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Mirak Nijoba
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Posted - 2008.08.11 18:12:00 -
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Edited by: Mirak Nijoba on 11/08/2008 18:12:59 Well every project has it's beginnings and then there's always the BETA Phase. We have finally stepped into that phase with our project Eve-Sectors. Johnathan Roark and Veran Nijoba are the starters of this project. Johnathan Roark being the head Developer. Veran Nijoba being the one with the Concept.
Mirak Nijoba is the one in charge of the Corporation that will be handing out Shares. 20% of them Being Available to Investors.
Please Copy the Link to see the General IDEA http://www.eve-corporate.net/evemap/ - Looks Better In-Game
Currently Looking at Adding. AGENT INFO COMMON RATS CORP/ALLY Control... POS @ Moons - Corporate Benefit. GATE CAMP UPDATES
This is our Simple Questionnaire for those who decide to Beta Test this... please if you could Eve-Mail them to Mirak Nijoba in-game we would be happy to reply to them as soon as we can and we will adress your concerns.
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What do you think of the Project EveSectors?
Would you consider paying for something like this?
Which price would be reasonable? 25M, 20M, 10M, 5M...
How Much would you pay for something like this?
What would make this more worth the money?
Would you help gather information for this Map?
Would you be willing to invest in this app?
I would like to thank you for taking your time to Beta Test this Project for me.
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Veran Nijoba
Amarr The Darkness of Light
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Posted - 2008.08.11 18:46:00 -
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Bump... ____________________________________ Gone to Rat
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JamnOne
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.08.11 18:56:00 -
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Uhm, first glance is, your missing something.
If you could please do me a favor and work on the About Us and Services part of the website so I know exactly what is your looking to do with it that would be greatly appreciated. It will also give me a better chance to evaluate it properly.
Sorry, when asked to test something I like to look at everything. It is the technician in me.
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Originally by: CCP Prism X Hah! Vengeance is sweet!
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Mirak Nijoba
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Posted - 2008.08.11 19:09:00 -
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We are only focused on the Eve-Sectors part of this beta... Eve-Corporation is something Johnathan Roark is working on seperatly.
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Winterblink
Body Count Inc. The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.08.11 19:13:00 -
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Originally by: JamnOne If you could please do me a favor and work on the About Us and Services part of the website so I know exactly what is your looking to do with it that would be greatly appreciated. It will also give me a better chance to evaluate it properly.
This. Even if it's not on the site, talk about it here.
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Mirak Nijoba
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Posted - 2008.08.11 19:17:00 -
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Originally by: Winterblink
Originally by: JamnOne If you could please do me a favor and work on the About Us and Services part of the website so I know exactly what is your looking to do with it that would be greatly appreciated. It will also give me a better chance to evaluate it properly.
This. Even if it's not on the site, talk about it here.
What do you mean?
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Veran Nijoba
Amarr The Darkness of Light
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Posted - 2008.08.11 20:07:00 -
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bump... are people checking it out at least? ____________________________________ Gone to Rat
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JamnOne
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.08.11 20:33:00 -
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Originally by: Veran Nijoba bump... are people checking it out at least?
I am sure they are checking it out but there is nothing really there. You are providing in a list format different regions that can be drilled down to the system level showing what stations and belts if any are there. This is something we can do with the map in game.
Please, fill us in on the concept. According to the OP you are in charge of that. Give us something to work with so we can give you a proper evaluation and let you know if you are headed in the right direction or not. ________________________
Originally by: CCP Wrangler So, it's all my fault.
Originally by: CCP Prism X Hah! Vengeance is sweet!
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Pesky LaRue
Minmatar L.O.S.T. Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.08.11 20:38:00 -
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Originally by: Mirak Nijoba
Originally by: Winterblink
Originally by: JamnOne If you could please do me a favor and work on the About Us and Services part of the website so I know exactly what is your looking to do with it that would be greatly appreciated. It will also give me a better chance to evaluate it properly.
This. Even if it's not on the site, talk about it here.
What do you mean?
i don't want to presume to explain their comments, but i think what they're getting at is that all you've said is: "this is eve-sectors, who wants to play with it?"
what's it for? what is it's purpose? what features will it have that'll make it worth paying for, over using something like Ombey's awesome free maps, or Serenity Steele's Tactical map?
so far, when i click on a sector it presents me a list of the systems, and if i drill down far enough it tells me how the names & number of planets/stations/belts per system and on first glance is completely useless (no offense) - but i'm giong to assume you're going to do something beyond that? am i going to be able to use it to plot routes, see sovereignty maps, etc, etc.
i know it's new, i know it's in beta, but if you want us to test it, you have to tell us what you plan on doing with it (rather than saying, "no, silly goose, this is eve-sectors, NOT eve-coporate") so that we can evaluate it properly
note: all comments meant to be constructive, not diss you or your project
This message came from the Minmatar Messiah, accept no imitations Pesky LaRue, Minmatar Messiah Bringing Salvation To Your System Soon! ++ PRAY FOR PESKY ++ |
Mirak Nijoba
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Posted - 2008.08.11 20:51:00 -
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Originally by: Pesky LaRue
Originally by: Mirak Nijoba
Originally by: Winterblink
Originally by: JamnOne If you could please do me a favor and work on the About Us and Services part of the website so I know exactly what is your looking to do with it that would be greatly appreciated. It will also give me a better chance to evaluate it properly.
This. Even if it's not on the site, talk about it here.
What do you mean?
i don't want to presume to explain their comments, but i think what they're getting at is that all you've said is: "this is eve-sectors, who wants to play with it?"
what's it for? what is it's purpose? what features will it have that'll make it worth paying for, over using something like Ombey's awesome free maps, or Serenity Steele's Tactical map?
so far, when i click on a sector it presents me a list of the systems, and if i drill down far enough it tells me how the names & number of planets/stations/belts per system and on first glance is completely useless (no offense) - but i'm giong to assume you're going to do something beyond that? am i going to be able to use it to plot routes, see sovereignty maps, etc, etc.
i know it's new, i know it's in beta, but if you want us to test it, you have to tell us what you plan on doing with it (rather than saying, "no, silly goose, this is eve-sectors, NOT eve-coporate") so that we can evaluate it properly
note: all comments meant to be constructive, not diss you or your project
Originally by: JamnOne Edited by: JamnOne on 11/08/2008 20:43:32
Originally by: Veran Nijoba bump... are people checking it out at least?
I am sure they are checking it out but there is nothing really there. You are providing in a list format different regions that can be drilled down to the system level showing what stations and belts if any are there. This is something we can do with the map in game.
Please, fill us in on the concept. According to the OP you are in charge of that. Give us something to work with so we can give you a proper evaluation and let you know if you are headed in the right direction or not.
What is Eve Sectors?
What is it's goal?
What are you hoping to accomplish with this project?
Why should I invest in this project?
If I had to give my opinion right now based on what I am seeing this is what I would say...
Stop. Put up an "under construction" page choose one region and add the stuff you are thinking about adding. Then come back and ask for us to check it out and give you input on it.
At least that way we can see what you are trying to do and give you a better opinion.
Yes, you are right it is boring and dull and useless right now..
My Goal for this is to get down to the system level and show you everything there is to know about that system..
Right now all we have is the System Name + Sec. It's Adjacent Systems and their Sec.
Belts, Planets, And Stations.
In the Near future we plan on getting... Station Information -(IG/OOG) Links. Agent Information - (IG/OOG) Links. Sovereignty I believe is comming soon as well. and what ever else possible we can provide to our clients who use this...
In the Not so near future we will have a Forum Set up for those who have created an acct, where we will be able to share information between the users. Requested information would be. If POS's are owned in High Sec where are they located. Corp HQ's / Base of Opperations in High Sec. and more...
I would also like any suggestions that would help make this site better sent to my in game Character...
Mirak Nijoba
P.S. I am also planning on investment opportunities.
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Case Kovaks
Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2008.08.11 23:02:00 -
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Originally by: Mirak Nijoba
GATE CAMP UPDATES
You can get a lot of the information you are talking about easily elsewhere. What would be interesting would be to see an updated and fairly accurate (you would need to get a lot of people interested and have wide exposure for this to work) report on gate camps and operational corps in systems.
Saying that you can get a lot of that information realtime using pods/ships killed/insystem so I'm not sure you have a niche yet.
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Tiirae
The New Era HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2008.08.11 23:27:00 -
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Yeah, as others have said, there's nothing there that isn't already available in-game or on existing websites.
I think 'value proposition' is the key concept here; currently, you don't have one. And to be perfectly honest, I'm not sure there is one. All map data has been heavily traversed and made public already; gatecamp info might be useful but I doubt you'll be able to provide more than what we can already glean from the ingame map.
Perhaps you need to get Veran Nijoba in here to describe what his concept is. Sorry if this seems harsh, I appreciate the effort anyway.
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Veran Nijoba
Amarr The Darkness of Light
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Posted - 2008.08.11 23:55:00 -
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Well You see my concept is to create an IN-Game map system that doesn't lag or completely control your screen. I know it's hard to justify charging for entry, but really what is 5-10M to be able to traverse the Universe in a matter of seconds..
We will be adding Station and Agent Info in our next few updates. Which will make it easier for people to see where there next best step would be to go...
The largest thing I was concerned about at the start was the Adjacent Sectors System. I thought people would be intrigued that they could simply check the In-Game Browser for the system their in (Adding Search Feature if Possible) for anything they might need to know in seconds instead of waiting for it all to load and clutter up the screen.
Mission Runners could use the Adjacent Systems to check the systems that they might be asked to go into without too much trouble. PVP-ers might be able to use this to quickly plot a few jumps ahead, or even see if theirs a station around their sector without too much trouble.
There are the live updates that would be great to have happen. This would take a lot of time and coordination for empire Low-Sec Space. Would have to have money to pay people also. Which is where the subscription costs come in. The subscription costs would help pay for those who scout for us, and gather other information.
There's a lot more that we could do but haven't reached yet. ____________________________________ Gone to Rat
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JamnOne
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.08.12 04:54:00 -
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Originally by: Veran Nijoba Well You see my concept is to create an IN-Game map system that doesn't lag or completely control your screen. I know it's hard to justify charging for entry, but really what is 5-10M to be able to traverse the Universe in a matter of seconds..
We will be adding Station and Agent Info in our next few updates. Which will make it easier for people to see where there next best step would be to go...
Veran, Thank you for the info it is greatly appreciated. Your idea is intriguing and I would like to see it go to the next level.
I would hold off charging until you start adding the station and agent information. Then you can justify it. Kind of like Microshaft lets those try Beta but if you really want the program when it is released then you will pay for it. ________________________
Originally by: CCP Wrangler So, it's all my fault.
Originally by: CCP Prism X Hah! Vengeance is sweet!
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Mirak Nijoba
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Posted - 2008.08.12 04:57:00 -
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Originally by: JamnOne
Originally by: Veran Nijoba Well You see my concept is to create an IN-Game map system that doesn't lag or completely control your screen. I know it's hard to justify charging for entry, but really what is 5-10M to be able to traverse the Universe in a matter of seconds..
We will be adding Station and Agent Info in our next few updates. Which will make it easier for people to see where there next best step would be to go...
Veran, Thank you for the info it is greatly appreciated. Your idea is intriguing and I would like to see it go to the next level.
I would hold off charging until you start adding the station and agent information. Then you can justify it. Kind of like Microshaft lets those try Beta but if you really want the program when it is released then you will pay for it.
Yea... I'll definetly hold off until it has more to add before charging... I think charging the same price with added forums might also be a good idea. :) Would help control the information flow and we can see who is who on the forums if it's set up just right. :D, not that I intend to be rude...
BTW all Characters with Nijoba after their name are likely mine. Such as Veran is me.
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Mortok Tristan
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Posted - 2008.08.12 06:11:00 -
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Hi veran,
As others have said most of this info is available ingame from grismar site, eve-agents.com etc...
You would need something new ppl havent seen before. The gate camping is a start but relies heavily on human intel.
Here are some suggestions: ( something the sites above dont do) Lets say i pick a system to mine, and i have high standing with a specific corp, how to i find out where its stations are? ( in relations to solar system i specify ), where is the nearest medical facility for that faction, show it on a map, whats the refine yield i would get from those stations ? etc...
another thing missing today is the ability to keep notes on stations/systems, or set labels ( manufacturing base, mining hq, resupply hq etc... ) just like the point of interest concept of googlemaps.
killboards have a recent activity section, which is very usefull, if you combine your idea's with a killboard, you can show where camps are, what ships are used etc..
There are alot of tools and sites out there, but they specialise on very specific tasks, noone is combining them... plenty of combinations possible.
Hopes this helps you a bit.
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Drak Nijoba
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Posted - 2008.08.12 19:21:00 -
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Right now I'm working on adding a Stations Information Page & Agents Information Page... I hope... Will look at Faction Information Page & Corp Information Page - Strictly NPC
Gate Camps Recent activity might be a good idea. A Public KillBoard for everyone who plays eve.
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