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Pteranodon
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Posted - 2008.08.29 12:47:00 -
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I see none consenting PVP as ****-a hostile attack. Let us face facts. You do not have to be a pirate to work out that if a attacks b & b don't like it he has no choice other than to fight & run or loose his precious CNR.
War however is different-lots of people did not want to go to war but they did it out of a sense of duty & as you all know it goes on for real even now.
I think the choice of how you play needs to be much more clearly defined. I think CCP would be better at putting in a few 100 new systems where carebears can run missions or mine without fear of attack but the missions need to be much harder. If you leave the carebear systems then it is open season. I think a simple way to keep the carebear systems safe is that you can't commit a hostile act toward a fellow player in a pre defined carebear system.
I think in time Eve will be heading this way. I was talking to a friend of mine-a Policeman & his view-which could be echoed here is that he has no problem with criminals doing what they do provided that they don't get get innocent people involved in there activities. If 2 pirates want to slug it out that is fine but leave innocent joe out of it.
I have no views in either bias. If I go to low sec & get blown up-which happens a lot-I don't whine at my attacker I just shrug my shoulders & move on.
Perhaps we need a utopia to keep both camps happy.
War in the carbear systems no- as it moves back to a big grey area. Corps at war cant enter the carebear systems & anybody in a carebear system whose corp is at war is not allowed to fight even if flagged as hostile.
It is only an idea so flame for all you like but remember we could be getting something like this in nthe future.
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Pteranodon
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Posted - 2008.08.29 13:05:00 -
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Edited by: Pteranodon on 29/08/2008 13:08:55 Interesting. A hostile response. Not unexpected really. If you read my post properly & don't jump on your soapbox I said I'm not biased either way. I see both sides of the arguement & whether you like it or not provision is coming-even if it is slow to cateer for people who don't want to fight.
You want to fight & that is fine but don't force people who don't want to fight. If you want to slug it out with your fellows that is excellent but If I dont want to slug it out then dont make me. I pay my subscription to CCP & my opinion does count as does yours & you would do well to remember that and be more courteous to balanced argument.
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Pteranodon
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Posted - 2008.08.29 13:12:00 -
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Edited by: Pteranodon on 29/08/2008 13:13:12
Originally by: Hammerfall Ceo This thread is fail. This game is PVPONLINE!
Well. It used to be-but times change & we will need to consider adapting.
Consider mission running, Industry, salvaging-it's not just PVP fighting
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Pteranodon
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Posted - 2008.08.29 13:21:00 -
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I respect your opinions. It is a pity you dont respect mine. I am saying that there is a place in Eve to cater for every camp. If I want to mine & build my own private empire in peace I should be allowed to.
Keep you war mongering in unsafe regions amongst your like mined fellows & all is fine. I'm not saying you cant fight but just do it on your own turf with people who want to fight.
No-I've never subscribed to Steam or WOW so that comment is somwhat lame. I did read CCP's small print to some extent but missed the bit that said I could be shafted by somebody with 4 years experience versus my 9 months in the game.
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Pteranodon
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Posted - 2008.08.29 13:31:00 -
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Originally by: Tchell Dahhn
Originally by: Pteranodon If I want to mine & build my own private empire in peace I should be allowed to.
I believe that this is where you are mistaken. CCP has stated that Highsec is not meant to be "safe", only safer than Lowsec.
You are not exempt from being put upon by those who want the same things for themselves. Think about this - what makes your own private empire immune from those who want to claim your space for their own?
You say you want to amass a great wealth and fortune, and do it in relative safety? You have that, it's called Empire Space. You say you want to do it, without the risk of anyone taking it from you? I'm sorry, but that's not EvE.
.....but it will be in the future....just you wait
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Pteranodon
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Posted - 2008.08.29 13:44:00 -
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Originally by: Temujin Ambaghai Eve is at WAR!!! all of eve not just fw, if you're amarr you're friends with caldari and hate minmitards and gallente, etc etc. it is a ROLE PLAYING GAME. if you want to live a peaceful existence i'm sorry, but eve is meant to resemble a real world model with all kinds of people. that means you get your bad apples in your "safe place". sure you get punished for your actions, you lose a ship, i'm all for having some stricter rules on suicide ganking, like make insurance on a ship that suicides in high sec void, so that people aren't just randomly blowing stuff up, but if it's worth it they can still go for it, like any crime there needs to be sacrifice, but if the reward is worth it go for it.
but really... making places where you just can't be attacked destroys the entire idea behind eve, which is realism, anything can happen anywhere, just be aware of the consequences. so mister uber carebear that wants to "create his own little empire" please... learn what the game is about or gtfo
Good for you
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Pteranodon
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Posted - 2008.08.29 14:09:00 -
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Originally by: Nexus Kinnon Pteranodon, I have to echo what an above poster said, the day EVE becomes what you want, is the day it dies.
But you said it diplomatically the other guy said it like a t**t
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Pteranodon
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Posted - 2008.08.29 14:16:00 -
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Originally by: Tchell Dahhn
Originally by: Pteranodon .....but it will be in the future....just you wait
If you're going to give blanket statements such as this, I have to ask you for proof. So, to put it bluntly, "put up or shut up."
Carebears make up a very big part of Eve & if you ask most of them don't want to have there assets stolen-I know I don't. There voices are being heard & slowly we will see the changes & what is so bad about 2 areas of Eve-It is not as if you have to change anything. If you don't like carebears land don't go there-I don't like PVP much but I'm forced into it.
Did you honestly think I wanted to train PVP ships. The reason I'm useless at PVP is that my heart is not in it & to be sucessful at anything you have to have a heart.
I don't care if you agree or not but slowly changes are coming & if you don't like it you may be one of those who might wish to do something else.
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Pteranodon
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Posted - 2008.08.29 14:19:00 -
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Originally by: Maximillian Bayonette
Originally by: Pteranodon
.....but it will be in the future....just you wait
The day Eve becomes what you want it to become is the day it dies.
Not really. People like you will just leave. There will always be an Eve.
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Pteranodon
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Posted - 2008.09.01 10:47:00 -
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Where is your highsec pos at? Me and a few friends would like to touch it.
We don't have a high sec pos we operate in 0.0 space-so we will see you there. |
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