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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2008.08.24 08:09:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 24/08/2008 08:09:57
I found this video when looking around for Ubuntu 8.10 information. It shows a user who has set up his box to look a bit like Vista, but I think it looks even better myself. And the effects are of course a nice crowd pleaser.
Nice Ubuntu effects video
I wish the system looked like this out of the box to be honest, but it doesnt. You need to download stuff and set it up so it looks this good.
Oh, and the video is from March 2007 so this is nothing new for Linux users.
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Originally by: Roguehalo Can you nano Titans?
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2008.08.24 08:46:00 -
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Originally by: Titus Vulso Doesn't take a lot from a base install to have these effects, he has done some tweaks such as replacing the snow effect images with leaves though. And I don't really think his intention was to make it like Vista
I think it looks similar, but better. ---
Originally by: Roguehalo Can you nano Titans?
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2008.08.24 08:57:00 -
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Originally by: Titus Vulso Pic
Thats me running 3 eve premium clients on Ubuntu with compiz enabled. It's the expo effect, those desktops are all rendered real time. It also runs really well although there is obviously a performance hit running 3 clients with a compositing window manager enabled.
Pretty sweet. What graphics card do you use?
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Originally by: Roguehalo Can you nano Titans?
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2008.08.24 09:01:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 24/08/2008 09:01:59
Originally by: Titus Vulso 8800 GTS, so nothing fancy.
Cool. I have the 9800 GTX which is about the same speed. Also I have ordered a 24" screen. It really was about time. 19" doesnt cut it anymore.
I tried the Linux Eve version on a old computer but couldnt get it to work at all. Turns out I was trying with a Geforce 4200 graphics card which isnt supported.
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Originally by: Roguehalo Can you nano Titans?
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2008.08.24 13:07:00 -
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I downloaded Envy, picked what version of the Nvidia drivers I wanted (the latest) and clicked Next a couple of times. After reboot, hardware accelerated graphics at 1280x1024 works just like in Windows.
There has been much improvement in this area the last couple of years.
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Originally by: Roguehalo Can you nano Titans?
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2008.08.24 13:37:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 24/08/2008 13:39:33
Double post.
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Originally by: Roguehalo Can you nano Titans?
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2008.08.24 13:39:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 24/08/2008 13:42:57
Originally by: ReaperOfSly
I don't think the latest nVidia drivers are going to be much help with an ATI card.
Envy has the same options for ATI cards.
Originally by: ReaperOfSly Okay I've installed 8.04 with wubi. It actually works at full resolution. I heard a while ago that ATI released specifications for their drivers which helped the Linux developers write better drivers. I guess it's true.
Nice. Dont forget to download all the updates using the Update Manager in the menus. Always good to get the latest stuff.
You want the compiz settings manager to play around with the graphics effects (spinning 3D cube, wobbly windows and all that stuff).
Open a terminal and type:
sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
Then you have the GUI for the settings manager in the menu and can play around with it.
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Originally by: Roguehalo Can you nano Titans?
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2008.08.25 16:01:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 25/08/2008 16:02:00
Its possible to make Ubuntu incredibly good looking, but it takes a while. But at least it gives you back the feeling of fun and enjoyment in operating systems.
Also having Linux knowledge can really help in the IT business. At my job, we run Unix for some stuff and I got a higher salary just because I could write simple Unix scripts that simplifies tasks for people. This is something you learn in a week...
So if you are in the IT business, Linux is good to know for your career as well. And its fun. You appreciate a operating system that just does what its told without protesting or asking if you are sure every 5 minutes.
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Originally by: Roguehalo Can you nano Titans?
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2008.08.26 17:29:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 26/08/2008 17:37:48
Originally by: CCP Tuxford
Careful with monitors (and TVs for that matter). You can't really go smaller again. I've got a 24" monitor at work but have been mainly working from home on my 19" monitor. For the first month of two I felt really... claustrophobic is probably best describes it. Although I'm not claustrophobic so how would I know
That's what she said.
Nice to see you again Tuxford. You are right of course. I know Im going to suffer at work because there I only have a 19" screen. After spending the weekend in front of my 24", Im going to hate Mondays even more I bet.
What I could do is bring in my personal monitor to work some day. My desk is right next to my boss desk, so showing her the 24" (no phun intended, still talking about monitors) might persuade her to see the advantages.
Originally by: CCP Atropos Wow. My Ubuntu experience was hideous. I had a Ubuntu box for testing of the Linux EVE client, and I attempted to get Beryl to work on it; it made my head implode. And after it didn't work and I removed it, my nVidia drivers had disappeared and would no longer give me a decent resolution.
I've no idea what made my experience of Ubuntu so different, but it honestly didn't inspire me to try again. Windows might be a piece of shit, but I know where I stand when I want to install stuff and just get it working.
You are not alone. My first Linux experience was crash and burn as well. It was back in the days of Red Hat when nothing worked out of the box. You really had to be stubborn and have tons of time to get things the way you wanted. And google like a maniac of course.
My nvidia drivers disappeared from a Ubuntu version before as well. I think it was because when the auto update downloaded new headers for the kernel, the drivers didnt work anymore and needed to be reinstalled. It has since been fixed though.
Give it another chance every year or so. Sooner or later you will find that it works pretty good. But yes, Windows is better at "just running". Ubuntu is still for the ones with lots of time.
Originally by: Benco97 Edited by: Benco97 on 25/08/2008 23:39:25 I used Wubi to install Hardy Heron onto this computer alongside my Vista install, the setup all went very smoothly and I was impressed compared to what I've seen Ubuntu be like before. I did have one error on installation completion where there were several IRQ collisions however this was a hardware issue caused by my motherboard just being an ass and was easily resolved.
Yes, it gets better and better. Looking at how far it has come from just a few years back, its pretty impressive. Its still not as simple as windows, and it probably never will be, but its free and you dont have to put up with the Microsoft crap. Besides, Linux/Unix knowledge is great in the IT industry as well.
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Originally by: Roguehalo Can you nano Titans?
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2008.08.26 18:33:00 -
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Originally by: Tobias Sjodin Then I tried ALSA, which bugged the crap out of me.
Ubuntu 8.10 has switched sound server from ALSA to Pulse Audio. Might work better for you. 8.10 is still in alpha though.
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Originally by: Roguehalo Can you nano Titans?
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2008.08.27 17:17:00 -
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Originally by: Tobias Sjodin
Originally by: Jim McGregor
Originally by: Tobias Sjodin Then I tried ALSA, which bugged the crap out of me.
Ubuntu 8.10 has switched sound server from ALSA to Pulse Audio. Might work better for you. 8.10 is still in alpha though.
Err, Pulse depends on either ALSA or OSS, which means it has the same flaws.
Didnt know that. But surely it must be improved in some way since they are starting to use it?
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Originally by: Roguehalo Can you nano Titans?
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2008.08.28 15:44:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 28/08/2008 15:45:27
Originally by: Tobias Sjodin this unfortunately stands for Linux as a whole: Hardware manufacturers, software developers in the commercial industry, and game-developers do not give Linux the attention of the Windows-platform and this is why it isn't the first choice for many (myself included) as an everyday desktop OS.
Its hard to argue with this and you are of course correct. The only thing that will make the software industry develop for Linux in the same way as for Windows is that the user percentage grows enough to make it profitable.
In a way, its a shame that there are so much Windows piracy. If it wasnt for that, tons and tons of users would use Linux for economical reasons.
MacOS is really in a similar situation, and while its not being free, its hard to come by better applications than on the Windows platform.
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Originally by: Roguehalo Can you nano Titans?
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2008.08.28 16:19:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 28/08/2008 16:22:43
Originally by: Tacyon Watched the op's vid.
That is by far the most pointless thing for an operation system. WITH ALL RESPECT, I don't know much about computers, but fancy, pointless, gimmicks won't trick me into getting linux. What'd I do with leaves moving on the background of the screen, or with motionblur?
Well, most of the hobbyist users likes to use a operating system that looks nice. Also its no coincidence that stuff like the Macbook Air or the Iphone sells so well. Its looks and effects. Under all that, its still basic hardware.
If you dont know much about computers, you are probably not very interested either.
The entire reason Windows got so popular is because of its looks and consistent user interface. People started using it, and the developers started making tools.
It always starts with the GUI.
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Originally by: Roguehalo Can you nano Titans?
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2008.08.29 18:19:00 -
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I can tell you that Ubuntu looks fantastic in 1900x1200. Got my 24" today... pretty incredible what a difference it makes. Also Eve with premium graphics at 1900x1200 = awesomeness. :)
Doesnt seem to be a linux driver for the Creative X-Fi sound cards though. There was some old beta that required a recompile of the kernel, and Ive made that mistake before on a friday night... spent the entire weekend trying to get things to work again.
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Originally by: Roguehalo Can you nano Titans?
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2008.08.30 11:33:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 30/08/2008 11:36:08
Originally by: CCP Tuxford
I simply downloaded the wubi installer and put it in the same directory as the iso image of ubuntu and it worked like a charm. Actually discarding the faulty cd problem then this has been the smoothest linux install for me,... almost takes the fun out of it
Its even smoother than Windows these days. You answer a few questions and the install is done. Its very refreshing to not get the Windows install experience with 60 minute waiting times during which relentless messages about how much Windows makes your life nirvana never stops coming.
You could argue that installing applications on Linux is also easier thanks to the package system. You dont need to know where a application is on the web. All you need is its name and then search for it in the GUI repository tool and select to install it. You dont have to care where it gets installed either.
I installed apache, php 5, mysql and wordpress on my computer in less than 5 minutes. And it just works. You could do the same on Windows by using the Wampserver though. However... installing IIS from the CD, followed by Microsoft SQL Server Express, then php, then wordpress... that takes a lot longer. Specially SQL Server takes forever. Its amusing since mysql takes 20 seconds. :)
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Originally by: Roguehalo Can you nano Titans?
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