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Monkey Saturday
Knights of Chaos Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2008.08.27 17:27:00 -
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Originally by: Dorsa I've attempted to read through this, however the majority of it appears to be people regurgitating dislike for this change, so I've jumped ahead.
Has anyone thought of beyond this one tidbit of change? There's been long speculation that CCP was inventing a Roq high sec called Orca (or something of the like), couldn't it be that CCP could potentially be planning it's release and requires this one change to be performed beforehand?
Yeah its crossed my mind but tbh wouldn't a high-sec rorq variant um....be better at the whole mining dealy? Gang bonuses ore compression, big cargo hold...Surely a dread wouldn't be able to OUT MINE A MINING CAP now would it?
('course I haven't mined in over a year so who knows? )
Thanks for the Maulus BPO nerf! :D |
Oftherocks
Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.08.27 17:32:00 -
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If it were me, I'd create a new policy for Eve-files that bans any CCP employee from posting or using the web site in any way. I don't know if it is something you could enforce, but I am sure they'd get the message that they are *****s.
Honestly I feel bad for ya Chribba, and I hope someone pulls their head out of their ass and fixes this obvious boneheaded move.
Boooo CCP
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Salvo Seneca
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Posted - 2008.08.27 17:35:00 -
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Originally by: Monkey Saturday
Yeah its crossed my mind but tbh wouldn't a high-sec rorq variant um....be better at the whole mining dealy? Gang bonuses ore compression, big cargo hold...Surely a dread wouldn't be able to OUT MINE A MINING CAP now would it?
Umm... the Rorqual doesn't mine, so I'll give that one a "yes". Everything outmines the current mining support cap.
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Ricdics
Corporate Placement Holding
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Posted - 2008.08.27 17:35:00 -
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I doubt CCP removed this capability for no reason. Lets just wait and see what that reason is, it might actually make the "sky is falling" people wake up and see that there might be an upcoming change relevant to this movement.
Why would CCP go out of their way to move 10 or so specific people's ships for the hell of it? I am sure they have far better things to do.
My theory is that they have done this as a prelude to an upcoming change or they have done this due to some form of incident occurance. Whether either of these end up being valid or invalid reasons is currently yet to be determined.
So don't send me your stuff just yet, I am sure CCP will post some form of thread soon and it may well clear everything up. Probably the main point I "am" in agreeance with you guys is that more notice should have been provided.
Either way the end result would have been the same. A post here by Chribba, 50 pages of complaints and then an announcement. So lets wait and see what happens, the sky hasn't fallen just yet. |
Terminus adacai
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.08.27 17:35:00 -
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WOW!!!!
Removing the Veldnaught from Amarr has totally fixed lag in EVE!!!!!
Excellent move CCP!!!!!
Opinions reflected on my posts are just that, my opinions. They do not reflect views held by my corp or alliance. |
Zeba
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.08.27 17:35:00 -
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Awww man the Veldnaught got moved outta highsec? WTF why?!
BAAAAAD MOVE CCP.. BAAAAAAAD.
inappropriate signature. ~WeatherMan |
ElCoCo
KIA Corp KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.27 17:38:00 -
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Originally by: N1fty Nobody complained about it. Everything was fine and then CCP removed them without rhyme or reason. They just changed it for the sake of change.
Heh, I'm betting everything I have that at least some complained about it. People are just jealous m8. Boink! |
Monkey Saturday
Knights of Chaos Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2008.08.27 17:39:00 -
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Originally by: Salvo Seneca
Originally by: Monkey Saturday
Yeah its crossed my mind but tbh wouldn't a high-sec rorq variant um....be better at the whole mining dealy? Gang bonuses ore compression, big cargo hold...Surely a dread wouldn't be able to OUT MINE A MINING CAP now would it?
Umm... the Rorqual doesn't mine, so I'll give that one a "yes". Everything outmines the current mining support cap.
Cool thanks for the info then m8. Like I said I don't fly 'em, I just kill 'em.
Thanks for the Maulus BPO nerf! :D |
N1fty
Amarr Galactic Shipyards Inc HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2008.08.27 17:40:00 -
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Originally by: ElCoCo
Originally by: N1fty Nobody complained about it. Everything was fine and then CCP removed them without rhyme or reason. They just changed it for the sake of change.
Heh, I'm betting everything I have that at least some complained about it. People are just jealous m8.
Yeah ok, but there were no massive 50 page threads about how high sec dreads were 'Killing Eve'.
I think the fact that no reason or warning has been given is the real kicker here.
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HenkieBoy
Enrave Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2008.08.27 17:40:00 -
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There is only one reason I can think of. They are going to introduce a new mining laser that can be fitted on a new mining cap ship. But the problem is, that these can also be fitted on other caps which would make the dreads in highsec too good with mining. And because no dev is allowed to talk about this upcomming change we aren't seeing any CCP response in this topic.
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Doonoo Boonoo
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Posted - 2008.08.27 17:41:00 -
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Why?
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5pinDizzy
Amarr Umpteenth Podding
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Posted - 2008.08.27 17:41:00 -
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I don't blame any CCP Employee for not posting in this thread.
Bar a dozen or so thought out posts there's practically a mob of jackals ready to pounce on any poor CCP employee who happened to even try.
You've only yourselves to blame for no CCP response in this thread, if you weren't a bunch of flaming idiot banshees then maybe we'd be within 5 light years of an intelligent debate.
I'll admit I'm not a particular fan of Chribba, that doesn't mean I hate him or gives you right to play the worn out jealous card on me. Just that I never warmed to him.
Though even though I disagree with his OP in opinion at least he still manages to come off looking 10 times cleverer and more balanced in judgement then 90% of the posters in this thread.
I think he's right what he said a bit later on, I don't think most of you are helping his cause at all with your spamming.
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MailDeadDrop
Archon Industries
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Posted - 2008.08.27 17:45:00 -
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Originally by: HenkieBoy There is only one reason I can think of. They are going to introduce a new mining laser that can be fitted on a new mining cap ship. But the problem is, that these can also be fitted on other caps which would make the dreads in highsec too good with mining. And because no dev is allowed to talk about this upcomming change we aren't seeing any CCP response in this topic.
Yes, but such actions would be predicated on either: 1. CCP being too obtuse to recognize the outcry would be (and thus unprepared), 2. CCP recognizing the outcry but unable to prepare for it, or 3. CCP being too uncaring to prepare for the outcry.
I find #1 unlikely, and #2 and #3 too depressing to consider.
MDD Jump Clones: 8M and NO corp switching |
Schalac
Caldari Apocalypse Reign
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Posted - 2008.08.27 17:47:00 -
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SO let me get this straight. People are mad that they are no longer going to be allowed to keep their capital ships in high sec space. WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. I say good. Capitals are not historic icons. No one cares about seeing them and saying "oh nice ship" and they added no value to the game what so ever. They are tools of war and to keep them hidden away in high sec is useless.
And how is putting a capital ship where it can actually be used a nerf???
People have also payed billions for low sec caps and 0.0 caps, is that a shame for them as well? This thread makes no sense what so ever and I for one am glad that people that have high sec caps will now have to risk them in low sec if they want to fly them.
Or you can always sell them to me for a few hundred million since in your eyes they are now "plain useless"
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Terianna Eri
Amarr Scrutari
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Posted - 2008.08.27 17:47:00 -
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Originally by: 5pinDizzy I don't blame any CCP Employee for not posting in this thread.
Bar a dozen or so thought out posts there's practically a mob of jackals ready to pounce on any poor CCP employee who happened to even try.
You've only yourselves to blame for no CCP response in this thread, if you weren't a bunch of flaming idiot banshees then maybe we'd be within 5 light years of an intelligent debate.
I'll admit I'm not a particular fan of Chribba, that doesn't mean I hate him or gives you right to play the worn out jealous card on me. Just that I never warmed to him.
Though even though I disagree with his OP in opinion at least he still manages to come off looking 10 times cleverer and more balanced in judgement then 90% of the posters in this thread.
I think he's right what he said a bit later on, I don't think most of you are helping his cause at all with your spamming.
I would settle for "This was done by an inexperienced GM who was regrettably unaware of the identity of the Veldnaught, and of CCP's policy to leave the hisec caps as they are, barring any aggressive action by them. We are aware that the acting GM acted in violation of CCP's policy, and we are now correcting the error ."
This to be followed by the GM's post with something like "Holy shit, guys, what a way to start off my first day as a GM. My bad. [insert copy of mail sent to Chribba with something along the lines of "Your peaceful industrial dreadnaught has been returned to its location in Amarr VI - Oris - Amarr Navy Assembly Plant" (or whatever it is)]"
That'd be good and tbh would nicely resolve it for me. I wouldn't have this nagging feeling of "maybe I should set CS V training and let it go for a month... or longer..." __________________________________ CCP, WTH?
Originally by: Arthur Frayn How much to ruin all your holes, luv?
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aka Ishur
Stormwolf Holdings LLC Elite Trade Group
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Posted - 2008.08.27 17:51:00 -
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Originally by: HenkieBoy There is only one reason I can think of. They are going to introduce a new mining laser that can be fitted on a new mining cap ship. But the problem is, that these can also be fitted on other caps which would make the dreads in highsec too good with mining. And because no dev is allowed to talk about this upcomming change we aren't seeing any CCP response in this topic.
There are plenty of ship -specific modules (covops cloak comes to mind) plus i doubt ccp would so radically change the rorqual's role without even a hint. I think most people hate what ccp have done because
a) it was done without warning.
b) it was done without any apparent reason.
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HenkieBoy
Enrave Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2008.08.27 17:52:00 -
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Read the CCP interview.. they are going to release a industrial expansion in december with possible new industrial ship.. I doubt they will change the rorq ;)
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Joe Starbreaker
Starbreaker Frigateers
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Posted - 2008.08.27 17:52:00 -
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Probably had to do it because of some change they're making to the basic code. Sucks, though. They should have given you 24 hours notice so you could have committed a dramatic suicide with it, or something.
Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto All piracy is built upon honoring one's word.
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gordon861
Minmatar PROGENITOR CORPORATION Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.08.27 17:53:00 -
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/Signed ... bring back the Veldnaught
Has CCP even bothered to respond yet ?
CCP Mitnal has already locked another thread referring to this one, but seems to not have the bottle to post directly in this one.
Perhaps this means we can expect a return to the old ways, let people post a long thread and when it quietens down a bit just delete the thread. Problem solved.
Originally by: CCP Arkanon I frown on employees being power players to the extent that their gameplay results in any sort of domination over others. I donĘt believe CCP employees should run the EVE universe. |
bnogo
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.08.27 17:55:00 -
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so i finally wake back up to see no response from the devs on this. saddening really.
then i flip through some of these new pages to read that not all caps have been moved.
and the sadness and disappointment fade.
and the anger begins.
wtf ccp, wtf.........
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Barbicane
TGUN Industries
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Posted - 2008.08.27 17:58:00 -
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Please CCP, don't fall back to your old ways of treating the player base like an unintelligent mob. You should have learned by now that the correct way dealing with this type of issue is:
1) INFORMATION 2) ACTION
Not the other way around.
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aka Ishur
Stormwolf Holdings LLC Elite Trade Group
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Posted - 2008.08.27 17:58:00 -
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Edited by: aka Ishur on 27/08/2008 17:58:32 There's also the fact that the forum mods (Mitnal et al.) have locked several other threads yet failed to even reply in this one. It must be some statement that it takes this long to prepare.
edit: oops gordon just said what i said
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Drebble
Gallente North Star Networks Black Hand.
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Posted - 2008.08.27 17:59:00 -
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Originally by: Aurore Delilah Ok, Reading the thread more carefully i have to say WTF?
So apparently CCP has in fact NOT moved all high sec capitals, They've moved the veldnaught, While allowing the others (As stated by two other high sec cap owners in this thread, Their caps remain in high sec) to stay.
I used to simply think "Errr... Why do something pointless that benefits noone and ultimately only serves to remove some of the few unique items in the game"
Now however i wonder why CCP has decided that Chribba in particular shouldn't be allowed a high sec cap...
QFE
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Atlas Oracle
Minmatar Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2008.08.27 18:03:00 -
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put it back
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gordon861
Minmatar PROGENITOR CORPORATION Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.08.27 18:05:00 -
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Did I hear someone mention that someone attempted to suicide the Veldnaught recently ?
If so what might have happened is the 'victim' of Concord may have petitioned it saying that the ship was used in combat. A new inexperienced GM gets the petition, looks at the logs and says OK and moves it to lowsec.
Come on CCP respond to the thread please....
Originally by: CCP Arkanon I frown on employees being power players to the extent that their gameplay results in any sort of domination over others. I donĘt believe CCP employees should run the EVE universe. |
Great Artista
Caldari Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.08.27 18:06:00 -
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27 pages of nothing but CCP dissing.
They really ****ed up this time. _______
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2008.08.27 18:07:00 -
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Tsiros
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.08.27 18:08:00 -
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question is: who from CCP will have the ''balls'' to come out and say 'yes we made a mistake'.
should they change opinion now, will be a sign that they make mistakes and peoples views/opinion will be taken into consideration in the future.
p.s yes i want it back in Empire
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Ricdics
Corporate Placement Holding
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Posted - 2008.08.27 18:08:00 -
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Edited by: Ricdics on 27/08/2008 18:09:32
Originally by: aka Ishur There's also the fact that the forum mods (Mitnal et al.) have locked several other threads yet failed to even reply in this one. It must be some statement that it takes this long to prepare.
I work in the customer service industry myself. When something like this occurs and gets this level of response/publicity there are specific individuals who speak on the subject. If a forum mod repeats something he overheard that turns out to be incorrect it causes a mass of confusion.
It's far better for the correct CCP representative to understand precisely why the change took place and how to handle some of the comments in here before posting away.
Anyone with gold bars and anything less than 100% understanding of the situation should not be posting here at all (in regards to the issue ofc). Just wait, it's only a matter of time. |
JoDan Troikian
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Posted - 2008.08.27 18:09:00 -
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Edited by: JoDan Troikian on 27/08/2008 18:10:41 I have seen Chribba in Amarr mining in his veldnaught before, and tbh, it was the first dread that I ever saw. I understand the trolls refering to the fact that caps are not allowed in hi-sec and no exceptions should be made. I also think that their responses have been answered in regards to all of the hi sec caps were given specific rules and violation of them would have been dealt with them harshly and swiftly. I would hope that all the hisec caps that were operating under the premise that they were already operating under, should be allowed to stay. A case could be made that if one of these players sold his/her account, that the new owner would violate these terms. I don't think that however would be reason enough not to allow them to continue however. Chribba's presence amongst the eve population makes this a better experience for everyone. The fact that he has a cap in hisec really has nothing to do with this. Also, the fact that players paid billions to gain a cap in hisec really is irrelevant to the debate as well. In closing, CCP restore the caps that ALREADY existed in hisec, as you had a "gentleman's" agreement with these players, and they did indeed enrich many young players experience, not just mine.
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