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Cyrina Manto
Masons of New Eden The Laughing Men
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Posted - 2012.03.24 21:25:00 -
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and what happens when you get hit with neuts? |
adopt
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.03.24 21:27:00 -
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I fail to see your argument. Your saying, that a ship that costs, 600-700mil in Subsystems and Hull alone and actually takes a fair bit of training and pilot competence to be flown properly, should be nerfed because it can take on gangs by itself? You sir, are the definition of stupid. Contrary to popular belief it is not difficult to kill a T3 that is fit for pvp, 2 rapiers/lokis that bitch is going nowhere. Just because you are bad at this game doesn't mean it should reflect other players.
EDIT: On top of the isk loss you also lose a skill which puts your maximum effectiveness out of commision for 3-5 days depending on remap.
Inb4 someone says I know nothing, i've been flying the Loki for the last 5 weeks, (even managed to lose one) I invested 1.6bil and 300mil in implants to make it what it is. Shadoo > Always remember to fit Cynosural Field Generator I, have 450 Liquid Ozone in your cargo and convo a friendly Pandemic Legion member if you have a capital or super capital ship tackled.
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ElQuirko
Gravit Negotii Rogue Elements.
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Posted - 2012.03.24 21:27:00 -
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Cyrina Manto wrote:And what happens when you get hit with neuts?
*edit, Ill answer myself* You turn into an expensive pinata.
Does your enyo fare much better?
*edit, Ill answer myself* lolno
We're not here to discuss my ship, or your ship, or the guy from the alliance that just drops supercapitals on everyone's opinion on whatever the hell his tech moon spews out, we're talking about T3s. ANYTHING hit with neuts becomes a pinata of some sort.
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Cyrina Manto
Masons of New Eden The Laughing Men
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Posted - 2012.03.24 21:28:00 -
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ElQuirko wrote:Cyrina Manto wrote:And what happens when you get hit with neuts?
*edit, Ill answer myself* You turn into an expensive pinata. Does your enyo fare much better? *edit, Ill answer myself* lolno We're not here to discuss my ship, or your ship, or the guy from the alliance that just drops supercapitals on everyone's opinion on whatever the hell his tech moon spews out, we're talking about T3s. ANYTHING hit with neuts becomes a pinata of some sort.
Except a properly fit tengu. |
ElQuirko
Gravit Negotii Rogue Elements.
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Posted - 2012.03.24 21:28:00 -
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adopt wrote:I fail to see your argument. Your saying, that a ship that costs, 600-700mil in Subsystems and Hull alone and actually takes a fair bit of training and pilot competence to be flown properly, should be nerfed because it can take on gangs by itself? You sir, are the definition of stupid. Contrary to popular belief it is not difficult to kill a T3 that is fit for pvp, 2 rapiers/lokis that bitch is going nowhere. Just because you are bad at this game doesn't mean it should reflect other players.
My point exactly.
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ElQuirko
Gravit Negotii Rogue Elements.
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Posted - 2012.03.24 21:28:00 -
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Cyrina Manto wrote:Except a properly fit tengu.
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Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.24 21:38:00 -
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If all the 3 T3's I can fly were equally versatile I wouldn't be flying 80% 1 (Tengu) and 20% other (Loki), the third one being an hangar queen.
We don't need T3 frigates when navy/pirate ones are already far too good so some T2 ones have no point.
By the way, we don't need anything else that trashes a whole ship line like new BC's, nor new 'I win" button. |
Cyrina Manto
Masons of New Eden The Laughing Men
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Posted - 2012.03.24 21:40:00 -
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I recommend biomassing.
If T3 frigates can bring in some new roles to sub cruiser hulls Im all for it. |
Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.24 21:41:00 -
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Cyrina Manto wrote:ElQuirko wrote:Cyrina Manto wrote:And what happens when you get hit with neuts?
*edit, Ill answer myself* You turn into an expensive pinata. ANYTHING hit with neuts becomes a pinata of some sort. Except a properly fit tengu.
False statement, it's exactly what makes a 3B+ isk Tengu crack the string slip. Neut+web, next time try with "except Titans"
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ElQuirko
Gravit Negotii Rogue Elements.
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Posted - 2012.03.24 21:44:00 -
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Cyrina Manto wrote:I recommend biomassing.
Heh, two people have now disagreed with your point. Your move, T3 h8r.
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Cyrina Manto
Masons of New Eden The Laughing Men
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Posted - 2012.03.24 21:45:00 -
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Tanya Powers wrote:Cyrina Manto wrote:ElQuirko wrote:Cyrina Manto wrote:And what happens when you get hit with neuts?
*edit, Ill answer myself* You turn into an expensive pinata. ANYTHING hit with neuts becomes a pinata of some sort. Except a properly fit tengu. False statement, it's exactly what makes a 3B+ isk Tengu crack the string slip. Neut+web, next time try with "except Titans" Next
For solo yeah, but with any logi on the field the tengu will still be firing and can be fit for a passive resist tank just like the proteus. Main difference is that you will still be firing your missiles while the proteus struggles to get shots in.
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ElQuirko
Gravit Negotii Rogue Elements.
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Posted - 2012.03.24 21:47:00 -
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Cyrina Manto wrote: For solo yeah, but with any logi on the field the tengu will still be firing and can be fit for a passive resist tank just like the proteus. Main difference is that you will still be firing your missiles while the proteus struggles to get shots in.
Good god...
EDIT: Comparisons between ships are always made presuming that the fight is a 1v1... Otherwise you can just say "YEAH BUT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN SIXTY NYXES AND TWO HUNDRED ZILLION CARRIERS AND DREADS GANK IT!111!1!1One!12!"
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Cyrina Manto
Masons of New Eden The Laughing Men
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Posted - 2012.03.24 21:58:00 -
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ElQuirko wrote: Good god...
EDIT: Comparisons between ships are always made presuming that the fight is a 1v1... Otherwise you can just say "YEAH BUT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN SIXTY NYXES AND TWO HUNDRED ZILLION CARRIERS AND DREADS GANK IT!111!1!1One!12!"
Ok, so 1 v 1 the tengu kites you and you have no neuts that can hit it. This is why the Tengu is so damn popular, and T3's in general are a bit out of balance.
And since when in EvE is the majority of PVP 1 v 1?
I actually fly the proteus, and it is a bit subpar in a duel vs other T3's that can fight at range unless you use a lol rail fit. Then it looses because DPS is a bit inadequate. |
Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.24 22:01:00 -
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Cyrina Manto wrote:For solo yeah, but with any logi on the field the tengu will still be firing and can be fit for a passive resist tank just like the proteus. Main difference is that you will still be firing your missiles while the proteus struggles to get shots in.
That's exactly why my Proteus is an hangar queen, the tengu is not going anywhere once neut/web, his shield physic HP is limited to around 4k depending on the fit, this is indeed something that you can barely brake if said Tengu has a logi, but same apply to Loki. A 6x425mm shield loki is a hell of competitor for DPS, fast and has a hell of a tank, put a logi behind it and you need exponential dps on it to kill it.
Actually what makes me fly Tengu more than loki and loki more than proteus? -this I can answer you.
Now, I want a ship that I don't have to invest 3B in to be able to kill a lot of rats, eventually kick ass some dude trying to kill me and the ability to fit something that can surprise my enemy and help me either kill it either gtfo.
Tengu is the only one I can get out with these pre requirements. -I can fit an 100MN AB that will not make my sign explode to the point even Ray Charles firing blind would hit me. -has enough slots so I can improve my tank, add some e-war and improve my gtfo/dps -have a respectable and flexible range of engagement -profit from faction/ded items to add extra exponentially
None of all others is capable to do this, even Loki that is imho the closest (at least in null sec where I am) doesn't offer all those points despite putting that much isk on fittings.
problem 1 -oversized module that give exponentials ability when it should use a MWD
problem 2 -engagement distance, for a ship of this size being the only one to push a very decent dps at over 100km
Solution 1 -make sort a size module is inactive if the size ship does not match (like rigs)
Solution 2 -Balance the other T3 ships to the point they offer same performances, and from my point of view, this is the real problem, lack of balance and versatility of other T3 ships.
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