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Draahkness
Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.09.02 18:14:00 -
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Its time mr Devs sirs to do something to amarr pve. All races have at least one bs that can freely choose damage type. Domi, phoon, raven. What am i supposed to do when i get a lvl4 vs angels or caldari state? 90% or so EM resist and some of them orbit over 44km away so drones is useless too. Amarr bs lvl 5 and baddon means ALOT of damage but still they tank me at 80% shield. Please fix rats EM resist (as I feel explosive or kinetic crystals would ruin the beauty of amarr). Either that or change paladin to a cruise missile lobber.
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Terianna Eri
Amarr Scrutari
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Posted - 2008.09.02 18:32:00 -
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Why? Only two rat factions that really suck to use lasers against are Angels and Guristas, and if you run missions for the Amarr, you very rarely get missions against those factions.
Additionally if you're using lasers against, say, sansha/bloods, lasers are so much better than everything else that it would be unfair to have that and make them also competitive against other factions.
P.S., you don't have to fit lasers onto the ships if you don't want to. P.P.S., 900 laser damage getting nerfed to 500 dps due to resists is still 500 dps. |
Borar
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.09.02 18:37:00 -
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Don`t do guristas missions ,its a time sink . The assault the last bs it cost me almost 30 min to kill it with lasers.And i have maxed outskills. And don`t join a alliance where they have guristas rats ,i did that ones ,no profit for amarr dudes . |
Draahkness
Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.09.02 18:39:00 -
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Running for Sansha Nation. Get lots of missions against Caldari State and Angels. And what about amarr characters in an alliance living in angel regions? Or in guristas regions for that matter. |
Terianna Eri
Amarr Scrutari
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Posted - 2008.09.02 18:45:00 -
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Edited by: Terianna Eri on 02/09/2008 18:45:23
Originally by: Draahkness Running for Sansha Nation. Get lots of missions against Caldari State and Angels. And what about amarr characters in an alliance living in angel regions? Or in guristas regions for that matter.
spend a week, cross-train to cruise raven?
or for graet luls fit 2 siege launchers and 6 NBC IIs onto an apocalypse EDIT: or use a sacrilege, those are good at dishing out 400-500 damage of any type i hear __________________________________
Originally by: Arthur Frayn How much to ruin all your holes, luv?
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Draahkness
Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.09.02 18:59:00 -
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Sure I'll train upp useless missile skills if you can explain to me why all other races can have a bs that works in all regions and in all missions but not amarr?
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Terianna Eri
Amarr Scrutari
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Posted - 2008.09.02 19:14:00 -
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Originally by: Draahkness Sure I'll train upp useless missile skills if you can explain to me why all other races can have a bs that works in all regions and in all missions but not amarr?
Clearly if you can find a benefit to having missile skills, they're not useless?
By the way, the Domi can do a maximum of 475 dps with drones, and that's with thermal drones. Changing to another damage type lowers the damage from there.
Caldari - the race with missiles, the race with "hey look, we can do any damage type, but we have to use missiles to do it" - sure, they can switch damage types - but on most ships they lose damage for switching away from kinetic.
Minmatar? They have the typhoon, with a whopping 4 missile hardpoints, and don't even say that projectiles can freely switch damage types (really, they can't. there's EMP, PP, and fusion and that's about it)
Amarr? Amarr have always been traditionally locked into em/therm damage, and imho you should be happy we got khanid mkII for the sacrilege. The geddon has as much heavy dronage as the typhoon, the apoc deals as much damage with rails/blasters as the rokh does.
Why don't other races get the ability to deal ~1000 dps at 45 km?
because... the races are different.
P.S. I lived in guristas space for a while, trained for a drake, worked perfectly well. |
Jaketh Ivanes
Amarr Imperial Servants
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Posted - 2008.09.03 06:30:00 -
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I do a lot of missions and fly Amarr ships mostly. Flying solo, I find it very hard to break some shields on Gurista, but never impossible. Angles are basically the same issue with Republic Fleet Darkana's being the worst.
The best solution is to have a logistic ship do the tanking for you. Being able to fit 3 heatsinks and a tracking computer or 2, really helps a lot. Another solution is to train projectile weapons and use Kin or Exp drones to support your damage.
But yeah, the restricted EM/Therm damage can really be a pain from time to time. On the other hand, unlimited ammo is nice.
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Roemy Schneider
BINFORD
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Posted - 2008.09.03 06:55:00 -
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sry, i've run DPS calcs according to NPC info (from elfarto) two weeks ago. laser ships deal more damage against angels < roughly 80% em resistances basically due to the fact that lasers deal the most raw damage.
the AC tempest has a slight advantage when it comes to the short-range angel BS. but my pulse apoc fares better with the long range stuff. overall i don't see room for amarrian complaints.
i fly both. that said, going against "laser-type" NPC in a tempest is a lot harder. longe range = arties = lulz. the phoon adds a few options, but it's not really all that powerful to begin with. it could still use a fifth bay/turret, if not sixth (okok probably too much) - putting the gist back into logistics |
Grarr Dexx
Amarr The Cosa Nostra
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Posted - 2008.09.03 11:41:00 -
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Originally by: Draahkness Its time mr Devs sirs to do something to amarr pve. All races have at least one bs that can freely choose damage type. Domi, phoon, raven. What am i supposed to do when i get a lvl4 vs angels or caldari state? 90% or so EM resist and some of them orbit over 44km away so drones is useless too. Amarr bs lvl 5 and baddon means ALOT of damage but still they tank me at 80% shield. Please fix rats EM resist (as I feel explosive or kinetic crystals would ruin the beauty of amarr). Either that or change paladin to a cruise missile lobber.
Surely you must have heard of Ewar Drone Interfacing and not ****ing doing a mission that resists everything you throw at it.
If all the races in eve were the same it would be a pretty goddamn lame game, and it's really said that I have to say this to an RK member.
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