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Rufus Britton
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse The ENTITY.
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Posted - 2008.08.14 21:58:00 -
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The cross faction battleships are great especially the Nightmare but we're lacking 2 major battleship crosses that would also be great ships, Gallente/Amarr and Caldari/Minmatar.
I'm especially interested in the latter, I'm a caldari pilot it makes sense to crosstrain with minmatar as I can take advantage of my missile and shield skills but when I get the skills up there is no payoff with a cross faction battleship which is a real shame as I'd love to have a caldari/minmatar BS to aim for.
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Herschel Yamamoto
Bloodmoney Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.08.14 22:17:00 -
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Toss in another Amarr/Caldari one while you're at it, so that every faction gets 4.
I like this in principle, but the fluff really doesn't. Finding another 2-3 factions to give ships to is not easy with as few combat-oriented NPC factions as exist right now.
Also, I just want to see the two you listed getting +5% resists per level off the Am/Cal skill, and +7.5% rep per level off the Min/Gal skill. It's probably not sane, but it'd be funny. ------------------ Fix the forums! |
Scagga Laebetrovo
Ammatar Free Corps
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Posted - 2008.08.14 22:23:00 -
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Edited by: Scagga Laebetrovo on 14/08/2008 22:23:49 I hear that this is something that is in the works (Thukker, SOE, Ammatar, Intaki syndicate ships etc..)
In development old chap, however it would be helpful if you suggest a good idea of what they could be like :P (i.e. more than skillset required)
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Leandro Salazar
Aeon Industries
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Posted - 2008.08.15 07:38:00 -
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Edited by: Leandro Salazar on 15/08/2008 07:38:22 Those two are fairly simple, especially considering the also missing ship models:
Gallente/Amarr: Rogue Drone Dominix Caldari/Minmatar: Thukker Typhoon
On top of that, for the Tier3s we could get:
Khanid Abaddon Mordus Rokh Intaki Hyperion
And well, Minmatar lacks another sidekick faction... Now if only Ammatar were Minmatar based in their combat gear, not Amarr based, we could have an Ammatar Vargur... And if you are reading this, you have arrived at the signature without noticing...
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Holy Lowlander
Aurora Acclivitous Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2008.08.15 08:07:00 -
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Originally by: Leandro Salazar Edited by: Leandro Salazar on 15/08/2008 07:38:22 Those two are fairly simple, especially considering the also missing ship models:
Gallente/Amarr: Rogue Drone Dominix Caldari/Minmatar: Thukker Typhoon
On top of that, for the Tier3s we could get:
Khanid Abaddon Mordus Rokh Intaki Hyperion
And well, Minmatar lacks another sidekick faction... Now if only Ammatar were Minmatar based in their combat gear, not Amarr based, we could have an Ammatar Vargur...
mFh Khandid <3 missles no lasers love there . You would get an abbadon with 5% EM damage for cruises and torps + the 5 % resists . Activly making it the perfect level IV mission runner ?
Quote: woot I wants a toy arbitrator !!! :O
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.08.15 08:24:00 -
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Originally by: Holy Lowlander
Originally by: Leandro Salazar Edited by: Leandro Salazar on 15/08/2008 07:38:22 Those two are fairly simple, especially considering the also missing ship models:
Gallente/Amarr: Rogue Drone Dominix Caldari/Minmatar: Thukker Typhoon
On top of that, for the Tier3s we could get:
Khanid Abaddon Mordus Rokh Intaki Hyperion
And well, Minmatar lacks another sidekick faction... Now if only Ammatar were Minmatar based in their combat gear, not Amarr based, we could have an Ammatar Vargur...
mFh Khandid <3 missles no lasers love there . You would get an abbadon with 5% EM damage for cruises and torps + the 5 % resists . Activly making it the perfect level IV mission runner ?
meh my paladin can already hit out to 50km with multifrequency
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Drolus
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Posted - 2008.08.15 08:28:00 -
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HELL YES!
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Sylthi
Coreward Pan-Galactic
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Posted - 2008.08.15 09:18:00 -
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New ship idea are always fun, and never a bad idea imho.
As long as Zulupark doesn't get a hold on this and try to "pre-balance" them like the Black Ops disgrace.
Anywho.... support! *
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Leandro Salazar
Aeon Industries
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Posted - 2008.08.15 10:44:00 -
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Originally by: Holy Lowlander mFh Khandid <3 missles no lasers love there . You would get an abbadon with 5% EM damage for cruises and torps + the 5 % resists . Activly making it the perfect level IV mission runner ?
Well without missile velocity bonus it would only be useful in PvP or for ratting... Imho they should actually revamp all the empire faction ships so they get 3 bonuses like their pirate counterparts. Fleet Pest, Navy Mega and Navy Apoc definitely could use the help, CNR would have to get a minor thing as 3rd bonus to not make it overpowered.
And then the Khanid Abaddon could be a real missile spamming armortanker with damage bonus (not RoF to be different from Raven), armor resist bonus and missile velocity bonus. And if you are reading this, you have arrived at the signature without noticing...
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Haffrage
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams
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Posted - 2008.08.15 15:03:00 -
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Edited by: Haffrage on 15/08/2008 15:03:23 The faction BS bonus is +50% HP, check the stats. It makes them ideal for passive tanking, while the pirate ships/marauders might be better off active tanking.
Also, about the thukker phoon, thukker is already in the game as a T2 producer :P But yeah the rogue drones are the gallente/amarr faction, I have no idea about the caldari/minmatar faction though. It could easily be the misc mercenaries you see in missions.
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AndzX11
Caldari Siorai Iontach
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Posted - 2008.08.15 19:21:00 -
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/signed
It would be great to see some more faction ships.
Actually come to think of it whats up with Jove ships models in the data files? That region is inaccessible but exists and so do the jove ships. Would be nice to see those in game too. They could be limited to jove region, couldn't leave it or something.
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Xanja
2H Industries
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Posted - 2008.08.16 00:59:00 -
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Mistress Arrana
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Posted - 2008.08.16 01:25:00 -
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Edited by: Mistress Arrana on 16/08/2008 01:26:12 I'd absolutely love a Khanid Abaddon or Apoc.
I'd say 7 launchers, 5% torp rof bonuses and a 5% resistance per level.
8 high, 5 mid, 6 low, 75 mb drone bandwidth. It'd be a crazy good angel missioner.
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Ankhesentapemkah
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Posted - 2008.08.16 16:07:00 -
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Edited by: Ankhesentapemkah on 16/08/2008 16:08:08 All for it. There are many underused factions, and I think some cross-empire factions would be an excellent addition to Eve in general. No more Caldari/Amarr and Gallente/Minmatar camps, but more greyscale is good.
Resulting ships would be excellent for the roleplayers as well as the players that love exotic ships.
And yes for Intaki and SoE ships! ---
Thanks for all that supported me. Let me know if there's anything I can do for you.
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Venkul Mul
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Posted - 2008.08.16 19:03:00 -
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If we go there, it is possible to boost a little the navy ships, especially cruisers and frigates?
And some faction battlecruiser and destroyer would be awesome.
Originally by: Gamesguy
the suicide ganking is merely an isk farming activity.
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2008.08.16 20:39:00 -
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As we have a new, similar thread about this matter, I'll just paste my post from the other one here and add support, too.
Originally by: Abrazzar
Ulfhedinn (Minmatar/Caldari) - Close combat and speed, Berserkers in space, using missiles may be a bit OP though, granted.
The Seekers of the Void (Amarr/Gallente) - Drones and toughness, religious fanatics seeking ascencion through technology.
-------- Ideas for: Mining
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Karentaki
Fighting While Intoxicated
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Posted - 2008.08.16 21:33:00 -
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YARRRRR ============= RE: The suicide nerf
Originally by: agent apple I believe I can safely speak for many of us when I say,
Dear Devs, Go Back to WOW
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Amarr Holymight
Bat Country Vanguard.
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Posted - 2008.08.17 01:43:00 -
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Sweet I suggested this a lot when I first started playing, Amarr/Gallente nearly have the same skill backgrounds alos minmatar/caldari makes sense to me. So yeh totally in support.
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Lance Fighter
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Posted - 2008.08.17 04:54:00 -
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Herschel Yamamoto
Bloodmoney Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.08.17 05:13:00 -
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Originally by: Venkul Mul If we go there, it is possible to boost a little the navy ships, especially cruisers and frigates?
And some faction battlecruiser and destroyer would be awesome.
Why do the navy ships need a boost? They get +50% HP flat, the same two bonuses as everything else, and an extra slot of some variety as well. Plus, they only require one race's skills to fly, not two.
I wouldn't object to faction BCs though. Destroyers might be too narrow, but BCs are good, meaty ships. ------------------ Fix the forums! |
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Leandro Salazar
Aeon Industries
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Posted - 2008.08.17 08:16:00 -
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Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto
Originally by: Venkul Mul If we go there, it is possible to boost a little the navy ships, especially cruisers and frigates?
And some faction battlecruiser and destroyer would be awesome.
Why do the navy ships need a boost? They get +50% HP flat, the same two bonuses as everything else, and an extra slot of some variety as well. Plus, they only require one race's skills to fly, not two.
You say that as if the pirate faction ships did not get a HP boost too. In the case of the Rattlesnake's shields it is even an almost 100% bonus. The empire factions ships DO effectively have one less bonus. First nail in their coffin was the addition of rigs (which reduced the advantage the additional slot gives on all but the CNR). Then the addition of Marauders has further devalued them. So yes, I do believe they need a boost in the form of a 3rd bonus. For all I care they could also increase the LP cost by 50% to reflect that boost, I just want to see them as something special again. And if you are reading this, you have arrived at the signature without noticing...
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Malcanis
We are Legend eXceed.
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Posted - 2008.08.17 13:33:00 -
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Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto
Originally by: Venkul Mul If we go there, it is possible to boost a little the navy ships, especially cruisers and frigates?
And some faction battlecruiser and destroyer would be awesome.
Why do the navy ships need a boost? They get +50% HP flat, the same two bonuses as everything else, and an extra slot of some variety as well. Plus, they only require one race's skills to fly, not two.
I wouldn't object to faction BCs though. Destroyers might be too narrow, but BCs are good, meaty ships.
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eliminator2
You're Doing It Wrong
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Posted - 2008.08.17 14:42:00 -
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i agree we need more faction ships and maybe boost ships like navy megathron and others to be more better than maybe a kronos or just match it or at least better than hyperions atm u pay 500 mill for a faction navy mega and it can die easyly to a kronos or hyperion
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Marcus Gideon
Excessive Force
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Posted - 2008.08.17 15:50:00 -
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Gallente/Amarr = Lasers AND Drones... No Ammo to lug about!
--- Don't take my ranting personally. I may just be arguing the topic, unless you're saying something stupid, and then I mean every word. "Players don't want Variety. They want THE BEST" |
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