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Derek Shmawesome
We Know Derek Derek Knows Us
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Posted - 2008.08.15 13:03:00 -
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If you train the FOTM you gotta keep in mind that it possibly gets nerfed sometime soon. That's not exactly rocket science.
So if you don't want to skill stuff that eventually gets nerfed to uselessness in your perception you just should refrain from starting to skill it in the first place.
This whine sounds like Britney Spears complaining about all the publicity...
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Car Wars
Shinra
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Posted - 2008.08.15 13:04:00 -
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Originally by: marakor Edited by: marakor on 15/08/2008 11:33:14
Originally by: rValdez5987 You trained for fotm, and you got nerfed. stop crying.
Those of us who are smarter, train for pretty much everything so when nerf bat swings, we just fly other ships or fit our ships a different way and keep killing you.
rValdez5987
Kills: 359
Why are your total kills less than a lot of pvpers monthly kills if your such a knowledgeable, smarter, broadly trained, multi tasking and expert pvper?.
And omg:
rValdez5987
Losses: 100
3.5 to 1 k/d lol leeeroying is not a skill buddy.
Look like the stats from someone who does small scale skilled pvp and NOT blobfest F1 F2 F3 etc.
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marakor
Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers
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Posted - 2008.08.15 13:08:00 -
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Edited by: marakor on 15/08/2008 13:10:25
Originally by: Jaketh Ivanes
Originally by: marakor
Originally by: rValdez5987 You trained for fotm, and you got nerfed. stop crying.
Those of us who are smarter, train for pretty much everything so when nerf bat swings, we just fly other ships or fit our ships a different way and keep killing you.
rValdez5987
Kills: 359
Why are your total kills less than a lot of pvpers monthly kills if your such a knowledgeable, smarter, broadly trained, multi tasking and expert pvper?.
And omg:
rValdez5987
Losses: 100
3.5 to 1 k/d lol leeeroying is not a skill buddy.
I would guess because he actually takes on a challenge and not only the certain kills. Kill/loss ratio are just a dumb statistic with not perspective on how said losses/kills were obtained.
And no, you won't find me on any killboards.
Jaketh Ivanes Kills: 37 Losses: 13
http://www.battleclinic.com/eve_online/pk/view/player-Jaketh+Ivanes-kills.html
Battle clinic gets its figures from most of eves KB's so if you have lost or killed ships and they were posted you will have figures on it, although its not 100% accurate it does give a good idea if somebody is a active pvper or not.
And it also shows what ships were in the engagement to give you a good idea on what happened ie: outnumbered or not, along with fittngs.
Originally by: Car Wars
Look like the stats from someone who does small scale skilled pvp and NOT blobfest F1 F2 F3 etc.
Id say they look like the MONTHLY stats (kills anyway) from somebody who does small scale pvp although the losses are way to high tbh.
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AshtarDJ
Filthy Scum
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Posted - 2008.08.15 13:09:00 -
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Originally by: Andnowthenews Sanctimonious preaching from somebody who has never varied his style of pvp ever (due to the fact low sec pvp is mostly just killing noobs).
An in depth commentary on your obvious lack of experience and qualifications.
...comming from a guy that says "This patch will ruin roaming gangs forever" and "If you can't nano a HAC it is completelly useless" proving his lack of the smallest clue about this game's pvp capabilities and lack of imagination about this game's wide variety of ship setups.
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AshtarDJ
Filthy Scum
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Posted - 2008.08.15 13:12:00 -
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Originally by: AshtarDJ Look... let's end this now: If I ever popped any of your "secret" 3-4 year old, uber skilled chars in a hauler in one of my camps... I am sorry. I really am. I apologize for my acts of agression against you and hope that the losses weren't too bad. I hope that you can put that behind you and from now on can be a happier boy about your Eve life.
...I really really am sorry.
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Andnowthenews
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.08.15 13:13:00 -
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Originally by: AshtarDJ
Originally by: Andnowthenews Sanctimonious preaching from somebody who has never varied his style of pvp ever (due to the fact low sec pvp is mostly just killing noobs).
An in depth commentary on your obvious lack of experience and qualifications.
...comming from a guy that says "This patch will ruin a great form roaming gang pvp" and "If you can't nano a HAC it is completely useless compared to a easily insurable BC and other less costly ships".
Fixed and if you disagree with me id love to see your proof.
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Andnowthenews
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.08.15 13:15:00 -
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Originally by: AshtarDJ
Originally by: AshtarDJ Look... let's end this now: If I ever popped any of your "secret" 3-4 year old, uber skilled chars in a hauler in one of my camps... I am sorry. I really am. I apologize for my acts of agression against you and hope that the losses weren't too bad. I hope that you can put that behind you and from now on can be a happier boy about your Eve life.
...I really really am sorry.
Show me the KM where i got popped by a nub like you.
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AshtarDJ
Filthy Scum
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Posted - 2008.08.15 13:18:00 -
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Edited by: AshtarDJ on 15/08/2008 13:21:11
Originally by: Andnowthenews Show me the KM where i got popped by a nub like you.
That's probably the reason why you keep hiding yourself behind an alt... ;)
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AshtarDJ
Filthy Scum
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Posted - 2008.08.15 13:21:00 -
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Originally by: Andnowthenews Fixed and if you disagree with me id love to see your proof.
You are the one making the assumptions, so you are the one that needs proof.
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Andnowthenews
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.08.15 13:22:00 -
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Originally by: AshtarDJ
Originally by: Andnowthenews Show me the KM where i got popped by a nub like you.
That's probably the reason why you keep hiding yourself behind and alt... ;)
So your convinced that im a bitter victim and that its not that your just a fool who posts moronic drivel about things you know nothing about?.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
I hope this helps.
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AshtarDJ
Filthy Scum
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Posted - 2008.08.15 13:25:00 -
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Originally by: Andnowthenews http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
I hope this helps.
I bet you have that link as a "favorite" on your browser... as it must happen a lot with you.
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Andnowthenews
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.08.15 13:27:00 -
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Originally by: AshtarDJ
Originally by: Andnowthenews http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
I hope this helps.
I bet you have that link as a "favorite" on your browser... as it must happen a lot with you.
So "no u" is your best sunday punch come back?.
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AshtarDJ
Filthy Scum
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Posted - 2008.08.15 13:30:00 -
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Originally by: Andnowthenews "This patch will ruin a great form roaming gang pvp" and "If you can't nano a HAC it is completely useless compared to a easily insurable BC and other less costly ships".
Fixed and if you disagree with me id love to see your proof.
Here's a small quote from CCP Casqade (on another thread) that might help you a bit:
"Speculating randomly doesn't really give much. However if you have ideas or input on what future things should be tweaked; Like I said earlier, feel free to use the Features and Ideas discussion forum.
Speculations are in general a bad thing, well backed up ideas and feedback are something we welcome."
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Andnowthenews
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.08.15 13:35:00 -
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Originally by: AshtarDJ
Originally by: Andnowthenews "This patch will ruin a great form roaming gang pvp" and "If you can't nano a HAC it is completely useless compared to a easily insurable BC and other less costly ships".
Fixed and if you disagree with me id love to see your proof.
Here's a small quote from CCP Casqade (on another thread) that might help you a bit:
"Speculating randomly doesn't really give much. However if you have ideas or input on what future things should be tweaked; Like I said earlier, feel free to use the Features and Ideas discussion forum.
Speculations are in general a bad thing, well backed up ideas and feedback are something we welcome."
Does spending over a week on the test server building gangs and testing various fits and ships in real time gang vs gang combat and sending the results by eve mail and posting them on the appropriate forums and individuals count?.
I do not remember seeing you in any of those gangs btw.
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AshtarDJ
Filthy Scum
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Posted - 2008.08.15 13:44:00 -
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Originally by: Andnowthenews Does spending over a week on the test server building gangs and testing various fits and ships in real time gang vs gang combat and sending the results by eve mail and posting them on the appropriate forums and individuals count?.
I do not remember seeing you in any of those gangs btw.
As I told you on the feedback thread: Your few posts with feedback on the changes were good (a bit biased, but still valid), but as soon as you start trolling the pro-nerf ppl with your ridiculous assumptions and speculations, you're just making a fool of yourself.
And no, you haven't seen me on those gangs. Mostly because I usually do my tests with players that are more then 9 months old and know how to vary their gameplay a tad. You would be surprised with the results you can have then...
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Andnowthenews
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.08.15 13:48:00 -
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Edited by: Andnowthenews on 15/08/2008 13:50:11
Originally by: Andnowthenews Does spending over a week on the test server building gangs and testing various fits and ships in real time gang vs gang combat and sending the results by eve mail and posting them on the appropriate forums and individuals count?.
I do not remember seeing you in any of those gangs btw.
Originally by: AshtarDJ As I told you on the feedback thread: Your few posts with feedback on the changes were good (a bit biased, but still valid), but as soon as you start trolling the pro-nerf ppl with your ridiculous assumptions and speculations, you're just making a fool of yourself.
Look whos talking.
Originally by: AshtarDJ And no, you haven't seen me on those gangs. Mostly because I usually do my tests with players that are more then 9 months old and know how to vary their gameplay a tad. You would be surprised with the results you can have then...
Yea i hear you managed to kill a battle cruiser with a few eaf's a couple of af's and a ceptor or two fitted with afterburners.....so this proves the nerf will effect nothing but the thousands of ppl who fly around in 30,000kms battleships breaking the game to get kills.
2003 player btw.
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AshtarDJ
Filthy Scum
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Posted - 2008.08.15 13:50:00 -
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Originally by: Andnowthenews 2003 player btw.
Lol... yeah right. E-bay?
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Andnowthenews
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.08.15 13:52:00 -
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Edited by: Andnowthenews on 15/08/2008 13:53:28
Originally by: AshtarDJ
Originally by: Andnowthenews 2003 player btw.
Lol... yeah right. E-bay?
Nope i can trace my game play back all the way with friends and enemies alike. Its quite a varied history unlike ppl who spent all their time in low sec.....
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AshtarDJ
Filthy Scum
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Posted - 2008.08.15 14:04:00 -
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Originally by: Andnowthenews Nope i can trace my game play back all the way with friends and enemies alike. Its quite a varied history unlike ppl who spent all their time in low sec.....
You have some serious problems not knowing the difference between facts and assumptions. Try sticking to the facts for a change...
Facts: 1. Your char is only 9 months old. 2. You know absolutelly nothing about how I've spent my online time.
I know that kids are encouraged to use their imagination, but you will have to let go of it before you grow up dude.
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Andnowthenews
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.08.15 14:09:00 -
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Edited by: Andnowthenews on 15/08/2008 14:10:42
Originally by: AshtarDJ
Originally by: Andnowthenews Nope i can trace my game play back all the way with friends and enemies alike. Its quite a varied history unlike ppl who spent all their time in low sec.....
You have some serious problems not knowing the difference between facts and assumptions. Try sticking to the facts for a change...
Facts: 1. Your char is only 9 months old. 2. You know absolutelly nothing about how I've spent my online time.
I know that kids are encouraged to use their imagination, but you will have to let go of it before you grow up dude.
REAL FACTS
1. My/this alt is 9 months old. 2. Your kills on battle clinic show not only where you killed but what type and how many ships were involved in the engagement, need i really go on as i have yet to find a 0.0 kill although there maybe a couple i suppose.
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AshtarDJ
Filthy Scum
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Posted - 2008.08.15 14:11:00 -
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Originally by: Andnowthenews 1. My alt is 9 months old. 2. Your kills on battle clinic show not only where you killed but what type and how many ships were involved in the engagement, need i really go on as i have yet to find a 0.0 kill.
1. Ehhem... Whatever makes you sleep at night. 2. The only thing worse then ppl yelling for nerfs after trying setups on EFT are the ppl that think they can track someone's PvP history from battleclinic. Any 2003 player would know that fact ;)
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Andnowthenews
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.08.15 14:17:00 -
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Originally by: AshtarDJ
The only thing worse then ppl yelling for nerfs after trying setups on EFT are the ppl that think they can track someone's PvP history from battleclinic. Any 2003 player would know that fact ;)
I would be happy to revise my facts and give a full apology to you...right after you show me exactly how wrong battle clinic is....
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Exlegion
New Light Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.15 14:20:00 -
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Didn't read responses so don't know if it's been said. But:
No. This would just encourage players to follow flavor of the months. The game needs balance and variety, not FOTMs.
One of us equals many of us. Disrespect one of us, you'll see plenty of us. - Gang Starr |
AshtarDJ
Filthy Scum
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Posted - 2008.08.15 14:24:00 -
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Originally by: Andnowthenews I would be happy to revise my facts and give a full apology to you...right after you show me exactly how wrong battle clinic is....
I give you 2 simple reasons: 1. Many corps/alliances do not have their KBs linked to battleclinic. 2. Many corps/alliances (such as fscums) have their KB password protected making it impossible for any type of unwanted automatic likage.
It has been a blast talking to you today, but unfortunatelly I'll have to leave the computer now. If you want to post the apology here I'll be back to check it next week, otherwise you can just mail it to me in game. Don't worry, you can use your alt for it if you want to.
GL with your trolling... and "fly safe" ;)
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marakor
Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers
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Posted - 2008.08.15 14:27:00 -
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Originally by: Exlegion The game needs balance and variety.
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Etien Aldragoran
DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.08.15 14:28:00 -
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No. You pay for the game as is with no guarantee for the future.
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CCP Navigator
C C P
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Posted - 2008.08.15 14:38:00 -
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Thread cleaned and multiple posts deleted.
The forums are not a place for two players to constantly smack each other. Please keep it in game if you wish to have a tete-a-tete and use a private convo or EVE Mail.
Navigator Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online Email / Netfang
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Exlegion
New Light Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.15 14:46:00 -
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Originally by: marakor Edited by: marakor on 15/08/2008 14:38:28
Originally by: Exlegion The game needs balance and variety.
Im pretty sure that your asking for a contradiction tbh bud.
In my humble opinion, I think CCP for the most part does a great job in accomplishing both, variety and balance. The game isn't perfect. But that's exactly why these nerfs are sometimes needed.
One of us equals many of us. Disrespect one of us, you'll see plenty of us. - Gang Starr |
marakor
Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers
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Posted - 2008.08.15 14:53:00 -
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Edited by: marakor on 15/08/2008 14:54:45
Originally by: Exlegion
Originally by: Exlegion The game needs balance and variety.
Im pretty sure that your asking for a contradiction tbh bud.
In my humble opinion, I think CCP for the most part does a great job in accomplishing both, variety and balance. The game isn't perfect. But that's exactly why these nerfs are sometimes needed.
Extreme fitting options are part of a bigger balance that is part of team fighting.
Say 10 ships all pimped out to the max for their strengths, working together is the very definition of variety and balance.
Screwing over extreme fits in attempts to "balance" those ships on a "individual" level is absurd and will make many ships obsolete as this speed nerf is doing.
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Trojanman190
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.08.15 15:25:00 -
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I think its finei f racial skills are the only ones allowed to be allocated.
I'd pay $15 - $20 to switch away from matari. Means I can start having fun now as opposed to 3 months from now when the skills are done.
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