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New Prophet
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.08.28 21:36:00 -
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u complain about your broken ships what about the gallente EOS. The Eos is the most umbalanced and worthless ship in the game its can be killed by all other command ships plus it could be defeated most tech 2 bc. whens the last time anyone has seen one anywhere much less pvp.
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Isaac Starstriker
Amarr Sisterhood of Galactic Sirens
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Posted - 2008.08.28 21:52:00 -
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Edited by: Isaac Starstriker on 28/08/2008 21:53:54 Edited by: Isaac Starstriker on 28/08/2008 21:53:40 Please shut up. Shut up. Shut up.
"Retribution can't solo-PVP whaaa whaaa whaa" Funny, I was under the impression PVP isn't for soloing........
Vengeance is fine. Omen is fine. L2Fit Maller is fine. Could use tweaks, but what's new. Augoror is REALLY fine. A friend of mine uses that a heck of a lot in missions. I absolutely love having unlimited cap. Curse is FINE. Even after nerf it will be FINE. L2P Pilgrim could use some tweaks, but is still FINE. Sentinel is FINE. I play with this a lot in fleets. Prophecy is FINE. Quite a few ppl flew those before they moved to AS/BS. (They wanted to shoot big lasers, what can I say) L2P.
Crystals are a current programming problem. Its being looked at by CCP, but could be a while. I can't blame em, its a difficult problem.
Quit whining about current "broken" ships. Learn to adapt OR DIE. (In-game) That's how it goes. Can't live with that? Go back to World of Warcraft. Sheesh. Quit bumping this idiot.
--Isaac
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AstroPhobic
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.08.28 23:08:00 -
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Originally by: AstroPhobic How about you stop bumping a stupid thread? The balancing team(or guy, or trained ape..) has more pressing issues than boosting a nearly-overpowered race.
Cough lyria cough
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Boz Well
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.08.28 23:34:00 -
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Quote: Quit whining about current "broken" ships. Learn to adapt OR DIE. (In-game) That's how it goes. Can't live with that? Go back to World of Warcraft. Sheesh. Quit bumping this idiot.
People seriously need to learn some new smack. This is such a tired line, and I've only read it about, oh, 10000 times on EVE forums before. Get some new smack, or just don't smack, but whatever you do, don't post tired, overused smack. Give me something original and entertaining to read.
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Aleus Stygian
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Posted - 2008.08.29 00:06:00 -
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Curse and Pilgrim both need more cap. And the Pilgrim needs 200 armor back. Seriously, what the f*ck? Check some threads and videos and loadouts on Battleclinic if you don't believe me.
And then again, I argue that in addition to marginally increased stats for fitting and tank purposes -all- Recon ships need another slot. Strategically placed, of course. High slot in the case of Pilgrims/Curses, high in the case of Falcon/Rook, Low for the Arazu/Lachesis, etc...
Really, the issue that I'm most personally concerned with is the ineffectualness of Force Recon ships. I like them, but aside from just one specific damn thing, or in the case of the Pilgrim nothing, they just don't do anything well or have a niche. Well, not an honorable one, I mean. One that involves actually taking out support ships or pesky BCs or breaking DPS, rather than just preying on lonesome noobs venturing into lowsec with T1 cruisers and mining ships...
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Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.08.29 07:02:00 -
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Originally by: Aleus Stygian Curse and Pilgrim both need more cap. And the Pilgrim needs 200 armor back. Seriously, what the f*ck? Check some threads and videos and loadouts on Battleclinic if you don't believe me.
And then again, I argue that in addition to marginally increased stats for fitting and tank purposes -all- Recon ships need another slot. Strategically placed, of course. High slot in the case of Pilgrims/Curses, high in the case of Falcon/Rook, Low for the Arazu/Lachesis, etc...
Really, the issue that I'm most personally concerned with is the ineffectualness of Force Recon ships. I like them, but aside from just one specific damn thing, or in the case of the Pilgrim nothing, they just don't do anything well or have a niche. Well, not an honorable one, I mean. One that involves actually taking out support ships or pesky BCs or breaking DPS, rather than just preying on lonesome noobs venturing into lowsec with T1 cruisers and mining ships...
This. ----------------------------------------- [Video] Support Barrage |
Don Zektrade
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Posted - 2008.08.29 08:26:00 -
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* All ships with 1 mid are /cry. * Could get some other bonus that -laser cap usage on all ships. (that should be passive amarr thing) * Amarr need kin or expl crystals (with enough drawbacks to be usable mostly just for PVE!) or EM/Therm resist dampener(working on rats only). (or 1 missle t1 BC/BS sized ship).
Did some lvl4 kin-expl mishs in my Apoc... /cry wanted to go back and fit rails/blasters/arty... whatever. (no t2 pulse yet... t1 8x mega modulated beams, 2x hs2)
...should be pirate.
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Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.08.30 09:11:00 -
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Fix retribution plx. ----------------------------------------- [Video] Support Barrage |
Lubomir Penev
interimo
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Posted - 2008.08.30 09:34:00 -
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Edited by: Lubomir Penev on 30/08/2008 09:35:26
Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton
arbitrator is fantastic! augoror on the other hand wft do I do with that
You follow a Raven in a mission. Perma running XL booster with 4 BCS is nice.
Very niche but useful . In PvP you could transfer cap to your exeqrors and ospreys -- I'm done whining about AFs, it looks like they are making them right \o/ |
Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.09.01 21:37:00 -
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Well aug is not a biggy really, Id still like to see alot of the other fixes. Many broken ships on that list. |
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Highfaust
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Posted - 2008.09.01 21:41:00 -
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Theres a huge debate on Amarr issues. Its quite interesting.
Linkage |
AstroPhobic
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.09.01 21:41:00 -
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Originally by: Lyria Skydancer Well aug is not a biggy really, Id still like to see alot of the other fixes. Many broken ships on that list.
Stop bumping this thread already. Let it die. |
Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.09.01 21:44:00 -
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Edited by: Lyria Skydancer on 01/09/2008 21:44:09
Originally by: AstroPhobic
Originally by: Lyria Skydancer Well aug is not a biggy really, Id still like to see alot of the other fixes. Many broken ships on that list.
Stop bumping this thread already. Let it die.
But we need to fix our ships. It is sadface to not be able to enjoy all ships when you have trained a race of your liking.
It also says [megathread], must mean alot of replies methinks. |
AstroPhobic
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.09.01 21:46:00 -
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Originally by: Lyria Skydancer
But we need to fix our ships. It is sadface to not be able to enjoy all ships when you have trained a race of your liking.
It also says [megathread], must mean alot of replies methinks.
Kind of makes me sad when I trained minmatar and only 5-6 ships are worth flying. Amarr has only 5-6 ships that aren't worth flying.
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Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.09.03 19:57:00 -
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Originally by: Angelic Eviaran
Retribution:
-Needs 2 mids. Remove useless 5th utility high and put it in mid. Lets face it, why have a utility slot for a ship with range bonus. Utterly stupid.
I really want this change. I love my retri :-( ----------------------------------------- [Video] Support Barrage |
Nerfmycap
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Posted - 2008.09.03 20:01:00 -
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Originally by: Angelic Eviaran Edited by: Angelic Eviaran on 15/08/2008 09:48:35 Edited by: Angelic Eviaran on 15/08/2008 09:24:15 New patches come and go but the amarr problem is ignored. There are several ships that are very broken in the amarr fleet. I hope our fixes can also be included when they start fixing other races.
Retribution:
-Needs 2 mids. Remove useless 5th utility high and put it in mid. Lets face it, why have a utility slot for a ship with range bonus. Utterly stupid.
Vengeance:
-Rocket damage needs a boost just like torps got a boost for being close range weapons.
Omen:
-Needs more powergrid. If you cant fit the lowest tier pulses and cant fit anything else after that you know the ship is broken. This ship needs fitting because its a very crummy ship right now.
Maller:
-No use at all. Its a tanking ship of t1 cruiser class = useless. It needs more damage. Give it a damage bonus.
-Or you could keep the tanking bonus but give it a big drone bay.
Augoror:
-Caldari get a shield transfer bonus on their support cruiser, why isn't amarr getting armor transfer instead of cap transfer?
Curse:
-Will be useless after nano nerf. Without nano it has no tank. If you try to run your ew, wich is neuts + td, you dont have any cap for running tank. If you run a tank youre useless. CCP needs to give the curse the ability to inherently run its ew without 50 cap mods in mids and lows. Same goes for pilgrim.
Pilgrim:
-Range issue still not fixed. All other recons have range bonus except pilgrim. This is obviously wrong. Also same problem as curse: Cant inherently run its ew without 50 cap mods.
Sentinel:
-Same problem as curse. Cant inherently run its ew. Sure you can kill inties in it but a combat inty can do that too. This ship is weak. It also is the only ship class that doesnt get a hp boost compared to its t1 hull eventhough its a t2 ship. All EAS needs more armor and hull etc.
Prophecy:
-Epic fail tier 1 bc. There is simply no reason at all to fly this ship. Yes harbinger can outtank it quite well and do twice the damage while doing that.
-This ship needs bigger drone bay to be useful or get more dps by gun bonus or extra turret. The tank bonus + big drone bay can be an allright combo.
Crystals:
-There should be an option to switch crystal type on whole rack, or the ability to instantly switch ammo has little practical use.
Curse is epic. And crystals are epic. Stop the damn complaining just for the sake of it, curse can fit a passive armor tank for the probably blobwarfare after patch and killing cap will always be powerful. Some amarr ships have problems but a lot of it is just exaggereted rubbish. Amarr is the flavor of the month. Zealot is AMAZING. Apoc is AMAZING. Many other amarr ships are also excellent.
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Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.09.03 20:05:00 -
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Originally by: Nerfmycap
Curse is epic. And crystals are epic. Stop the damn complaining just for the sake of it, curse can fit a passive armor tank for the probably blobwarfare after patch and killing cap will always be powerful. Some amarr ships have problems but a lot of it is just exaggereted rubbish. Amarr is the flavor of the month. Zealot is AMAZING. Apoc is AMAZING. Many other amarr ships are also excellent.
Wait let me get this straight: You are against fixing each races weak ships so people dont have to cross train to even consider one of the shipclasses eventhough every race has every ship class? Ok. ----------------------------------------- [Video] Support Barrage |
AstroPhobic
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.09.03 22:52:00 -
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Let it go lyria.... just slip and slide away.....
You're on a calm beach... the sun is shining, the sand is soft. Bury your feet and relax on that towel, let all your cares just slide.... peaceful.... gone.
Isn't that better?
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Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.09.03 22:55:00 -
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Originally by: AstroPhobic Let it go lyria.... just slip and slide away.....
You're on a calm beach... the sun is shining, the sand is soft. Bury your feet and relax on that towel, let all your cares just slide.... peaceful.... gone.
Isn't that better?
Wow, how did you know?
I'm actually at the beach on holiday. Got this crummy pc that can barely run a browser. So no eve, thats why Im here spreading my infinite wisdom on the forums. Still 12 days left before I return to civilization. ----------------------------------------- [Video] Support Barrage |
AstroPhobic
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.09.03 23:09:00 -
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Originally by: Lyria Skydancer
Wow, how did you know?
I'm actually at the beach on holiday. Got this crummy pc that can barely run a browser. So no eve, thats why Im here spreading my infinite wisdom on the forums. Still 12 days left before I return to civilization.
12 days?
WTB your boss.
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Rajere
No Trademark Obsidian Empire
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Posted - 2008.09.03 23:19:00 -
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Is there really a whine thread for Amarr, the best pvp race in game atm?
Retribution: who cares vengeance: all AFs suck until nano-patch Omen: who cares Maller: seriously who cares Augoror: who cares Curse: They'll be alright as support and anti-support roles. Pilgrim: Pilgrim is already great at what it does, there is no range issue, learn to fly them. Sentinel: strongest frigate in the game, stop whining Prophecy: Harbinger. seriously. Cyclone? Ferox? Crystals: Only if all ammo was allowed to be switched for the entire rack, which the dev's have already said no it makes too many server calls and FC's would be ordering their fleets to switch ammo types constantly which would break the node. the fast crystal switching is already a benefit, all other guns/missiles must wait 10 seconds doing 0 DPS and they must switch ammo one turret at a time as well.
I'm pretty sure this is a fake whine thread to steer the devs away from nerfing amarr....and I just got trolled. oh well. NOTR How to Fail at Eve
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Angelic Eviaran
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Posted - 2008.09.04 16:34:00 -
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Originally by: Rajere Is there really a whine thread for Amarr, the best pvp race in game atm?
Retribution: who cares vengeance: all AFs suck until nano-patch Omen: who cares Maller: seriously who cares Augoror: who cares Curse: They'll be alright as support and anti-support roles. Pilgrim: Pilgrim is already great at what it does, there is no range issue, learn to fly them. Sentinel: strongest frigate in the game, stop whining Prophecy: Harbinger. seriously. Cyclone? Ferox? Crystals: Only if all ammo was allowed to be switched for the entire rack, which the dev's have already said no it makes too many server calls and FC's would be ordering their fleets to switch ammo types constantly which would break the node. the fast crystal switching is already a benefit, all other guns/missiles must wait 10 seconds doing 0 DPS and they must switch ammo one turret at a time as well.
I'm pretty sure this is a fake whine thread to steer the devs away from nerfing amarr....and I just got trolled. oh well.
Well, every other race seems to have their megathread. We need one too because even amarr has broken ships. I think can all agree that every race has its broken ships and easy ways of fixing them. Let people that dont crosstrain all over the place have some fun too.
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Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.09.05 15:43:00 -
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Originally by: Rei Crye Amarr are 100% totally fine, some meh ships. But all round a great race to fly. Started training them a long time ago, back when some people called them a joke .
Oh yea, Armor tanked curse for the win.
Uhm armor tanked curse sucks. You cant really fuel the reppers and neuts at the same time long enough. Curse dies with nano nerf. ----------------------------------------- [Video] Support Barrage |
Rainsdon
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.09.05 18:31:00 -
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Amarr got buffed the other patch. Back of the line, bub. Other races ships could do with a change.
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Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.09.05 19:47:00 -
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Originally by: Rainsdon Amarr got buffed the other patch. Back of the line, bub. Other races ships could do with a change.
But they are in a 2 year queue now. Amarr problems are not fixed yet. Why not fix the whole race while youre at it. Just fix these remaining ships and be done with it. ----------------------------------------- [Video] Support Barrage |
Commander Krispy
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Posted - 2008.09.06 11:14:00 -
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Originally by: Lyria Skydancer
Originally by: Rei Crye Amarr are 100% totally fine, some meh ships. But all round a great race to fly. Started training them a long time ago, back when some people called them a joke .
Oh yea, Armor tanked curse for the win.
Uhm armor tanked curse sucks. You cant really fuel the reppers and neuts at the same time long enough. Curse dies with nano nerf.
+1 of course, nanonerf = die of the curse.
If CCP add the range bonus on the pilgrim, definitely the curse is out of the game.
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Commander Krispy
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Posted - 2008.09.06 11:16:00 -
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Originally by: Rajere
Pilgrim: Pilgrim is already great at what it does, there is no range issue, learn to fly them.
True story, some player whine because pilgrim s***, but that's wrong the don't know how to play it :p
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Slade Hoo
Amarr xPlaguex
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Posted - 2008.09.06 16:47:00 -
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don't train for Amarr...they are broken. stick to Minmatar/Gallente
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Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.09.09 17:55:00 -
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Originally by: Commander Krispy
+1 of course, nanonerf = die of the curse.
If CCP add the range bonus on the pilgrim, definitely the curse is out of the game.
Yeah this is a huge problem. The only reason why curse didnt die with the nos nerf like pilgrim did is because curse could tank without cap, ie speed tank. Curse is going to be a very crappy ship soon. Wait and see.
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Siddy
Minmatar Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.09.09 21:23:00 -
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Edited by: Siddy on 09/09/2008 21:23:43 I heard that Amarr are suffering some serios problems.
Lets start adressing them by adding more DPS to Geddon, more range to apoch and more base damage mod to all lasers.
oh and change the abaddon armor bonus to 7,5% instead of 5% Sig removed, inappropriate content. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint |
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