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Fangedterror
Caldari Maximum Yarrage
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Posted - 2008.08.06 16:08:00 -
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Hey,
Im rather new to the eve-online market fourms. I was just introduced yesterday when my corp and I crashed a scam IPO. Linkage
I have always wanted to start a moon reacting pos much like this guy :D but never really had the funds to start (most of my income goes to ships and mods, being a pvper/pirate in all)
I donno if my backround makes me "risky" for investors.
How would I gain trust for an operation like this? As I understand The eve-online market discussion is a rather tight group :)
So please let me know :) Fangedterror
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Salvo Brunel
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Posted - 2008.08.06 16:24:00 -
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Your post seems good natured, so i'll be blunt rather than rude.
You first need to show MD the respect of reading the forum. There are currently 3 threads on the first page dealing directly with this issue.
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Fangedterror
Caldari Maximum Yarrage
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Posted - 2008.08.06 16:30:00 -
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I read all over these fourms in the past 24 hours that people only invest in some one who has been posting on these froums for around 1-3 months at the min. so i thougth i would start :D
If i start small like only ask for 500-900 million would i be more likey to gain the trust of investors?
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Raylyn Yu
Minmatar University of Hard Knocks Lords of the Damned
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Posted - 2008.08.06 16:48:00 -
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Edited by: Raylyn Yu on 06/08/2008 16:49:01 1) Setup a POS and prove that you're capable of maintaining it for a month 2) Stay active on the MD Forums in the meantime, be constructive with your posts 3) Use Hexxx's IPO Template as a guide 4) Ask for a reasonable amount of ISK and be able to justify it. 5) Offer a high return 6) Offer collateral (50%, maybe) 7) Get an audit
If you're legitimately interested and not looking to scam then I don't see you getting turned down with the above ---------------------------- Beep boop I'm a robot |
Fangedterror
Caldari Maximum Yarrage
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Posted - 2008.08.06 17:03:00 -
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I dont see any problem with that. I will see about getting a large caldari tower and keep active on the fourms.
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TheG2
Gallente Dirty Rotten Scoundrels
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Posted - 2008.08.06 17:36:00 -
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Edited by: TheG2 on 06/08/2008 17:36:22 As someones who dealt with you in the past, I'm pretty sure any IPO by you would be a laughable scam.
You can't even honor 1v1 PVP fights, much less other peoples isk responsibly.
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YouGotRipped
Ewigkeit
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Posted - 2008.08.06 17:38:00 -
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1) Intelligent posting 2) Sucking up to the respectable members of the forum, backing up their statements even when they are wrong. 3) Start with a small bond first to gain minimal trust. 4) Launch IPO, pay 2 months of divs 5) Expand 6) Scam
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Raylyn Yu
Minmatar University of Hard Knocks Lords of the Damned
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Posted - 2008.08.06 17:50:00 -
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Originally by: YouGotRipped 1) Intelligent posting 2) Sucking up to the respectable members of the forum, backing up their statements even when they are wrong. 3) Start with a small bond first to gain minimal trust. 4) Launch IPO, pay 2 months of divs 5) Expand 6) Scam
There's nothing I can say to dispute that. With people expecting a minimum level of trust/competence all you have to do is reach that minimum then abuse it ---------------------------- Beep boop I'm a robot |
MilowFV
Echo Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2008.08.06 18:00:00 -
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Yougotripped is basically right if you want to scam. He always has such warm and fuzzy post to inspire confidence in his IPO/Bond plans.
If scamming is what you want to do in the MD forum it takes a little bit more work, but it isnt that hard if you want to spend the time. Being a PVP dosnt make you risky per se, but having folks take the time and stop by and point out times you lied or cheat them in game dosnt help your chances either. Anyway starting small and adding content to the MD forum is a good start toward bigger IPO. Your small intial IPO should also be somewhat better then just borrowing 500 million and offering 20 percent for a week. That really dosnt prove much about you other then you were willing to give away some isk as you reached for a bigger price down the road.
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Lubimchik
Power Seed Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.08.06 18:00:00 -
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Like any good business man you have to be able to do the following
1.) Kiss ass 2.) Get your face known 3.) Do as much of it on your own before asking for money to finish it off 4.) High returns 5.) Kiss more ass
Though with POS reactions is not just all roses and dandies. I have done alot of reactions and well you have to find moons that are going to yield a profit.
The smallest reaction chain (for complexes) will require 2 large caladari towers.... Which you will be very luck if you can pull off. Most of the time you can do it with three though, as if you have any kind of luck you can find a moon that can do one of the simples on sight right there.
Another thing I would think about proving is that you have access to the moons to do a reaction and that you can keep the moons
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cosmoray
Cosmoray Construction
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Posted - 2008.08.06 18:29:00 -
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I wouldn't worry about it, there are plenty of people willing to invest in anything.
Even though your a pirate, and want to get into the riskiest business in Eve I am sure a few hundred million will get thrown at you.
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Fangedterror
Caldari Maximum Yarrage
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Posted - 2008.08.06 18:48:00 -
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Edited by: Fangedterror on 06/08/2008 18:50:31
Originally by: TheG2 Edited by: TheG2 on 06/08/2008 17:36:22 As someones who dealt with you in the past, I'm pretty sure any IPO by you would be a laughable scam.
You can't even honor 1v1 PVP fights, much less other peoples isk responsibly.
well its true that i dont usually honor ransoms but thats more of extortion not a business, the way i see it is when u ransom some one that person will NEVER fight you again cuz you already have proven that you can beat them, so why not maximumize profit and fun. Any real business that is sucessful will need investors so why screw them over for 500 million?
Case and point, right now i am incharge of selling and distrubing the poses we napped from that other scam IPO its about 1 billion in stuff. If i was not to be trusted with iskies i would have ran off with the tower never to be seen again
I will post names to contact after the isk is sent out. right now the towers are still in limbo on the market.
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TheG2
Gallente Dirty Rotten Scoundrels
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Posted - 2008.08.06 19:10:00 -
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Originally by: Fangedterror Edited by: Fangedterror on 06/08/2008 18:50:31
Originally by: TheG2 Edited by: TheG2 on 06/08/2008 17:36:22 As someones who dealt with you in the past, I'm pretty sure any IPO by you would be a laughable scam.
You can't even honor 1v1 PVP fights, much less other peoples isk responsibly.
well its true that i dont usually honor ransoms but thats more of extortion not a business, the way i see it is when u ransom some one that person will NEVER fight you again cuz you already have proven that you can beat them, so why not maximumize profit and fun. Any real business that is sucessful will need investors so why screw them over for 500 million?
Case and point, right now i am incharge of selling and distrubing the poses we napped from that other scam IPO its about 1 billion in stuff. If i was not to be trusted with iskies i would have ran off with the tower never to be seen again
I will post names to contact after the isk is sent out. right now the towers are still in limbo on the market.
Oh, when you put it that way, heres 5 billion
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Grandial
Qubicle Productions
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Posted - 2008.08.06 19:30:00 -
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Originally by: Fangedterror
Case and point, right now i am incharge of selling and distrubing the poses we napped from that other scam IPO its about 1 billion in stuff.
So, are you saying yours will also be a scam? ôTwo things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe.ö |
Fangedterror
Caldari Maximum Yarrage
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Posted - 2008.08.06 21:35:00 -
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Originally by: Grandial
Originally by: Fangedterror
Case and point, right now i am incharge of selling and distrubing the poses we napped from that other scam IPO its about 1 billion in stuff.
So, are you saying yours will also be a scam?
Not at all :D I just said that the one that I stole happened to be a scam.
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Kvander Godalming
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Posted - 2008.08.06 21:59:00 -
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In your case, the best idea to gain the trust of the MD forum:
(1) Take an elementary grammar/spelling class. (2) Delete your toon and start a new one. (3) Don't tell people you've got a reputation as a scammer.
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Lubimchik
Power Seed Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.08.06 23:04:00 -
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Returning the towers you stole to a rightful party to help recover the losses some took when investing in the moon mining business might also be an awesome way to kind of earn some brownie points here.
Though if you have the towers, really the rest isnt all that bad...
1.5bn isk should get you set up with a reaction chain to run for a month.
Just please make sure you do all of your planning ahead if you need some advice on moon mining pm me in game ill provide it!
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Treelox
Amarr Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party
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Posted - 2008.08.06 23:07:00 -
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Karma sucks..... --
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Mephie
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Posted - 2008.08.07 04:52:00 -
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Edited by: Mephie on 07/08/2008 04:54:07
Originally by: Fangedterror Edited by: Fangedterror on 06/08/2008 18:50:31
Originally by: TheG2 Edited by: TheG2 on 06/08/2008 17:36:22 As someones who dealt with you in the past, I'm pretty sure any IPO by you would be a laughable scam.
You can't even honor 1v1 PVP fights, much less other peoples isk responsibly.
well its true that i dont usually honor ransoms but thats more of extortion not a business, the way i see it is when u ransom some one that person will NEVER fight you again cuz you already have proven that you can beat them, so why not maximumize profit and fun. Any real business that is sucessful will need investors so why screw them over for 500 million?
Case and point, right now i am incharge of selling and distrubing the poses we napped from that other scam IPO its about 1 billion in stuff. If i was not to be trusted with iskies i would have ran off with the tower never to be seen again
I will post names to contact after the isk is sent out. right now the towers are still in limbo on the market.
If you're going to IPO, I would suggest a spellchecker. --Meph
(edit) bah, Kvander beat me to it (/edit)
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