse deep in 0.0
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Garat Mant
Minmatar Moons of Pluto
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Posted - 2008.08.08 02:21:00 -
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CCP Taera, a lot of people here make a valid point: You're removing our last weapon against macro miners.
Please change the rules in this way: NPC corps' members can not fly Barges or Hulks. These complex and large mining ships can only be supported by true player corporations.
That way the Macros have to form a corp to mine their ice, and thus can be wardec'd.
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DaemonBarber
Sesquipedalianites Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.08.08 03:35:00 -
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Too lazy to read the whole thread (though for some reason, I expect the devs to), so this may have been posted...
Can you differentiate between concord responses resulting from action against an NPC, and one against another player? Can you still payout for the NPC actions (the 'oops, I just attacked the stargate'), but not for the players (or both - ie, gate THEN player)?
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STUPIDandUGLY
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Posted - 2008.08.08 04:21:00 -
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First: suicide gankers, low-sec and mining pirates, mission raiders.....just another way of saying not good enough for nullsec, and someone who is bored with hisec noobs running around blabbering in local about almost losing a rifter to a level 2 NPC. Get a freaking life! Well, everyone except goonswarm punks. They're just worthless wastes of oxygen and should all be shoved out the nearest airlock.
To quote Kurt Vonnegut, "The Universe is a big place. Perhaps the biggest." Get your stupid, whiney, arses into a militia where you can whine all day in local about getting pwned by someone with a +5 sec rating. Or, actually take the plunge. Go to null/losec and compete with someone who can fight back. It's pretty easy logging each night knowing you've got enough skills to obliterate a Retriever within 15 seconds. And that's all you're going to do. And nobody's going to stop you. Not even ConCoRd. So stop sitting outside a 1.0 station with four jetcans, creating lag, waiting for a noob to pop one so you can do the same to them. I can only imagine that highsec station camping has got to be almost as fun as camping the local star waiting for people to go afk.
There's a reason for the term "high" security. Not just the recreational definition. Let me get this straight; those people who commit crimes get paid to do so?!? WTF? Does that mean I can rob a 7-Eleven and when the cops trash my car (with me still in it trying to escape at high velocity) my insurance company gives me full compensation? And I only get to stay in jail overnight? And if I put in 2.5 hours of community service within the next year, then my arrest and incarceration is completely expunged?!? Sign me up for that reality. BTW, for all the goons out there, expunged means like it never happened (wikipedia.org/wiki/Expungement) and incarceration means to be in jail (wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration).
Roses are red, violets are blue. I'm schizophrenic and so is this alt :P
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MongWen
Farmer Killers United Corporations Against Macros
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Posted - 2008.08.08 04:26:00 -
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Official Comment form UCAM: The changes that are outlined in the devblog leads us to think this is a nerf to us (UCAM as a whole) and god forbid a Boost patch for all farmers and macros hideing in a npc corp. And it will only serv as a safe haven for game breakers (aka isk farmers)...
And it leads me to 1 question (that i know will not be answered anyways): Why are CCP turning EvE into a "Hello Kitty Online In Space" hybrid game?
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