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Evanade Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.31 17:55:00 - [61] Edited by: Evanade on 31/08/2008 17:55:01 Originally by: Atsuko Ratu Edit: Sok alt, what what? i got banned for laughing at nc hypocrisy on coad ^^ --------------------------- sok alt - main got banzored
Atsuko Ratu Caldari VSP Corp.	Posted - 2008.08.31 18:00:00 - [62] Originally by: Evanade Edited by: Evanade on 31/08/2008 17:55:01 Originally by: Atsuko Ratu Edit: Sok alt, what what? i got banned for laughing at nc hypocrisy on coad ^^ lols, for how long?
Evanade Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.31 18:03:00 - [63] Edited by: Evanade on 31/08/2008 18:05:04 20 more days after bob smoked three nc motherships that were sieging a pos of ours, some nc guy posted this: ''There s no need for smack. It is natural for weaker entities to group up in order to try and defeat a stronger, more powerful enemy. It s flattering really.'' so i was liek 'LAWL' and posted that a few times too many :P --------------------------- sok alt - main got banzored
whisk The Movement	Posted - 2008.08.31 18:15:00 - [64] Edited by: whisk on 31/08/2008 18:15:20 Originally by: Atsuko Ratu Edited by: Atsuko Ratu on 31/08/2008 17:44:40 Edited by: Atsuko Ratu on 31/08/2008 17:43:59 Originally by: whisk VSP Corp still alife?:D veronica still play? used to be in the corp like 4 years ago! Yes and yes, off and on Edit: Sok alt, what what? say hi to him from Bad'Boy :P Adapt or Die
Cheenie	Posted - 2008.08.31 18:27:00 - [65] Lol Sokratesz is like the worst person to listen to on Capital Fits, argues stupid points against people that have more experience than him along with completly turncoating on opinions like rigs on Dreads, lol @ arguing against all the experienced Dread pilots telling them to use 3 CCC's cus you can totally tank 30 Dreads shooting you better with 3 CCC's than 3 Trimarks.
Evanade Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.31 18:33:00 - [66] Edited by: Evanade on 31/08/2008 18:35:30 Originally by: Cheenie Lol Sokratesz is like the worst person to listen to on Capital Fits, argues stupid points against people that have more experience than him along with completly turncoating on opinions like rigs on Dreads, lol @ arguing against all the experienced Dread pilots telling them to use 3 CCC's cus you can totally tank 30 Dreads shooting you better with 3 CCC's than 3 Trimarks. You must not have followed me for quite some time I admit that my initial take on dreads (phoenix, mostly) turned out not to be the 'best' when it comes to large scale warfare but it still has some merit in other circumstances. You can thank Ms. Palli from BDCI for educating me on these matter. --------------------------- sok alt - main got banzored
Cheenie	Posted - 2008.08.31 18:34:00 - [67] You post in every capital thread that exists, the forum's bored of you and your changing opinions.
Evanade Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.31 18:53:00 - [68] Originally by: Cheenie You post in every capital thread that exists, the forum's bored of you and your changing opinions. i guess the massive outcry against me mustve helped then, cause i got banned --------------------------- sok alt - main got banzored
Liang Nuren Perkone	Posted - 2008.08.31 19:21:00 - [69] Originally by: Cheenie Lol Sokratesz is like the worst person to listen to on Capital Fits, argues stupid points against people that have more experience than him along with completly turncoating on opinions like rigs on Dreads, lol @ arguing against all the experienced Dread pilots telling them to use 3 CCC's cus you can totally tank 30 Dreads shooting you better with 3 CCC's than 3 Trimarks. Nobody's going to tank 30 dreads. It's unpossible. For a quick math lesson: [Revelation, EHP Rev] Cormack's Modified Armor EM Hardener Cormack's Modified Armor Thermic Hardener Cormack's Modified Armor Kinetic Hardener Cormack's Modified Armor Explosive Hardener Damage Control II Cormack's Modified Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Cormack's Modified Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Capital Armor Repairer I Chelm's Modified Cap Recharger Chelm's Modified Cap Recharger Cormack's Modified Tracking Computer, Tracking Speed Cormack's Modified Tracking Computer, Tracking Speed Dual Giga Beam Laser I, Multifrequency XL Dual Giga Beam Laser I, Multifrequency XL Dual Giga Beam Laser I, Multifrequency XL Siege Module I Trimark Armor Pump II Trimark Armor Pump II Trimark Armor Pump II Bouncer II x5 For the full effect, we'll toss in a HG snake set, a damnation, and overheat the hardeners/rep. You end up with 13,468,947.0 eff HP and you can tank 7095 DPS for 5 minutes. Mins to end of Siege \| DPS required to pop 1 \| 231577.450000 2 \| 119336.225000 3 \| 81922.483333 4 \| 63215.612500 5 \| 51991.490000 6 \| 37413.741667 7 \| 32068.921429 8 \| 28060.306250 9 \| 24942.494444 10 \| 22448.245000 Now, let's conservatively estimate that your opponents deal 3000 DPS/dread (90K DPS for 30 dreads). This means that even the best case for a trimarked dread falls short at just under 3 minutes left in siege. For the curious, a T2/minor faction Rev would generally be primaried and popped in under a minute. Of course, all this to say that the bulk of my capital fighting experience has not included being primaried by 30 dreads at a time. ;-) -Liang -- I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent. -- Mahatma Gandhi
Cheenie	Posted - 2008.09.01 00:46:00 - [70] Originally by: Liang Nuren Edited by: Liang Nuren on 31/08/2008 19:35:52 Originally by: Cheenie Lol Sokratesz is like the worst person to listen to on Capital Fits, argues stupid points against people that have more experience than him along with completly turncoating on opinions like rigs on Dreads, lol @ arguing against all the experienced Dread pilots telling them to use 3 CCC's cus you can totally tank 30 Dreads shooting you better with 3 CCC's than 3 Trimarks. Nobody's going to tank 30 dreads. It's unpossible. For a quick math lesson: [Revelation, EHP Rev] Cormack's Modified Armor EM Hardener Cormack's Modified Armor Thermic Hardener Cormack's Modified Armor Kinetic Hardener Cormack's Modified Armor Explosive Hardener Damage Control II Cormack's Modified Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Cormack's Modified Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Capital Armor Repairer I Chelm's Modified Cap Recharger Chelm's Modified Cap Recharger Cormack's Modified Tracking Computer, Tracking Speed Cormack's Modified Tracking Computer, Tracking Speed Dual Giga Beam Laser I, Multifrequency XL Dual Giga Beam Laser I, Multifrequency XL Dual Giga Beam Laser I, Multifrequency XL Siege Module I Trimark Armor Pump II Trimark Armor Pump II Trimark Armor Pump II Bouncer II x5 For the full effect, we'll toss in a HG slave set, a damnation, and overheat the hardeners/rep. You end up with 13,468,947.0 eff HP and you can tank 7095 DPS for 5 minutes. Mins to end of Siege \| DPS required to pop 1 \| 231577.450000 2 \| 119336.225000 3 \| 81922.483333 4 \| 63215.612500 5 \| 51991.490000 6 \| 37413.741667 7 \| 32068.921429 8 \| 28060.306250 9 \| 24942.494444 10 \| 22448.245000 Now, let's conservatively estimate that your opponents deal 3000 DPS/dread (90K DPS for 30 dreads). This means that even the best case for a trimarked dread falls short at just under 3 minutes left in siege. For the curious, a T2/minor faction Rev would generally be primaried and popped in under a minute. Of course, all this to say that the bulk of my capital fighting experience has not included being primaried by 30 dreads at a time. ;-) -Liang Ed: Did I say Snake? I meant Slave. Snakes usually come to mind when I think of going for the extremes. Leave the basement.
Atsuko Ratu Caldari VSP Corp.	Posted - 2008.09.01 00:59:00 - [71] Was worth quoting all that for nothing
Liang Nuren Perkone	Posted - 2008.09.01 02:43:00 - [72] Originally by: Cheenie Leave the basement. Ah, the classic response. Anyone who spends a couple of minutes throwing some numbers together must live in mommy's basement. I apologize, but I must inform you that your preconceptions are incorrect. -Liang

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