Cambarus
The Baros Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.09.02 05:56:00 -
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 Originally by: 5pinDizzy
1. Main argument Against Suiciding - People don't see why people harass and attack the highsec dwellers in the first place, lowsec and nullsec is the place for pvp, leave them alone. - Well there you go, doesn't that solve all your problems?
I find this style of argument interesting. You're posting as someone arguing for safe highsec, against someone arguing for safe highsec. OBVIOUSLY someone who doesn't ever suicide gank is going to side with you, those aren't the people you need to convince. The guys you need to convince are the ones like me, who think that there should be some semblance of risk vs reward in eve. For those who want safety, WoW is thataway -->
Originally by: 5pinDizzy
2. It's considered grief play - So remove it then.
Sonofa... you did it again.
Your post makes no sense whatsoever. You're arguing with the people who DON'T think it's considered grief play, not the ones who do 
Originally by: 5pinDizzy
3. Think of all the extra thousands of people you'll attract from similar clone mainstream MMORPG's like WoW where it's similar rules and layout but a different role/setting.
And that right there is you /thread
Saying that you want eve to be like wow is like saying you want a 5 star restorant to be more like McDonalds. It's really, really hard to take anyone who says eve needs to be more like wow, obvious troll is obvious, but I'll keep smackin ya anyway.
Originally by: 5pinDizzy
4. Oh but Eve is a sandbox you should be able to attack anyone anywhere - Give me a break, empire highsec is no more a pvp zone as a nursery is a jailhouse, with the current system being put in place, suicide ganks will drop to affect around 0.00000001% of the eve population in terms of victims and participants. You'll get the odd foolish multibillionaire freighter, most likely a GTC noob, nothing more. Nearly all perceived danger in highsec is an illusion.
A thorax with tech II guns can easily solo kill a hulk, or 2 macks, in a .5 system.
Just because you posted that I'm going to drop half a billion isk on thoraxs/fittings, and see how much isk damage I can cause after the suicide nerf, it should be in and around 8bil in damages if my estimate's not off. Perceived danger in highsec is very much real, because there are people, such as myself, who will go off and suicide gank someone out of boredom. Half of the time I blow up the guys wreck rather then bothering to loot it. Eve was DESIGNED to be played this way. Griefing is not only allowed but profitable (it only becomes a problem when one person is the repeated target of griefers)
Originally by: 5pinDizzy
5. Don't frustrate wannabe wowtards with the penalties shovelled onto them, like a carrot dangling off a fishing line that's too high to reach. Trying to satiate the carebears with a false sense of security wherein they'll believe that just because it's no longer as profitable to gank them means it won't happen. Relieve them of the burden of trying to make their chosen profession work so they can go play in WoW or Runescape.
Fixed.
Originally by: 5pinDizzy
6. It's going to be talked about at some point soon. As although the carebear types will be squealing with delight at the current undergoing changes, we'll soon see the forum filled with whines again at some point on the ones PVE'ing and accidently targeting a neutral and getting themselves concorded with no insurance claim.
This I can't wait for  Ohhhh how the carebears will whine once they realized that gankers aren't the only ones to get boned by the change
Originally by: 5pinDizzy
So the next task after making it a safezone would be to work out how to make it idiotproof.
It IS idiot proof. That whole harsh, cruel universe thing? It acts like a barrier, keeping the idiots out (mostly). How bout we just leave it as it is and let eve's darwinism (a fool and his isk/ships soon part ways) take its course. |