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Danaka
Gallente The Old Comrades Association
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Posted - 2008.08.15 21:20:00 -
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I just thought I'd pass this tidbit of information on. It seems that there is a bit of hi space Piracy going on near Jita. Frieghters leaving the area are scanned and attacked. By the time Concord intervens it's way too late. In response I'd like CCP to extend the "Kill Rights" to all members of the frieghters corp.
I'd be interested in getting some opinions on this idea.
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Samaritan Azuma
Gallente Trans Eve Organization
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Posted - 2008.08.15 21:37:00 -
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i dont think theyll allow whole corps get kill rights over one sad panda
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Andrew shi'tra
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Posted - 2008.08.15 21:43:00 -
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pirates in safe space.... Yeah right, I'm sure a lot of people will believe that
NEWS FLASH!!!
in hi sec your protected by concord and its an exploit to circumevent concorde so if they were doing this by killing things in hi sec theyd be banned
in other words
stop trolling |
Dirk Magnum
Spearhead Endeavors
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Posted - 2008.08.15 21:52:00 -
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You mean extend kill rights to all the members of the suicide gankers corp, not the freighter's.
Of course either way it's not a great idea IMO.
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar Holy Church Of Garmonism
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Posted - 2008.08.15 22:37:00 -
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Originally by: Andrew shi'tra pirates in safe space.... Yeah right, I'm sure a lot of people will believe that
NEWS FLASH!!!
in hi sec your protected by concord and its an exploit to circumevent concorde so if they were doing this by killing things in hi sec theyd be banned
in other words
stop trolling
No.... you're avenged by concord... only you can protect yourself Signature graphics that may only contain your character name, corporation logo, corporation or personal slogan or other text that is directly related to your in-game persona, or content directly related to EVE Online. All content must be in good taste.Applebabe |
Kirra Liu
Echelon Holdings Echelon.
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Posted - 2008.08.15 22:37:00 -
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Originally by: Dirk Magnum either way it's not a great idea IMO.
I disagree there, I think it would be great fun as it would give the possibility of more pew pew for the hi-sec pirates. And if you kill someone then their corp should be able to avenge their members death. Maybe it would spice things up alittle
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Xindi Kraid
Kraid Salvaging
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Posted - 2008.08.15 22:46:00 -
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Did somone forget about those escorts? Who fly WITH the freighter in question, scout the area ahead, and instantly vaporise anyone who screws with the freighter. -So says Xindi Kraid
Caveat Emptor Caveat Venditor CAVEAT |
Kavu
Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2008.08.15 22:51:00 -
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Edited by: Kavu on 15/08/2008 22:53:54
Originally by: Andrew shi'tra pirates in safe space.... Yeah right, I'm sure a lot of people will believe that
NEWS FLASH!!!
in hi sec your protected by concord and its an exploit to circumevent concorde so if they were doing this by killing things in hi sec theyd be banned
omg nub its called suicide, it goes on quite often in high sec systems its not circumventing concord, its killing before they arrive
Originally by: Andrew shi'tra
in other words
stop trolling
NO U
Concord provides consequences, not security
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techzer0
Minmatar Mafia
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Posted - 2008.08.16 00:31:00 -
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Originally by: Xindi Kraid Did somone forget about those escorts? Who fly WITH the freighter in question, scout the area ahead, and instantly vaporise anyone who screws with the freighter.
Who the heck does that or brings logistics???/ ------------ CCP > Let's play the nerf a race game! Next up minmatar! |
Kirra Liu
Echelon Holdings Echelon.
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Posted - 2008.08.16 00:38:00 -
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Originally by: techzer0
Originally by: Xindi Kraid Did somone forget about those escorts? Who fly WITH the freighter in question, scout the area ahead, and instantly vaporise anyone who screws with the freighter.
Who the heck does that or brings logistics???/
Noone that I've ever seen and if they did it would surely mean they have too much time on their hands. Also the corp's recruitment ad would be great:
"Corp seek's a freighter pilot for multiple runs to jita, we also seek a capable FC and 10 combat pilots".
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techzer0
Minmatar Mafia
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Posted - 2008.08.16 01:01:00 -
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Originally by: Kirra Liu
Originally by: techzer0
Originally by: Xindi Kraid Did somone forget about those escorts? Who fly WITH the freighter in question, scout the area ahead, and instantly vaporise anyone who screws with the freighter.
Who the heck does that or brings logistics???/
Noone that I've ever seen and if they did it would surely mean they have too much time on their hands. Also the corp's recruitment ad would be great:
"Corp seek's a freighter pilot for multiple runs to jita, we also seek a capable FC and 10 combat pilots".
I have a freighter alt and can nearly fly one myself... and we have no shortage of combat pilots in our corp to back me up if I was moving enough isk to have someone think about ganking me. So i dun understand ------------ CCP > Let's play the nerf a race game! Next up minmatar! |
Xap Starfire
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Posted - 2008.08.16 02:11:00 -
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Edited by: Xap Starfire on 16/08/2008 02:11:37 I think they're going to nerf suicide ganking soon...
That being said, try massive retribution? If someone suicide ganks you in hi-sec, get your buddies to wardec them if they're in a corp, and suicide gank them if they're not. There's probably other mean things you can do to them as well, and put them in your addressbook for retribution later if necessary.
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Andrew shi'tra
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Posted - 2008.08.16 09:19:00 -
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Originally by: Kavu Edited by: Kavu on 15/08/2008 22:55:37
Originally by: Andrew shi'tra pirates in safe space.... Yeah right, I'm sure a lot of people will believe that
NEWS FLASH!!!
in hi sec your protected by concord and its an exploit to circumevent concorde so if they were doing this by killing things in hi sec theyd be banned
omg nub its called suicide, it goes on quite often in high sec systems its not circumventing concord, its killing before they arrive
Originally by: Andrew shi'tra
in other words
stop trolling
NO U
lol sure w/e, u come "suicide" me tehn, and we can see if u gett banned 4 it, concorde is there to protect u so if u cirumevent them by killing befor tehy arrive u get banned
pirates in safe space is NOT alowed or the only peple playing would be grifers. |
Red zeon
Caldari Shades Corp The OSS
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Posted - 2008.08.16 09:27:00 -
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yes you are allowed to attack people in highsec space. otherwise youd instapop when you activate your module against another oponent. also why there is different times of respondensy to concord in 0.5 tp 1.0 but suicide ganking a freighter before concord arrives in highsec? how the hell is it possible to gang a freighter with any tank? dont they tank like 1mil hp with 1 briefcase? but if you are talking about something like badgers, they pop fast.
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Andrew shi'tra
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Posted - 2008.08.16 09:30:00 -
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Originally by: Red zeon yes you are allowed to attack people in highsec space. otherwise youd instapop when you activate your module against another oponent. also why there is different times of respondensy to concord in 0.5 tp 1.0 but suicide ganking a freighter before concord arrives in highsec? how the hell is it possible to gang a freighter with any tank? dont they tank like 1mil hp with 1 briefcase? but if you are talking about something like badgers, they pop fast.
ten pleese, come "suicide" me, ill laugh wehn u get baned. |
Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.08.16 09:37:00 -
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Originally by: techzer0
Originally by: Kirra Liu
Originally by: techzer0
Originally by: Xindi Kraid Did somone forget about those escorts? Who fly WITH the freighter in question, scout the area ahead, and instantly vaporise anyone who screws with the freighter.
Who the heck does that or brings logistics???/
Noone that I've ever seen and if they did it would surely mean they have too much time on their hands. Also the corp's recruitment ad would be great:
"Corp seek's a freighter pilot for multiple runs to jita, we also seek a capable FC and 10 combat pilots".
I have a freighter alt and can nearly fly one myself... and we have no shortage of combat pilots in our corp to back me up if I was moving enough isk to have someone think about ganking me. So i dun understand
probably do better with falcon/logistics pilots, as general combat ships wouldn't help so much.
Idle on the other hand has an issue with not the number of combat pilots, but the number of pilots able to enter highsec
although I suppose the number of combat pilots is questionable
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techzer0
Minmatar Mafia
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Posted - 2008.08.16 09:38:00 -
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Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton Idle on the other hand has an issue with not the number of combat pilots, but the number of pilots able to enter highsec
although I suppose the number of combat pilots is questionable
That number of people allowed to enter highsec dropped by half when I left ------------ CCP > Let's play the nerf a race game! Next up minmatar! |
Erialor Godsent
Gallente Federal Navy Support Divison
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Posted - 2008.08.16 10:21:00 -
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Originally by: Andrew shi'tra lol sure w/e, u come "suicide" me tehn, and we can see if u gett banned 4 it, concorde is there to protect u so if u cirumevent them by killing befor tehy arrive u get banned
pirates in safe space is NOT alowed or the only peple playing would be grifers.
You might want to read up on this little knowledgebase-article to become a little more educated on suicide-ganking and that CONCORD is only there to avenge you.... --
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Hooride707
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Posted - 2008.08.16 10:50:00 -
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So andrew,what system you hangin in?
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Andrew shi'tra
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Posted - 2008.08.16 11:16:00 -
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Originally by: Hooride707 So andrew,what system you hangin in?
why u wanna now?
u gunna "suicide" me? lol
go use a location agent if u want 2 get baned tat bad |
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Andrew shi'tra
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Posted - 2008.08.16 11:16:00 -
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Solomon XI
Hoist The Colors.
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Posted - 2008.08.16 11:24:00 -
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You know I must be in the minority but I think kill-rights should be expanded to all corp members when a corp member dies. That'll mean a hella-lot more PvP all around. In theory. ~Solo Hoist The Colors. (CEO) |
Firkragg
Blue Labs Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.08.16 11:57:00 -
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Originally by: Red zeon yes you are allowed to attack people in highsec space. otherwise youd instapop when you activate your module against another oponent. also why there is different times of respondensy to concord in 0.5 tp 1.0 but suicide ganking a freighter before concord arrives in highsec? how the hell is it possible to gang a freighter with any tank? dont they tank like 1mil hp with 1 briefcase? but if you are talking about something like badgers, they pop fast.
erm you cant fit anything on a freighter....
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Danaka
Gallente The Old Comrades Association
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Posted - 2008.08.16 12:03:00 -
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Andrew, I'm sorry that you feel that this incident was simply nothing more than a made up story. However infact it did occur, about seven jumps out from Jita one of our hoarders was scanned and destroyed and although Concord intervened it was not soon enough. The total loss not counting ship was about 1.475 bil in items.
Now the fact that I have yet to see CCP banning anyone for Piracy not withstanding it did happen. It's simple, you watch for ships that are on auto pilot, scan 'em, destroy them and your cohorts are there to salvage the goodies. It is because of this that I was inquiring and trying to find out what ppl would think about extending the kill rights to the offended parties entire corp.
And the reason for that is that most of us have multiple alts. And a lot of ppl have alts for frieghter pilots, and those alts are usually w/o combat skills except for shields.
Just trying to get an opinion and hopefully gatheer some useful info.
Thx It takes practice, time, and execution. |
Feilamya
Minmatar Pelennor Swarm G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2008.08.16 12:05:00 -
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Hi Space Trolls
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Andrew shi'tra
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Posted - 2008.08.16 12:11:00 -
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wel first of, horder isnt freighter, second, if it did hapen tehn tehy will be baned, is just a matter off time |
Broken Rose
Minmatar Malum Crusis
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Posted - 2008.08.16 12:29:00 -
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Well maybe I misunderstood, but suicide ganking is not an illegal activity at this time and tbh not a bannable offense.
Simple solution manually fly ships and discard the auto pilot systems, if your flying 2 bill isk of items in any vessel on auto pilot then you deserve to lose them.
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Monkey Saturday
Knights of Chaos Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2008.08.16 12:50:00 -
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Originally by: Red zeon yes you are allowed to attack people in highsec space. otherwise youd instapop when you activate your module against another oponent. also why there is different times of respondensy to concord in 0.5 tp 1.0 but suicide ganking a freighter before concord arrives in highsec? how the hell is it possible to gang a freighter with any tank? dont they tank like 1mil hp with 1 briefcase? but if you are talking about something like badgers, they pop fast.
...hax?
Thanks for the Maulus BPO nerf! :D |
Deny ta
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Posted - 2008.08.16 12:58:00 -
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andrew since when do u realy think than EVE will ban players on eve for piracy, if so then eve wouldent be eve, there wouldent be 0.0 sectors and also eve eventualy will be.... boring.... simple cose no competition and plus valeus in market drop as some valuable materials ores and ice from 0.0 sectors known to be dangerus will be **** easy to mine when there is no1 to gang or attack, trustme i have been victums in such situations altho not loosing a 1.4b ISK frieghter, i nearly got suicide ganged and infact my nemesis was alot stronger than the 3 players who tryed to suicide gang and I managed to take out 2 before warping out (Was s*** scared of lossing the 23mil Stealth bomber that i just got) it took roughly 40 seconds in all to attack back and warp out since they first layed fire apon me and with in that time limit i did not see concord at all. ofcourse when i went back there was 15 concord ships witch took out the last remaning ship so in all NO, suicide ganking is not iligal in high sec and canot be banned for as its not as sevier as for example cheating or hacking isk
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fityone cents
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Posted - 2008.08.16 13:53:00 -
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Originally by: Danaka Andrew, I'm sorry that you feel that this incident was simply nothing more than a made up story. However infact it did occur, about seven jumps out from Jita one of our hoarders was scanned and destroyed and although Concord intervened it was not soon enough. The total loss not counting ship was about 1.475 bil in items.
Now the fact that I have yet to see CCP banning anyone for Piracy not withstanding it did happen. It's simple, you watch for ships that are on auto pilot, scan 'em, destroy them and your cohorts are there to salvage the goodies. It is because of this that I was inquiring and trying to find out what ppl would think about extending the kill rights to the offended parties entire corp.
And the reason for that is that most of us have multiple alts. And a lot of ppl have alts for frieghter pilots, and those alts are usually w/o combat skills except for shields.
Just trying to get an opinion and hopefully gatheer some useful info.
Thx
Useful information to be gathered - a hoarder is not a freighter (it is a ship classs in eve) . Had your corp mate been in a freighter it would have taken multiple BS/BC to take it down before concord responded.
As long as the perpetrators weren't in NPC corps war dec them
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