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Syvenor Suslemo
Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2008.09.02 13:25:00 -
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Just wanted to know is this a decent pew pew deimos setup ?
HI: 5x Heavy Neutron II
MED: 10MN MWD II Stasis Webifier Warp Distruptor II
LOW: 800mm Steel II 2x MFS II EANM II Damage Control II Dark Blood Energized Reactive Membrane
Rigs: 2x Ancillary Current Router I
Drones: 5x Hammers II
Armor HP : 5178.75 Armor EM : 73.82 % Armor Explo : 66.95 % Armor Kinetic : 89.5 % Armor Thermal : 79.01 %
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Syvenor Suslemo
Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2008.09.02 13:25:00 -
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P.S. how can i see my dps in quick fit ?
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Ralara
Caldari Shadow Incursion
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Posted - 2008.09.02 13:33:00 -
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Originally by: Syvenor Suslemo Just wanted to know is this a decent pew pew deimos setup ?
LOW: 800mm Steel II
Use a 800mm Rolled Tungston, it's actually better than the tech 2 (same armour amount, less mass for more agility).
And drones.
DPS is shown on the right hand side of EFT, above your speed and below the defence (shield) icon. It's labled "Firepower". Top number is your DPS, bottom number is the amount per "volly" of all weapons firing at once. --
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Rude Bwoy
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Posted - 2008.09.03 12:07:00 -
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Fit a 800mm RT Plate. Can you swap the DB Explosive hardner for an active one? Who's the rudest of them all! |
Rajere
No Trademark Obsidian Empire
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Posted - 2008.09.03 12:20:00 -
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no it's not. way too expensive rigs for what is basically a thorax. You will die to some cruisers and to any battlecruiser easily. Either nano now while you can, or get an Ishtar instead. NOTR How to Fail at Eve
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Cpt Branko
Surge.
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Posted - 2008.09.03 12:21:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Branko on 03/09/2008 12:21:09
Originally by: Rajere no it's not. way too expensive rigs for what is basically a thorax. You will die to some cruisers and to any battlecruiser easily. Either nano now while you can, or get an Ishtar instead.
Nanoed Diemost? How does that work?
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NeoTheo
Dark Materials
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Posted - 2008.09.03 12:25:00 -
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Edited by: NeoTheo on 03/09/2008 12:25:53 My fit tends to be,
High : 5x ION II's Mids = MWD, Disruptor II and Webbie. Lows = 2x Mag Stab II, 2x EANM II, 1 DCII, 1x 1600mm Rolled tungsten.
2x, power grid rigs.
love the ship, much fun to fly. PS: ECM drones a must.
Dark Materials
Linkage
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Rajere
No Trademark Obsidian Empire
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Posted - 2008.09.03 12:59:00 -
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Edited by: Rajere on 03/09/2008 12:59:44
Quote: Nanoed Diemost? How does that work?
about the same as any other deimos fit, ie not very well. You can either use null or even lolrail fit, you want to be able to hit from 15km or more. Doesn't matter how you're fit the deimos dies when it gets webbed. pray your ecm drones save you. nanoing simply lets you run away from fights you'd lose before you get webbed, where plating does not.
Ultimately you're a 90mil isk thorax hull NOTR How to Fail at Eve
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Djerin
Free-Space-Ranger Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.09.03 13:22:00 -
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Originally by: Rajere nanoing simply lets you run away from fights you'd lose before you get webbed
If your style of "fighting" involves running away a Deimos is the wrong ship to fly. As a Deimos pilot you mustn't be a sissy.
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Rajere
No Trademark Obsidian Empire
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Posted - 2008.09.03 13:27:00 -
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well I'll bow to your superior experience flying a deimos since I don't fly one (not sarcasm, looked up your kb) NOTR How to Fail at Eve
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Cpt Branko
Surge.
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Posted - 2008.09.03 13:41:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Branko on 03/09/2008 13:42:15 But I mean, what's the point of a nano-Deimos when the Ishtar exists?
Well, it's got camo paint. That's like Gallente version of 'it's friggin vertical'.
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Burn Mac
Minmatar Burning Steel Inc.
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Posted - 2008.09.03 13:48:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Branko Edited by: Cpt Branko on 03/09/2008 13:42:15 That's like Gallente version of 'it's friggin vertical'.
Dude the Myrmidon is f r i g g i n
v e r t i c a l
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The Djego
Minmatar merovinger inc
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Posted - 2008.09.03 13:59:00 -
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Originally by: Rajere no it's not. way too expensive rigs for what is basically a thorax. You will die to some cruisers and to any battlecruiser easily. Either nano now while you can, or get an Ishtar instead.
Well if you Nano a Deimos it will fail aganist most Cruisers and BCs for shure. Personaly I donŠt know a single T1 Cruiser that could (without ECM Drones) handle a Deimos.
Deimos is a T2 Thorax, it is faster, has more cap, and more Damage, also better fittings, but it has the same weak point like a Thorax(Cap, bad Tank, short Range).
Fitting of the OP is ok(I personaly go without a Plate to get the most out of the speed and agility of the ship).
Ps: Every Nano Ishtar that tryed to solo my Deimos left in shame and without his drones, it is quite funny this people donŠt realize that her Drones die quick and the Deimos can simply outrun any heavy Drone.
---- Nerf Tank - Boost Gank!
Originally by: Amantus Real men don't need to get into blaster range.
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Firkragg
Blue Labs Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.09.03 14:13:00 -
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Originally by: The Djego
Originally by: Rajere no it's not. way too expensive rigs for what is basically a thorax. You will die to some cruisers and to any battlecruiser easily. Either nano now while you can, or get an Ishtar instead.
Well if you Nano a Deimos it will fail aganist most Cruisers and BCs for shure. Personaly I donŠt know a single T1 Cruiser that could (without ECM Drones) handle a Deimos.
Deimos is a T2 Thorax, it is faster, has more cap, and more Damage, also better fittings, but it has the same weak point like a Thorax(Cap, bad Tank, short Range).
Fitting of the OP is ok(I personaly go without a Plate to get the most out of the speed and agility of the ship).
Ps: Every Nano Ishtar that tryed to solo my Deimos left in shame and without his drones, it is quite funny this people donŠt realize that her Drones die quick and the Deimos can simply outrun any heavy Drone.
Unless its one of those annoying ones which dropes sentrys 70km off you before coming in and putting its point on you
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The Djego
Minmatar merovinger inc
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Posted - 2008.09.03 14:20:00 -
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Edited by: The Djego on 03/09/2008 14:20:50
Originally by: Firkragg
Originally by: The Djego
Originally by: Rajere no it's not. way too expensive rigs for what is basically a thorax. You will die to some cruisers and to any battlecruiser easily. Either nano now while you can, or get an Ishtar instead.
Well if you Nano a Deimos it will fail aganist most Cruisers and BCs for shure. Personaly I donŠt know a single T1 Cruiser that could (without ECM Drones) handle a Deimos.
Deimos is a T2 Thorax, it is faster, has more cap, and more Damage, also better fittings, but it has the same weak point like a Thorax(Cap, bad Tank, short Range).
Fitting of the OP is ok(I personaly go without a Plate to get the most out of the speed and agility of the ship).
Ps: Every Nano Ishtar that tryed to solo my Deimos left in shame and without his drones, it is quite funny this people donŠt realize that her Drones die quick and the Deimos can simply outrun any heavy Drone.
Unless its one of those annoying ones which dropes sentrys 70km off you before coming in and putting its point on you
You can still get out of Sentry range if nobody comes close to web you(what is very unlikly from any ship that is faster than you, Recons might be a bit of a problem with bonused Web/Neut range). ---- Nerf Tank - Boost Gank!
Originally by: Amantus Real men don't need to get into blaster range.
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Rajere
No Trademark Obsidian Empire
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Posted - 2008.09.03 14:24:00 -
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the arbitrator comes to mind :p NOTR How to Fail at Eve
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bldyannoyed
Killed In Action
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Posted - 2008.09.03 14:32:00 -
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Personally I'd drop the EANM and the DB resistance thingy and fit a Tech II Explosive and another MFS II.
Also train AWU 5, it allows you to drop one of the ACR's and fit a Tri-mark instead, saving you about 20 mill and getting you a few extra EHP.
Ive only ever bothered with this thing on sisi cos on TQ i just don't see the point. On sisi I have had some 1 vs 1 with tier 2 BC's. Depending on my opponents skill it is possible to just gank the shit out of them before you die. It doesnt always work though, and when do you ever get a 1 v 1? In practice you'd either get ganked or be in a gnag and really want to be flying something else.
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Cpt Branko
Surge.
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Posted - 2008.09.03 14:37:00 -
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Originally by: bldyannoyed Personally I'd drop the EANM and the DB resistance thingy and fit a Tech II Explosive and another MFS II.
Also train AWU 5, it allows you to drop one of the ACR's and fit a Tri-mark instead, saving you about 20 mill and getting you a few extra EHP.
Ive only ever bothered with this thing on sisi cos on TQ i just don't see the point. On sisi I have had some 1 vs 1 with tier 2 BC's. Depending on my opponents skill it is possible to just gank the shit out of them before you die. It doesnt always work though, and when do you ever get a 1 v 1? In practice you'd either get ganked or be in a gnag and really want to be flying something else.
When flying a Hurricane, if I see a Diemost on scanner in a reasonably clear local I try to sit in a belt and act stupid in hopes they come after me. No issues getting a 1v1 there
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Hepren D'narr
Gallente MuroBBS United
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Posted - 2008.09.03 15:32:00 -
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Edited by: Hepren D''narr on 03/09/2008 15:33:44 Edited by: Hepren D''narr on 03/09/2008 15:32:33 Well, I've been reading that thorax thread, and some people likes to fit thorax with small blasters for more EHP. So I thought, why not do the same thing to Deimos!
Here's the result: Deimos
Look at that juicy amount of the frigging EHP!
Edit: oops, looks like I fit tech 1 MWD there. Oh well, that isnt the main point.
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Korthan
Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2008.09.03 15:39:00 -
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5x Heavy Ion Blaser II 1x 10mn MWD 1x Web 1x Scram 2x MAR II 1x DC II 2x EANM II 1x ERM II 2x Aux Nano Pump I 5x Hammerhead II / Vespa EC-600
Only problem i ever had in this was if a curse showed up or a nano sac. ---------------------------------------------- Ghost Festival - NA Recruiter/Director -Korthan
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Djerin
Free-Space-Ranger Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.09.03 15:42:00 -
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Edited by: Djerin on 03/09/2008 15:42:43 Well Hepren, disable the guns and look how tiny the difference is. Seriously, you're basically wasting 3 of the Deimos' 4 bonuses with a fit like that.
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Car Wars
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.09.03 15:56:00 -
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Edited by: Car Wars on 03/09/2008 15:59:00 Edited by: Car Wars on 03/09/2008 15:56:52 Solo setup I borrowed from my buddy Kunming:
High: 5x heavy neutron II, small nos (named) Med: 10mn mwd (prob named), web, disruptor Low: 2x small armor repair II, expl hardner II, dcu II, ean II and mfs II
Rigs: 2x cap Drones: 5 x ecm or 5 x hammerhead II.
DonÆt laugh at the 2x small repair, it actually reps the same amount as a med, and uses less pg. Further you can save cap by running just one. With the rigs it all perma runs without the mwd on. Negates the o so needed cap booster.
Optional change ean II to mfs II but check your cap stability as an mfs II drains your cap more.
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The Djego
Minmatar merovinger inc
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Posted - 2008.09.03 16:02:00 -
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Originally by: Rajere the arbitrator comes to mind :p
I think somebody on my KB likes do disagee here. Unfortunaly he had some backup from a Pilgram that finished me off in the end.
Vs a Tier 2 BC it depends, HP buffer Tanks are very fast a knock out for the Deimos, also Neuts.
---- Nerf Tank - Boost Gank!
Originally by: Amantus Real men don't need to get into blaster range.
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Djerin
Free-Space-Ranger Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.09.03 19:56:00 -
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Originally by: The Djego Vs a Tier 2 BC it depends, HP buffer Tanks are very fast a knock out for the Deimos, also Neuts.
Main problem is, that you're "under their guns" no matter what. Sadly though BC do use medium guns and lots of them, so they do a tremendous amount of damage to you even if they're aren't specifically set up to gank. So without some kind of ewar you wont have a real chance to kill em. Be it ECM drones or a tracking disruptor. You'll only kill em if you can somehow limit their damage potential. I'd say tier 2 BCs are the most dangerous ships to face as a Deimos pilot. Well, besides Field Command ships that is.
---- Sarmaul's crosstrainorgtfo |
Tao Han
Ginnungagaps Rymdfarargille Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.03 20:33:00 -
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Just keep in mind that a Deimos (along most blasterships) is a "do or die" ship.
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Grarr Dexx
Amarr The Cosa Nostra
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Posted - 2008.09.03 20:59:00 -
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Originally by: Hepren D'narr Edited by: Hepren D''narr on 03/09/2008 15:33:44 Edited by: Hepren D''narr on 03/09/2008 15:32:33 Well, I've been reading that thorax thread, and some people likes to fit thorax with small blasters for more EHP. So I thought, why not do the same thing to Deimos!
Here's the result: Deimos
Look at that juicy amount of the frigging EHP!
Edit: oops, looks like I fit tech 1 MWD there. Oh well, that isnt the main point.
I can go faster in a maller without a mwd.
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Radcjk
Caldari Dark Star LTD
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Posted - 2008.09.03 21:43:00 -
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Deimos is a straight gank ship. 'Get an Ishtar' is very much for another style of player. That said near ANY HAC thAt gets into contact / web range of a BC and can't nano off is going to die. It isn't just the Deimos.
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Kulmid
The Elear FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.09.03 21:59:00 -
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Originally by: Grarr Dexx
Originally by: Hepren D'narr Edited by: Hepren D''narr on 03/09/2008 15:33:44 Edited by: Hepren D''narr on 03/09/2008 15:32:33 Well, I've been reading that thorax thread, and some people likes to fit thorax with small blasters for more EHP. So I thought, why not do the same thing to Deimos!
Here's the result: Deimos
Look at that juicy amount of the frigging EHP!
Edit: oops, looks like I fit tech 1 MWD there. Oh well, that isnt the main point.
I can go faster in a maller without a mwd.
He has a cloak activated for whatever reason, I don't agree with it, but that's why its so slow.
You would think CCP would have added things like, "Amarr", "CCP", "Microwarpdrive", etc. to their forum dictionary.
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Car Wars
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.09.03 22:54:00 -
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Edited by: Car Wars on 03/09/2008 22:54:28 here is the original link to the setup i posted. look for Kunmings post.
Tried and tested.
It is one of the best setups for the deimos, by one of best deimos pilots.
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Hepren D'narr
Gallente MuroBBS United
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Posted - 2008.09.04 13:13:00 -
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Well, I just build that fit in EFT to see how much EHP you could get. Im not being serious about that fit at all.
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