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Evanade Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.30 08:31:00 - [31] Edited by: Evanade on 30/08/2008 08:40:28 Actually not. He's talking about a big fleet for support, which makes his localtank irrelevant, and his rr capabilities much needed. RR takes lots of cap, so best fit for it. Originally by: Wil Smithx Originally by: Evanade get rid of one rep and fit a cpr, you need alot more cap to sustain the rr Did you read this whole thread at all?! and damn thats a bad idea, you will get taken down by a single BS, you need to be able to tank a ***ing lot more than that. By your train of thoughts, a dualrep setup could be killed by two* battleships..ohnoes! You are radiating lethal doses of inexperience in all directions. Yes i did read the whole thread, i even made recommendations earlier on that were ignored by all of you, and if you knew me you'd know why probably shouldn't have. --------------------------- sok alt - main got banzored
Car Wars Shinra	Posted - 2008.08.30 10:06:00 - [32] Originally by: Evanade You are radiating lethal doses of inexperience in all directions.
XEN0CIDE Interstellar Xenocide	Posted - 2008.08.30 11:16:00 - [33] You need a Damage Control because like Amarr, Gallente do have some buffer in Structure. So this may allow you to jump out. I personnally dont use a Thanatos because a Moros is just so much better. Get a Moros. 5 Orge II with 200% Drone Bonus =
Boobiencia Gallente	Posted - 2008.08.30 11:37:00 - [34] Originally by: XEN0CIDE You need a Damage Control because like Amarr, Gallente do have some buffer in Structure. So this may allow you to jump out. I personnally dont use a Thanatos because a Moros is just so much better. Get a Moros. 5 Orge II with 200% Drone Bonus = yep, moros is great at RR stuff Sig removed, inappropriate content. Signature graphics may only contain your character name, corporation logo, corporation or personal slogan or other text that is directly related to your in-game persona, or content directly related to EVE Online. All content must be in good taste ~Saint
Evanade Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.30 13:37:00 - [35] Originally by: XEN0CIDE You need a Damage Control because like Amarr, Gallente do have some buffer in Structure. So this may allow you to jump out. I personnally dont use a Thanatos because a Moros is just so much better. Get a Moros. 5 Orge II with 200% Drone Bonus = This just in, carriers primary role is not dps. --------------------------- sok alt - main got banzored
Atsuko Ratu Caldari VSP Corp.	Posted - 2008.08.30 13:45:00 - [36] Originally by: whisk as i said, rather have anotehr RR then SB since you not gonna have drones on you unless you r being primaried, and if you are, sb not gonna save you... But the 3rd RR will help a lot, right? SB reduces dps, a ton of it if you are fighting sub-cap ships. while your falcon pilot warps off in a pod, baffled at why his FC Borat can't learn to not pyramid-quote.
whisk The Movement	Posted - 2008.08.30 13:46:00 - [37] Originally by: Atsuko Ratu Originally by: whisk as i said, rather have anotehr RR then SB since you not gonna have drones on you unless you r being primaried, and if you are, sb not gonna save you... But the 3rd RR will help a lot, right? SB reduces dps, a ton of it if you are fighting sub-cap ships. for the main job carrier made for? yes fail attempt to troll Adapt or Die
Evanade Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.30 14:22:00 - [38] Third rr on thanatos is possible, for example 2x armor 1x shield, but you will need to gear the entire fit for maximum cap recharge to sustain them for any reasonable amount of time. No use for a third repper when you cap out after three minutes. --------------------------- sok alt - main got banzored
Kuzya Morozov Gallente L8L8L8	Posted - 2008.08.30 16:08:00 - [39] this thread fails :(
Kusariqqu Gallente CCCP INC	Posted - 2008.08.30 17:36:00 - [40] This is how i would set mine up [High] Large Smartbomb, most likly faction Drone Control Unit Drone Control Unit Capital Shield Transfer Capital Armor Transfer [Mids] Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Sensor Booster II [Lows] Capital Armor Rep Capital Armor Rep Amarr navy EANM Amarr Navy EANM Amarr Navy EANM [Rigs] Semiconductor memory cell Semiconductor memory cell Semiconductor memory cell With compensations to 5 you get 80.6/74.8/74.8/65.1 a little low on exp but only phoenix's can deal alot of that due to having torps. But your smart bomb will knock them out of the sky. And the memory cells give you a massive 114066 cap, so under neuts it will perform better that having CCC's in there. Cap Stable with both reps running and the smartbomb, With the thanatos been the best damage dealer cap ship id use the control units rather than the neuts, like you said your running in a fleet so the fighters will be more effective than the neuts. Reason i run with one of each rep is you have no idea what will happen, theres been many cases were you fit both of the same and end up needing the one you dont have. 1 shield n 1 armor will easy keep your buddies alive.
Larkonis Trassler Neo Spartans	Posted - 2008.08.30 18:31:00 - [41] Edited by: Larkonis Trassler on 30/08/2008 18:32:08 Originally by: Kusariqqu This is how i would set mine up [High] Large Smartbomb, most likly faction Drone Control Unit Drone Control Unit Capital Shield Transfer Capital Armor Transfer [Mids] Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Sensor Booster II [Lows] Capital Armor Rep Capital Armor Rep Amarr navy EANM Amarr Navy EANM Amarr Navy EANM [Rigs] Semiconductor memory cell Semiconductor memory cell Semiconductor memory cell With compensations to 5 you get 80.6/74.8/74.8/65.1 a little low on exp but only phoenix's can deal alot of that due to having torps. But your smart bomb will knock them out of the sky. And the memory cells give you a massive 114066 cap, so under neuts it will perform better that having CCC's in there. Cap Stable with both reps running and the smartbomb, With the thanatos been the best damage dealer cap ship id use the control units rather than the neuts, like you said your running in a fleet so the fighters will be more effective than the neuts. Reason i run with one of each rep is you have no idea what will happen, theres been many cases were you fit both of the same and end up needing the one you dont have. 1 shield n 1 armor will easy keep your buddies alive. Get out. DCUs on a carrier are for failures who think their primary role is DPS. Neuts help you out far more than DCUs ever will. No point in having that extra DPS if that dread can permarun it's reppers or you can't break a capital spider tank. Highs on a thanny should be: 1-2 Armour RR 0-1 Shield RR 1-2 Smartbomb 1-2 Heavy Neut. Assumption of Risk
Kusariqqu Gallente CCCP INC	Posted - 2008.08.30 19:19:00 - [42] Edited by: Kusariqqu on 30/08/2008 19:24:51 Sorry mate but which carrier pilot in there right mind engages a dreadnought alone?? no 1 idiot. If you have fighters 5 which i do and carrier 5 the extra DPS is a nice bonus but i would only recomed on a thanaots. And shit ever herd of 12 neut drones??? thats 300 neut capacity every 6 seconds and they cycle 4 times in the time it takes for the hvys to cycle once and doing thr extact same amount. That will mess up that perrun dread u like to freely enage.
Larkonis Trassler Neo Spartans	Posted - 2008.08.30 19:55:00 - [43] Originally by: Kusariqqu Edited by: Kusariqqu on 30/08/2008 19:24:51 Sorry mate but which carrier pilot in there right mind engages a dreadnought alone?? no 1 idiot. If you have fighters 5 which i do and carrier 5 the extra DPS is a nice bonus but i would only recomed on a thanaots. And shit ever herd of 12 neut drones??? thats 300 neut capacity every 6 seconds and they cycle 4 times in the time it takes for the hvys to cycle once and doing thr extact same amount. That will mess up that perrun dread u like to freely enage. I obviously don't engage dreads solo with my carrier. But with a small gang extra neutage makes all the difference. Also, you can keep fighters and a heavy neut on a target at the same time as opposed to just heavy neut drones. Having a 30km neut on my carrier has saved me more often than it's hurt me. I'd rather have the ability to nuke cap and do DPS than do a little bit extra neuting or a little bit extra dps. I seriously wish I hadn't trained up ADI to 4. Assumption of Risk
Captator Universal Securities	Posted - 2008.08.30 20:32:00 - [44] Coming back to the shield tank idea, this is better than any posted so far - stable with either local booster, shield transporter, or rem armour rep running. [Thanatos, shield tank] Damage Control II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II True Sansha Capacitor Power Relay True Sansha Capacitor Power Relay Capital Shield Booster I Shield Boost Amplifier II Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Invulnerability Field II Photon Scattering Field II Capital Shield Transporter I Capital Remote Armor Repair System I True Sansha Heavy Energy Neutralizer Republic Fleet Large Proton Smartbomb True Sansha Heavy Energy Neutralizer Capacitor Control Circuit II Capacitor Control Circuit II Capacitor Control Circuit I The CN invul is due to cpu, can add in an implant for cpu/cpu use to make it fit with all t2.
Evanade Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.30 20:40:00 - [45] Shield tank on a thanny is possible but not really realistic. The guy who advocated drone control units in his highslots obviously has no clue on how to use carriers. --------------------------- sok alt - main got banzored
Evanade Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.30 20:41:00 - [46] Originally by: Kusariqqu Edited by: Kusariqqu on 30/08/2008 19:24:51 Sorry mate but which carrier pilot in there right mind engages a dreadnought alone?? no 1 idiot. If you have fighters 5 which i do and carrier 5 the extra DPS is a nice bonus but i would only recomed on a thanaots. And shit ever herd of 12 neut drones??? thats 300 neut capacity every 6 seconds and they cycle 4 times in the time it takes for the hvys to cycle once and doing thr extact same amount. That will mess up that perrun dread u like to freely enage. You have no clue, do you? Carrier dps is totally insignificant and the setup you proposed does not have the cap needed to perform it's primary role, logistics. --------------------------- sok alt - main got banzored
Kusariqqu Gallente CCCP INC	Posted - 2008.08.30 21:18:00 - [47] Edited by: Kusariqqu on 30/08/2008 21:19:26 Originally by: Evanade Originally by: Kusariqqu Edited by: Kusariqqu on 30/08/2008 19:24:51 Sorry mate but which carrier pilot in there right mind engages a dreadnought alone?? no 1 idiot. If you have fighters 5 which i do and carrier 5 the extra DPS is a nice bonus but i would only recomed on a thanaots. And shit ever herd of 12 neut drones??? thats 300 neut capacity every 6 seconds and they cycle 4 times in the time it takes for the hvys to cycle once and doing thr extact same amount. That will mess up that perrun dread u like to freely enage. You have no clue, do you? Carrier dps is totally insignificant and the setup you proposed does not have the cap needed to perform it's primary role, logistics. How can you say the setup doesnt perform its primary role?? Its cap stable with the logistic mods running, only differnce is the fact i use Drone controls insted of neuts? Logisticly wise the setup is exactly the same as all the other posts on this thread. And seen as i mensioned before i use nuet drones the setup im using is more cap stable than the CCC setup cos i dont use cap running the neuts.
Liang Nuren Perkone	Posted - 2008.08.30 21:21:00 - [48] Originally by: Kusariqqu And shit ever herd of 12 neut drones??? thats 300 neut capacity every 6 seconds and they cycle 4 times in the time it takes for the hvys to cycle once and doing thr extact same amount. That will mess up that perrun dread u like to freely enage. I tried out neut drones in capital fights on Armageddon day. I led a squadron of 4 carriers and a dread... AFACT neut drones had no real effect on cap fights. -Liang -- I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent. -- Mahatma Gandhi
Evanade Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.30 21:23:00 - [49] You could fit a third rr and be 50% more useful to your fleet. DCU's are fail and have no place on a pvp carrier. You will also need additional cap over 'permarunning' because it will often be at less then optimal after you've just jumped, or when you are being neuted. You also want a damage control for the additiona HP and ditch the second repper for a CPR. --------------------------- sok alt - main got banzored
Evanade Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.30 21:29:00 - [50] An addiotional fail is the fact that you used smc's on a cap ship. You want both a quick recharge alot of recharge, and in both cases, ccc's fare better. 'Buffer' cap has little use on capital ships. --------------------------- sok alt - main got banzored
Atsuko Ratu Caldari VSP Corp.	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:05:00 - [51] Originally by: whisk for the main job carrier made for? yes fail attempt to troll Gotta admit, I was prepared to handle a well thought out and math assisted post on why 10 carriers, all with 3 RR instead of 2 RR and a SB, would be more effective at reducing damage. You disappointed me epically.
Evanade Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.31 08:30:00 - [52] Originally by: Atsuko Ratu Originally by: whisk for the main job carrier made for? yes fail attempt to troll Gotta admit, I was prepared to handle a well thought out and math assisted post on why 10 carriers, all with 3 RR instead of 2 RR and a SB, would be more effective at reducing damage. You disappointed me epically. you expect too much from people ;) --------------------------- sok alt - main got banzored
Felix Dzerzhinsky Caldari Wreckless Abandon Un-Natural Selection	Posted - 2008.08.31 13:56:00 - [53] Originally by: Evanade You could fit a third rr and be 50% more useful to your fleet. DCU's are fail and have no place on a pvp carrier. While I agree that for Amarr and Caldari the best option is to not fit a DCU and to strengthen your primary form of defense (Armor and Shield respectivly) - for Gallente and Minmatar, the amount of structure is so high (Gallente) and the tank is so weak (Minmatar) not to mention the overall balance of shield, armor and structure ammounts for both ships is quite balanced - making the DCU a very viable mod to fit. For the most part though, I agree. ---- GO BLUE!!
whisk The Movement	Posted - 2008.08.31 13:57:00 - [54] Originally by: Felix Dzerzhinsky Originally by: Evanade You could fit a third rr and be 50% more useful to your fleet. DCU's are fail and have no place on a pvp carrier. While I agree that for Amarr and Caldari the best option is to not fit a DCU and to strengthen your primary form of defense (Armor and Shield respectivly) - for Gallente and Minmatar, the amount of structure is so high (Gallente) and the tank is so weak (Minmatar) not to mention the overall balance of shield, armor and structure ammounts for both ships is quite balanced - making the DCU a very viable mod to fit. For the most part though, I agree. Drone Control Unit Adapt or Die
fkingfurious	Posted - 2008.08.31 14:14:00 - [55] The DCU thing all depends on what else you're fitting. 3x EANM II DOES NOT give you better armor resists than 2x EANM II and 1x DCU II. It's all down to the stacking. So assuming you want to use Tech II, 2x eanm +dcu is the way to go. If you're using faction 3x eanm will be better, but only just.
Evanade Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.31 16:18:00 - [56] Edited by: Evanade on 31/08/2008 16:27:41 drone control is fail, damage control is mandatory on nid/thanny/archon --------------------------- sok alt - main got banzored
Atsuko Ratu Caldari VSP Corp.	Posted - 2008.08.31 16:22:00 - [57] I fit my Thanatos with the following: 6x Shield Power Relay 5x Shield Recharger 5x DCU 3x Shield Purger rigs
Evanade Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.31 16:30:00 - [58] Originally by: Atsuko Ratu I fit my Thanatos with the following: 6x Shield Power Relay 5x Shield Recharger 5x DCU 3x Shield Purger rigs lol lol troll troll --------------------------- sok alt - main got banzored
whisk The Movement	Posted - 2008.08.31 16:59:00 - [59] Originally by: Atsuko Ratu I fit my Thanatos with the following: 6x Shield Power Relay 5x Shield Recharger 5x DCU 3x Shield Purger rigs VSP Corp still alife?:D veronica still play? used to be in the corp like 4 years ago! Adapt or Die
Atsuko Ratu Caldari VSP Corp.	Posted - 2008.08.31 17:42:00 - [60] Edited by: Atsuko Ratu on 31/08/2008 17:44:40 Edited by: Atsuko Ratu on 31/08/2008 17:43:59 Originally by: whisk VSP Corp still alife?:D veronica still play? used to be in the corp like 4 years ago! Yes and yes, off and on Edit: Sok alt, what what?

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