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Titus Vulso
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.08.24 08:45:00 -
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Doesn't take a lot from a base install to have these effects, he has done some tweaks such as replacing the snow effect images with leaves though. And I don't really think his intention was to make it like Vista
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Titus Vulso
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.08.24 08:50:00 -
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Pic
Thats me running 3 eve premium clients on Ubuntu with compiz enabled. It's the expo effect, those desktops are all rendered real time. It also runs really well although there is obviously a performance hit running 3 clients with a compositing window manager enabled.
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Titus Vulso
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.08.24 08:58:00 -
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8800 GTS, so nothing fancy.
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Titus Vulso
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.08.24 09:17:00 -
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My advice would be to avoid the official linux client like the plague. I know CCP did it so they can say they officially support running Eve in a Linux environment but the windows client with Wine works so much better.
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Titus Vulso
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.08.24 10:51:00 -
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Yes of course they will work. Level of performance is another matter, I read that big improvements in the quality of their drivers have occurred in the last year or so. The last ATI card I purchased was about 5 years ago, due to their slipshod Linux support at the time.
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Titus Vulso
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.08.24 15:58:00 -
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There's also fusion-icon a handy little app which you can use to control compiz and its decorators from the panel tray. You can find it with synaptic or just enter sudo apt-get install fusion-icon at the terminal.
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Titus Vulso
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.08.25 23:21:00 -
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Annoing you'll get out of it, what you put in. Don't be put off thinking it's too difficult, it's not. As for games, if they're your main concern you really do have to wonder if Linux is the right thing for you. However, Wine can now run a lot if Windows games well, Eve for example as you can see in the pic I linked above. The wine site has a list of windows applications including games with information about how well they run. If you're interested in checking, google for "wine appdb".
ps. I tried the official eve client not long after it was released. Hated it, not being able to copy/paste between other apps, problem with the applications focus, no premium graphics and so on. Use the windows client with Wine.
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Titus Vulso
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.08.25 23:41:00 -
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Edited by: Titus Vulso on 25/08/2008 23:42:45 You don't sound stupid at all, I remember how I felt when first starting out. Linux has built up some great and very helpful communities, Ubuntu especially. If you go to ubuntuforums.org you can be sure that there are many people there eager to help you.
Oh and synaptic which comes installed with Ubuntu, is like a gui frontend for apt which will let you search and give you descriptions for all of the applications listed in your repos.
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Titus Vulso
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.08.26 00:19:00 -
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Edited by: Titus Vulso on 26/08/2008 00:19:44
Originally by: Tobias Sjodin The beryl-effects become old and disabled very quickly. And then ubuntu is just like windows except with poor application, driver, and game support.
I can't honestly comprehend why you would make this statement. It's called compiz fusion now after the two forked projects merged and whilst there are a lot of "fluff" plugins, some are very helpful especially the accessibility ones. It's worth remembering also that each effect is a plugin and can be activated/deactivated to your taste. As for application support, their are Linux alternatives to every windows applications that I used to use in windows. These applications are just as good if not better and free. Linux supports more hardware than windows ever will (we're not talking microsoft sidewinder joysticks here). As for games, I'll give you that.
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Titus Vulso
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.08.26 15:28:00 -
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Our experiences obviously differ vastly, I can't presume to tell you what your experiences with Linux operating systems have been like so I won't. As for Wine being a joke, if it is a joke how am I able to run an application such as Eve, with all of the specific windows features it employs, so well?
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Titus Vulso
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.08.26 15:31:00 -
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The point I'm trying to make is that it's well and good for you to make claims like Wine is a joke, but evidence provided in this very thread contradicts that, like the pic I posted earlier. So it casts doubt on your other claims.
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Titus Vulso
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.08.26 18:14:00 -
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Well whether you believe me or not is up to you. Running three premium clients is a bit of a stretch though it's still very playable despite a noticeable drop in performance. Running two clients I have no problems with whatsoever, which includes dual accounting during missions/fleets (I have two friends in game who have issues running two clients under windows). Other games I run regularly with good performance under wine include Guild Wars, Supreme Commander, Nexus and the source based Valve games. You seem hell bent on proving that Linux isn't a capable desktop platform, I remind you of your earlier post "The beryl-effects become old and disabled very quickly. And then ubuntu is just like windows except with poor application, driver, and game support.". I'm not trying to say that Linux is the best option for everyone, in fact I said to annoing it might not be best for him if his preference is to be able to play games. What I do want to point out is how inaccurate you are in making statements like "Wine is a joke".
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Titus Vulso
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.08.26 18:38:00 -
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I'll reiterate that my own experience is very different to yours. I don't use Photoshop, have no reason to. It seems to come up in almost every discussion about the usability of Linux. I never realised there where so many graphic designers out there . I'll agree to disagree with you in regards to Wine.
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Titus Vulso
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.08.26 20:38:00 -
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The discussion wandered somewhat. My original intention in this thread was to reassure anyone who was thinking of giving ubuntu or another distro a go, that it's not difficult and can produce good results in relation to running eve(this is the eve forums after all). I'm not trying to tell anyone what they should be using, apologies if it came across that way.
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