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JD Rocketfeller
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.24 18:26:00 -
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According to Fanfest slide that said "drogue region iteration". They didnt really talk about it though so I imagine it will be a stealthy nerf. |
Riley Moore
Sentinum Research
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Posted - 2012.03.24 18:28:00 -
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Indeed, was on their April 24 patch power-point presentation. Large volumes of highly researched Ammo, drones, charges and ship bpo's. Biggest BPO store in EVE! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=445524#post445524 |
Brock Nelson
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Posted - 2012.03.24 18:29:00 -
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Who has 20b invested in Zydrine?
<----This guy! Signature removed, CCP Phantom |
Lord Jita
Lord Jita's Big Gay Corp
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Posted - 2012.03.24 18:49:00 -
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This thread again? |
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
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Posted - 2012.03.24 19:12:00 -
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Brock Nelson wrote:Who has 20b invested in Zydrine?
<----This guy! <------------- High five broski
Oddly I have exactly the same amount, and a little bit of morphite too -áhttp://i.imgur.com/aWNfM.jpg |
Riley Moore
Sentinum Research
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Posted - 2012.03.24 19:18:00 -
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Simi Kusoni wrote:Brock Nelson wrote:Who has 20b invested in Zydrine?
<----This guy! <------------- High five broski Oddly I have exactly the same amount, and a little bit of morphite too
Same :P 20m zyd, and a few morph Large volumes of highly researched Ammo, drones, charges and ship bpo's. Biggest BPO store in EVE! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=445524#post445524 |
Jan VanRijkdom
Jan VanRijkdom IInvestments
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Posted - 2012.03.24 19:20:00 -
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I also have 2-
Oh yeah, I already sold it all..... Mmmm...beer... -áAnd no, I'm not actually Dutch. |
Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2012.03.24 20:29:00 -
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We need a pic of that slide |
corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
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Posted - 2012.03.24 21:28:00 -
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Ya'll realize that this is probably going to be an across the board mineral spike, right? Drone region denizens source a lot of their low ends locally for supercaps and whatnot, so that's extra demand hitting Jita as well. |
Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2012.03.25 07:04:00 -
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http://www.tentonhammer.com/eve-online/interviews/inferno-part-one
Time index 11:00 |
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Antonios Tiberius
Unity Continuum Supernova Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.25 13:53:00 -
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What is the projected price spike if drones don't drop any alloys?
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Liberty Eternal
Taggart Transdimensional Virtue of Selfishness
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Posted - 2012.03.25 14:27:00 -
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Antonios Tiberius wrote:What is the projected price spike if drones don't drop any alloys?
Whoa.. what!?!! You mean like... actualy maths and stuff?!?
Hewantsrealcalculationsandevidenceishemad??!? |
papamike
Precipice Industries
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Posted - 2012.03.25 15:03:00 -
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Adunh Slavy wrote:http://www.tentonhammer.com/eve-online/interviews/inferno-part-one
Time index 11:00
There was alot in that interview. Possible increase to high sec taxation was a novel one.
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Brock Nelson
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Posted - 2012.03.25 16:45:00 -
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Liberty Eternal wrote:Antonios Tiberius wrote:What is the projected price spike if drones don't drop any alloys?
Whoa.. what!?!! You mean like... actualy maths and stuff?!? Hewantsrealcalculationsandevidenceishemad??!?
Time to do some voodoo ****
/emote picks up the phone and calls in VV Signature removed, CCP Phantom |
corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
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Posted - 2012.03.25 16:55:00 -
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Who needs voodoo bullshit? Just look at market data from 3-4 years ago for a good baseline. |
Tasko Pal
Spallated Garniferous Schist
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Posted - 2012.03.25 17:20:00 -
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Antonios Tiberius wrote:What is the projected price spike if drones don't drop any alloys?
Long term projections are all over the place.
Incidentally, my long term projection is 1600 for zydrine and 2550 megacyte. That assumes nocxium doesn't change much, which may be crazy talk.
As to short term spikes, it depends on what's currently being hoarded. I honestly don't think they'll go up much because from what I'm hearing, there are vast stashes of zydrine and other minerals around.
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DarthNefarius
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Posted - 2012.03.26 01:39:00 -
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Amarr God I pray there is a buff to mining somehow i this happens. lol I'm sure even though all the mineral inflation will be because of the drones changing to bounties Incursions will still get blamed for inflation lol To the whiners : CCP Soundwave "Incursions are not a big issue in terms of isk globally"
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SamtheDog
Singularity.
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Posted - 2012.03.26 02:16:00 -
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Damn.
From CCP itself, 40% of high end minerals coming from drone regions is going to be stopped.
That will have an immediate and incredibly dramatic effect on the prices of high end minerals.
I also noticed that right after that interview, zydrine is now 1490 bid / 1560 sell.
I'm going to assume that most who are selling have not seen the video or haven't the proper information.
This change is so dramatic, I feel a 10x increase was too small (750 -> 7500 per unit of zydrine).
I'm leaning towards 10-13k now per unit if this happens when supply is cut literally in half.
And the mad dash towards buying has aleady begun and shows now real signs of abating..I may buy another 20bn of zydrine myself.
Sam |
Brock Nelson
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Posted - 2012.03.26 02:47:00 -
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13K price would translate 200b profit for me Signature removed, CCP Phantom |
corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
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Posted - 2012.03.26 03:29:00 -
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SamtheDog wrote:Damn.
From CCP itself, 40% of high end minerals coming from drone regions is going to be stopped.
That will have an immediate and incredibly dramatic effect on the prices of high end minerals.
I also noticed that right after that interview, zydrine is now 1490 bid / 1560 sell.
I'm going to assume that most who are selling have not seen the video or haven't the proper information.
This change is so dramatic, I feel a 10x increase was too small (750 -> 7500 per unit of zydrine).
I'm leaning towards 10-13k now per unit if this happens when supply is cut literally in half.
And the mad dash towards buying has aleady begun and shows now real signs of abating..I may buy another 20bn of zydrine myself.
Sam
Which is why you bought a stack of 2.6 million units at 1700/unit.
You're insane if you think it goes to 13k fyi. I mean I'd love it if you were right since I'd make 400b on my zyd pile alone, but, you're insane. |
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Scrapyard Bob
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2012.03.26 03:35:00 -
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Short-term, yes it could hit prices like that, long-term it would make the ABC ores more profitable then running anoms or other ISK-making opportunities. Plus it will become profitable to buy and melt existing items on the market as a source of minerals if prices spike too far. So at some point, the market would correct the imbalance.
Null-sec ores being worth 500 ISK/m3 is probably about the long-term number, dropping back to 400 ISK/m3 by the fall. That would be prices approximating:
Trit 5.00 Pye 6.50 Mex 65 Iso 100 Nocx 520 Zyd 2800 Mega 4000 Morph 7500 Veld 150 Scor 137 Pyro 181 Plag 182 Omb 110 Kern 189 Croc 508 Bist 511 Ark 560
Or if you want to be more pessimistic:
Trit 6.50 Pye 7.50 Mex 75 Iso 120 Nocx 650 Zyd 3200 Mega 5500 Morph 9000 Veld 195 Scor 171 Pyro 221 Plag 212 Omb 132 Kern 222 Croc 585 Bist 634 Ark 740
I'm not sure that Ark can maintain that price premium as every last scrap will be mined out. |
Antonios Tiberius
Unity Continuum Supernova Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.26 03:56:00 -
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Well, at the moment in Jita Zydrine prices are now at sell-1900 buy-1700. |
SamtheDog
Singularity.
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Posted - 2012.03.26 05:49:00 -
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Antonios Tiberius wrote:Well, at the moment in Jita Zydrine prices are now at sell-1900 buy-1700.
That was me. I just put another 20bn into zydrine at around 1600-1700 isk/unit.
It's a modest bump to the 320M stockpile which is now 330M units of zydrine. I do feel that it is very much worth it in the long term to hold onto zydrine. I can only imagine what will happen in May.
However, some people were paying 3000 isk/unit for zydrine which tells me something. Regardless if you think I'm insane or not, my isk value nearly increased by 250bn in profit in a few days. However, I'm not looking at making a cool trillion isk, I want ot make THREE trillion isk iwth a nice 2.5 tn in profit.
So yes, I'll be happy to buy more zydrine. But as people are hesitant to pay more now and hoping for cheaper prices, sellers are debating if they need quick isk or will bank on more profit later. Regardless of all this, the trend for zydrine is going high very fast, and the people willing to pay for this know something that most don't and that is eve's history.
Sam |
Tobiaz
Spacerats
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Posted - 2012.03.26 12:48:00 -
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Some people REALLY have too much money!
It's cool that you guys play the same game like everyone else... only not. And seem to have fun doing so. http://go-dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Tobiaz/sig_complaints.gif
How about fixing image-linking on the forums, CCP? I want to see signatures! |
Mr Blue
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2012.03.26 14:13:00 -
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last I checked drone region alloys hold very little zyd, but much more nocxium. then again Ive no idea how much of that accually supply market in jita |
lafforet
Amarr Royal Trust Bank
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Posted - 2012.03.26 14:20:00 -
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Exactly, zydrine was speculation. It will hit nocxium much harder:
|| Mineral || Ore% || Loot% || Drone Compounds% || ||-----------||------||-------||------------------|| || Tritanium || 46% || 43% || 11% || || Pyerite || 29% || 60% || 10% || || Mexallon || 30% || 59% || 11% || || Isogen || 21% || 56% || 23% || || Nocxium || 18% || 32% || 51% || || Zydrine || 43% || 18% || 40% || || Megacyte || 44% || 39% || 16% || || Morphite || 77% || 1% || 22% ||
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Kara Roideater
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.26 14:25:00 -
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40% = very little? |
Mr Blue
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2012.03.26 14:32:00 -
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http://www.eve-guides.com/Ore/alloys.php should give you a clear picture. |
Steve Celeste
Nex Exercitus Raiden.
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Posted - 2012.03.26 14:34:00 -
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I can still remember 90 isk Nocxium, so I don't trust that mineral.... |
lafforet
Amarr Royal Trust Bank
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Posted - 2012.03.26 14:42:00 -
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I am not an industrialist, but as much as I have seen, zydrine consumption in ships usually is very low. And yes, 40% is low for more than 100% price increase during the last days. Those who bought it earlier are now just encouraging to buy their stockpile out. |
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