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Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
1910
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Posted - 2012.03.23 11:49:00 -
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Since you babbies can't adapt without reading some sort of 'how 2 grief at eve' guide, consider this.
1. Steal critical mission item in innocuous ship and leave it in a can.
2. Mission runner has the option to take his item back at the risk of flagging himself to everyone for 15 minutes.
3. Cloaky ships
4. *************
5. Profit
(that's the meme right?) (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Subdolus Venator
State War Academy Caldari State
14
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Posted - 2012.03.23 11:51:00 -
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Does anyone actually need to be told this? I thought it was clearly obvious to the most casual of observers. |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
1910
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Posted - 2012.03.23 11:57:00 -
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Looking at all the high sec whine threads I'd say so yes. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
225
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Posted - 2012.03.23 12:07:00 -
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I wish I would've thought of this earlier. Up until now, it's been extremely difficult to achieve any kind of success with can-flipping because my corporations, along with their neutral RR support, have been utterly unable to contend with individual, highly-organized, competent, and pvp-savvy mission runners who decide to take back their items after they're flipped. Now that these mission runners will become flagged to everyone, we will finally be able to pool our collective resources, as well as have the on-the-spot capability to recruit neutral mercenaries for help, to take them down.
Thank you for opening my eyes. I will reverse my stance on this proposed change immediately. |
Reppyk
The Black Shell P O D
69
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Posted - 2012.03.23 12:08:00 -
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That's the Black Ops buff.
1) cloak in a random belt 2) wait for the miners to jetcan here 3) wait for a canfliper 4) uncloak 5) wtfbbqpwn'd 6) ???? 7) profit.
1b hull and 1 year-skillplan, worth it. |
Ifly Uwalk
Concentrated Evil Mining For Profit Alliance
184
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Posted - 2012.03.23 12:12:00 -
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And now from the bear's perspective:
1.) Grab mission item, hit Ctrl-Alt-q
2.) For 15 minutes makesammy, surfweb, hithead
3.) Log on, type "trollolololol" in Local
4.) ?????
5.) Profit!
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Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
1911
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Posted - 2012.03.23 12:12:00 -
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Black ops work fine at the moment if you use them somewhere where their unique abilities are relevant.
I don't know why anyone in high sec would want one. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
1911
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Posted - 2012.03.23 12:14:00 -
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If you can't probe someone out in 15 minutes I feel sorry for you. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Reppyk
The Black Shell P O D
69
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Posted - 2012.03.23 12:20:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:I don't know why anyone in high sec would want one. Serious answer : the widow is a nice rook with a bit more EHP (or a short-range scorpion for rich idiots). Yes it has nothing to do with the BO special abilities. But nodoby wants to fly a widow or a rook (why ? Because of falcons ) so the point is moot.
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Ifly Uwalk
Concentrated Evil Mining For Profit Alliance
184
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Posted - 2012.03.23 12:27:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:If you can't probe someone out in 15 minutes I feel sorry for you. From reading Grayscales's answers in the other thread I didn't get the impression that a "Suspect" flag would make you not disappear from the universe upon log-off. If you interpreted otherwise (or I missed one of Grayscale's answers) then let's hope you're right. |
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Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
1912
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Posted - 2012.03.23 12:31:00 -
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I'd hope that the suspect state, which technically means you are aggressed means you don't disappear until the timer is up. As you say though nothing is guaranteed about that at this time, I just imagine that the current aggression mechanic will roll over. Time will tell! (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Subdolus Venator
State War Academy Caldari State
14
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Posted - 2012.03.23 13:02:00 -
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Ifly Uwalk wrote:And now from the bear's perspective:
1.) Grab mission item, hit Ctrl-Alt-q
2.) For 15 minutes makesammy, surfweb, hithead
3.) Log on, type "trollolololol" in Local
4.) ?????
5.) Profit!
Frankly, any bear savvy enough to do this (presuming mechanics allow it) deserves to escape. The vast majority will have no clue.
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Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
228
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Posted - 2012.03.23 13:06:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:Since you babbies can't adapt without reading some sort of 'how 2 grief at eve' guide, consider this.
1. Steal critical mission item in innocuous ship and leave it in a can.
2. Mission runner has the option to take his item back at the risk of flagging himself to everyone for 15 minutes.
3. Cloaky ships
4. *************
5. Profit
(that's the meme right?)
If you think this is new, somehow different post-Crimewatch, or effective.....you can't be helped.
A) you can do this now. People rarely do anymore because.... B) it stopped being effective when the strategy was nerfed over a year ago. You know, when CCP started making mission items respawn rapidly, rather than at DT? Oh wait, you don't know, because you are talking about something out of your experience.
If anything, it will be far LESS effective with the new 'safety' plan for carebears.
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Meridith Akesia
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
108
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Posted - 2012.03.23 13:37:00 -
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Why dont we like, leave highsec. |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
1912
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Posted - 2012.03.23 13:53:00 -
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Meridith Akesia wrote:Why dont we like, leave highsec. No way man. I like my PVP safe. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
ChYph3r
Multiplex Gaming SpaceMonkey's Alliance
22
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Posted - 2012.03.23 13:56:00 -
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Meridith Akesia wrote:Why dont we like, leave highsec.
because they are afraid of us in 0.0 AMP - Angry Monkey Podcast |
DaRiKavus
Expendable Asset's
14
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Posted - 2012.03.23 14:13:00 -
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1/10 for troll
7/10 for ammount of replies
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Grumpymunky
Super Monkey Tribe of Danger
50
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Posted - 2012.03.23 15:59:00 -
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You're terrible at this, 4 is supposed to be question marks. Post with your monkey. |
Aqriue
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
498
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Posted - 2012.03.23 20:39:00 -
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Oh look, a yellow can in my mission space.
How did that get there?
Guess it means I should take it *<_< of eyes as local is checked >_> *
Yup, the coast looks clear.
And I am just going to....
Warp the **** off. God damn some people put to much ******* effort into even trying. Of course obvious trap is obvious as the other guy's lack of PVP experience he needs to bang on ships that are no challenge (really? have you ever seen an active tank fit PVE ship win in a fight? ) but in EVE its just a justification to show darwinism.
You ******* deserve to lose if you are an idiot that loots a yellow can and you are not spoiling for a fight.
You also deserve to lose your subcap ship to tracking titans and fighter bombers before their nerf, but these guys same guys that lost their ships to titan guns and super carriers whined were not "fair" as much as Lady Spank is trying to to prove that carebears whine. In the end, EVERY ******* HUMAN WHINES something is not fair, so Titans, Super Carriers, War Dec avoidance and aggression mechanics don't need to be changed all all...because EVE isn't fair and you deserve to whine and lose if you can't figure out how to adapt to when you lost your battleship to Titan guns or avoided your dec. You can always ******* shoot someone anytime / anywhere so long as they are not docked and not logged, so who gives a **** if Lady Spank belives CCP is making it easier for carebears since CCP has MADE IT EASIER FOR EVERYONE in the past months.
I am all for leaving EVE as harsh as it is supposed to be (like it was before ), lets bring back Titan gun tracking and Super Carriers cause null pilots whined about it. Lets leave avoidance mechanics and logoffski as they were before the whining. Bring back insurance for ganks. Bring back extended agression mechanics by shooting a wrecks with a web. Everyone whined to fixe these things BECAUSE THEY ARE HUMANS WITH SELF ENTITLEMENT ISSUES. ****, I want to hear the whining from both sides of things that Lady Spank belives CCP did in favor of carebears, because CCP has done things for the whinebears in null and lulsec as well. I want to hear the whine of everything that is unfair, because BOTH SIDES have whined and its soooo arousing. |
Gnaw LF
17
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Posted - 2012.03.23 20:55:00 -
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Herr Wilkus wrote:Lady Spank wrote:Since you babbies can't adapt without reading some sort of 'how 2 grief at eve' guide, consider this.
1. Steal critical mission item in innocuous ship and leave it in a can.
2. Mission runner has the option to take his item back at the risk of flagging himself to everyone for 15 minutes.
3. Cloaky ships
4. *************
5. Profit
(that's the meme right?) If you think this is new, somehow different post-Crimewatch, or effective.....you can't be helped. A) you can do this now. People rarely do anymore because.... B) it stopped being effective when the strategy was nerfed over a year ago. You know, when CCP started making mission items respawn rapidly, rather than at DT? Oh wait, you don't know, because you are talking about something out of your experience. If anything, it will be far LESS effective with the new 'safety' plan for carebears.
I find it funny that you are accusing someone of not knowing the mechanics of ninja looting mission items. The tears coming out of your corp/alliance today are just superb. |
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Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
1920
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Posted - 2012.03.23 20:58:00 -
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On the contrary, I think the high-sec 'PVP' noobs are the whiners in this instance, not the carebears. While I don't believe in 100% safe space, I believe even less in risk free cheap killing of ships. Even moreso than that indeed, the point of this thread is to suggest that while people are whining about the death of high-sec risk free PVP.... it still has potential to exist. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Gnaw LF
17
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Posted - 2012.03.23 21:00:00 -
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Aqriue wrote:Oh look, a yellow can in my mission space. How did that get there? Guess it means I should take it *<_< of eyes as local is checked >_> * Yup, the coast looks clear. And I am just going to.... Warp the **** off. God damn some people put to much ******* effort into even trying. Of course obvious trap is obvious as the other guy's lack of PVP experience he needs to bang on ships that are no challenge (really? have you ever seen an active tank fit PVE ship win in a fight? ) but in EVE its just a justification to show darwinism. You ******* deserve to lose if you are an idiot that loots a yellow can and you are not spoiling for a fight. You also deserve to lose your subcap ship to tracking titans and fighter bombers before their nerf, but these guys same guys that lost their ships to titan guns and super carriers whined were not "fair" as much as Lady Spank is trying to to prove that carebears whine. In the end, EVERY ******* HUMAN WHINES something is not fair, so Titans, Super Carriers, War Dec avoidance and aggression mechanics don't need to be changed all all...because EVE isn't fair and you deserve to whine and lose if you can't figure out how to adapt to when you lost your battleship to Titan guns or avoided your dec. You can always ******* shoot someone anytime / anywhere so long as they are not docked and not logged, so who gives a **** if Lady Spank belives CCP is making it easier for carebears since CCP has MADE IT EASIER FOR EVERYONE in the past months. I am all for leaving EVE as harsh as it is supposed to be (like it was before ), lets bring back Titan gun tracking and Super Carriers cause null pilots whined about it. Lets leave avoidance mechanics and logoffski as they were before the whining. Bring back insurance for ganks. Bring back extended agression mechanics by shooting a wrecks with a web. Everyone whined to fixe these things BECAUSE THEY ARE HUMANS WITH SELF ENTITLEMENT ISSUES. ****, I want to hear the whining from both sides of things that Lady Spank belives CCP did in favor of carebears, because CCP has done things for the whinebears in null and lulsec as well. I want to hear the whine of everything that is unfair, because BOTH SIDES have whined and its soooo arousing.
You have smoked yourself ********. While I am not in favor of the Titan tracking change, the reason they are being implemented into the game is because too few of them are dying. The suspect flag is here to change the current formula, which is "grief ship kills bear ship" to "greif ship kills bear ship, random ship tried to kill grief ship, friend ship helps grief ship, OMGWTF HALF THE ******* UNDOCK IS SHOOTING EACH OTHER". This proposed change is aimed at introducing more risk and more chaos into the high sec system, that is good news. |
Khergit Deserters
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2012.03.23 21:22:00 -
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Ifly Uwalk wrote: 2.) For 15 minutes makesammy, surfweb, hithead
Larfing OL Looks like Nadsat language from A Clockwork Orange gazetta - newspaper glazz - eye gloopy - stupid *golly - unit of money goloss - voice goober - lip gooly - to walk gorlo - throat govoreet - to speak or talk grahzny - dirty grazzy - soiled gromky - loud
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1348
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Posted - 2012.03.23 21:42:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:If you can't probe someone out in 15 minutes I feel sorry for you.
Can usually be done in 2 minutes with a couple of grav caps on a larger ship - but a stealth ECCM pimped or T3 is a bit of a challenge - ECCM "unprobe-able" was nerfed some time ago.
Be interesting to scan out GCCed ships and blast them.
Can they dock or was that going to be changed too?
if they can't dock, nor log, then this is going to be mosh pit fun.
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Callous Jade
Narcissistic Ventures
18
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Posted - 2012.03.24 22:08:00 -
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ChYph3r wrote:Meridith Akesia wrote:Why dont we like, leave highsec. because they are afraid of us in 0.0
Its certainly not you (or your horrible alliance) that anyone's afraid of...your supercap spamming overlords perhaps, but not you. |
Khanh'rhh
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
910
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Posted - 2012.03.24 23:55:00 -
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Aqriue wrote:Oh look, a yellow can in my mission space. How did that get there? Guess it means I should take it *<_< of eyes as local is checked >_> * Yup, the coast looks clear. And I am just going to.... Warp the **** off. God damn some people put to much ******* effort into even trying. Of course obvious trap is obvious as the other guy's lack of PVP experience he needs to bang on ships that are no challenge (really? have you ever seen an active tank fit PVE ship win in a fight? ) but in EVE its just a justification to show darwinism. You ******* deserve to lose if you are an idiot that loots a yellow can and you are not spoiling for a fight. You also deserve to lose your subcap ship to tracking titans and fighter bombers before their nerf, but these guys same guys that lost their ships to titan guns and super carriers whined were not "fair" as much as Lady Spank is trying to to prove that carebears whine. In the end, EVERY ******* HUMAN WHINES something is not fair, so Titans, Super Carriers, War Dec avoidance and aggression mechanics don't need to be changed all all...because EVE isn't fair and you deserve to whine and lose if you can't figure out how to adapt to when you lost your battleship to Titan guns or avoided your dec. You can always ******* shoot someone anytime / anywhere so long as they are not docked and not logged, so who gives a **** if Lady Spank belives CCP is making it easier for carebears since CCP has MADE IT EASIER FOR EVERYONE in the past months. I am all for leaving EVE as harsh as it is supposed to be (like it was before ), lets bring back Titan gun tracking and Super Carriers cause null pilots whined about it. Lets leave avoidance mechanics and logoffski as they were before the whining. Bring back insurance for ganks. Bring back extended agression mechanics by shooting a wrecks with a web. Everyone whined to fixe these things BECAUSE THEY ARE HUMANS WITH SELF ENTITLEMENT ISSUES. ****, I want to hear the whining from both sides of things that Lady Spank belives CCP did in favor of carebears, because CCP has done things for the whinebears in null and lulsec as well. I want to hear the whine of everything that is unfair, because BOTH SIDES have whined and its soooo arousing.
Hey, bro? How's your blood pressure?
Sincerely, Concerned Reader - "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |
Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
425
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Posted - 2012.03.25 07:28:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Can they dock or was that going to be changed too?
Can't dock/jump for 60 seconds after shooting, 15 min suspect flag will not go away for docking or jumping ... as I understand it |
Asudem
Asen of Asgard
16
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Posted - 2012.03.25 09:37:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:Since you babbies can't adapt without reading some sort of 'how 2 grief at eve' guide, consider this.
1. Steal critical mission item in innocuous ship and leave it in a can.
2. Mission runner has the option to take his item back at the risk of flagging himself to everyone for 15 minutes.
3. Cloaky ships
4. *************
5. Profit
(that's the meme right?)
No big deal: Fly to can, align to station (in case you have a mate/alt near station just warp to her/him), hit warp/dock and take the item back at the same time. Carebear baiting only works on dumbass. |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
1945
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Posted - 2012.03.26 01:35:00 -
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Asudem wrote:Carebear baiting only works on dumbass. Are you suggesting that 'dumbass' doesn't cover most people in high-sec? (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Grumpymunky
Super Monkey Tribe of Danger
53
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Posted - 2012.03.26 02:26:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:Asudem wrote:Carebear baiting only works on dumbass. Are you suggesting that 'dumbass' doesn't cover most people in high-sec? Are you suggesting it doesn't cover most people everywhere else as well? Post with your monkey. |
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