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Dhejay Centrix
Caldari
The Wailing Doom
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Posted - 2008.09.02 21:27:00 -
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Burn the heretic vista users. Tis something we don't have and don't understand, must be eeeeeeevil black magic and a sin against God!
Progress 4tw 
Back to the point, yes please give us dx10 eye candy (optional) like the premium/classic switch.
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Ryoji Tanakama
Caldari
Firestar Drive Yards
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Posted - 2008.09.02 21:33:00 -
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Bought my laptop with XP, EVE juddered and lagged. Upgraded to Vista, EVE runs smooth as you could wish. Still only classic but thats a hardware deficiency.
I've run vista on my desktop since launch and had 0 problems. It only crashes when I do something stupid (the kind of thing that would guarantee a bluescreen on XP) and even then it rarely even requires me to reboot.
Driver support sucked at launch but now frankly vista pwns xp. |
Paramite Pies
Minmatar
Kasrkin Innovative Assembly
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Posted - 2008.09.02 21:35:00 -
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Vista is great. If you know how NOT to mess it up. Which even I do sometimes. I've had to format my computer twice... and there always seems to be ONE flaw regardless. |
Niccolado Starwalker
Shadow Templars
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Posted - 2008.09.02 22:00:00 -
[64]
 Originally by: Gildoom
I have vista on 3 machines, love it, dunno what everyone screams about, never seen it crash as well. But I build my own, and I am not ******ed.
I runs Vista 64 too, but I am not all that happy with it. I needed to reconfigure absolutely everything on it, to have it working the way - I - wanted it to work! And still I am having problems with user right management settings plus a hugely amount of different things! Honestly, I am thinking of using the administrator account as the usual account, seeing all the small under layer problems I am having with it!
Originally by: Dianabolic
Your tears are absolutely divine, like a fine fine wine, rolling down your cheeks until they flow down the river of LOL |
Triksterism
Gallente
Mean Corp
Mean Coalition
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Posted - 2008.09.02 22:11:00 -
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Originally by: CaldariCitizen90874
Anyone ever wondered or wished the game was rendered using a DirectX10/10.1 for
things like explosions and particles and some HDR and Global Illumination.
Just asking because i like to play my games to the max lol.
c'mon look at the explosions the now i thing they look pretty damn sweet but DX10 would make it just plain sexy
This shouldn't even be mentioned until EVERYTHING has been made premium (ex. logistics drones, mission structures, cans) |
Notterribad
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Posted - 2008.09.02 22:12:00 -
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dx10 won't make eve any prettier you asshats |
Illwill Bill
Minmatar
A Few Killers
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Posted - 2008.09.02 22:24:00 -
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Edited by: Illwill Bill on 02/09/2008 22:25:35
Windows XP x64 > all Windows versions designed for home users tbfh.
All the large computer manufacturers are forced to put Vista on systems that doesn't really have power enough to run it properly, so the majority of people have gotten a really bad impression of it. The only sollution would be to make more powerful systems, which would make the costs go up, which would lead to inflation etc., so to make a long story short: If Vista didn't suck, then the world economy would be in ruins. 
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Originally by: CCP Saint
Hey look over there! Its...its...its the thread back on topic!
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Khlitouris RegusII
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Posted - 2008.09.02 22:53:00 -
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Originally by: CaldariCitizen90874
Anyone ever wondered or wished the game was rendered using a DirectX10/10.1 for
things like explosions and particles and some HDR and Global Illumination.
Just asking because i like to play my games to the max lol.
c'mon look at the explosions the now i thing they look pretty damn sweet but DX10 would make it just plain sexy
Yes because everyone wants to play with dx10 effects that look exactly the same as dx9 effects but have half the framerate.
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CaldariCitizen90874
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Posted - 2008.09.03 00:50:00 -
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Edited by: CaldariCitizen90874 on 03/09/2008 00:52:12
Vista does fukin terrible with 2GB of ram, try running a game like Empire earth or, Company of heroes, you'll have your 2gig used in no time, have 4 and it minimizes to the desktop like it was My Computer that was open
you clearly have not seen DX10 when it comes to scenery and Alpha bump maps,
well texture bump maps now, or something like that, it looks well better
my opinion anyways, and i could afford half the FPS anyway :) |
Cygnus Zhada
Amarr
Reckless Corsairs
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Posted - 2008.09.03 01:03:00 -
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I have Vista 64bit, runs mighty fine on my machine. Perhaps people should stop running it on crappy computers they bought from Walmart. Buy an actual non-brand computer that has been built for you, without the preloaded crap but an actual fresh and clean windows DVD.
People somehow think that cheap brand shite is any good.
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CaldariCitizen90874
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Posted - 2008.09.03 01:11:00 -
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Originally by: Cygnus Zhada
I have Vista 64bit, runs mighty fine on my machine. Perhaps people should stop running it on crappy computers they bought from Walmart. Buy an actual non-brand computer that has been built for you, without the preloaded crap but an actual fresh and clean windows DVD.
People somehow think that cheap brand shite is any good.
**** yes, a man who knows his stuff ^^^^ try more than 2gig ram, 2 graphics cards or even 1 that is NOT for power point presentations lol, all down to the hardware :) vista is good but so's xp
if u want to start a proper discussion we'll bring in Macs(btw not a Pc Apparently , just all the same hardware but still the guy who invented it was a ******)
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Saragael
Amarr
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2008.09.03 01:13:00 -
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For the naysayers I again cry BS. I have been using Vista since rlease and Vista 64 for over a year now, NEVER had an issue. I have built 141 machines in the last year, all but one has Vista on it and not a single user had taken my offer of a free downgrade with a 6 month warrenty extension if they did not like Vista. The one without Vista was due to the company needing to run an old DOS program.
As for the person that commented that vista does not like laptops, check again. I have a Puma based laptop that SCREAMS with Vista.
Any machine with a daul core processor and 2 gigs of RAM will run Vista 32 bit fine. Personally I say go for 4 gig minimum and step up to the future with 64 bit.
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Saragael
"Rejoice not my enemy when I have fallen, for I shall arise and God shall be my light out of the darkness."
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Sir Buff
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Posted - 2008.09.03 02:08:00 -
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Originally by: Ordais
Originally by: CaldariCitizen90874
Edited by: CaldariCitizen90874 on 02/09/2008 20:12:17
lol, if u cant go to DX10 in gaming in the next year then there not proper gamers in my opinion :)
but i see your point, but what if there was an option to run it DX9 or DX10
Its not that ppl cant, they DONT WANT to install VISTA crap on their machine. And atm really no point, Vista will be skipped like ME and then everyone will go to DX11 or they will release DX10 for everyone.
Heh, Vista 64 is by far the most superior OS for gaming. Especially when you can throw in more than 4GB of ram into your box. And don't think that ram goes unused, running eve maxed out puts the ram at 1.5GB not counting the graphics card memory of 1GB that is being used by the game on maxed settings.
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london
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.09.03 03:01:00 -
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Originally by: IceAero
vista 64 > all.
My desktop is currently at a 5+ month up time. (and yes, it's folding when idle)
Totally, all the vista bashers need to STFU and actually use it on a decent system instead of listening to all the FUD out there.
I won't even look at win xp again, now THAT is a shitty OS.
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Xerii Raor
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Posted - 2008.09.03 04:17:00 -
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I'm currently running an intel quadcore, nvidia 9800gt, and 6 gigs of ram.
I installed windows xp 64bit, ubuntu 64bit (gusty gibbons), and vista ultimate 64bit.
So far vista has impressed me the most, but that may be due to its superior multi-threading capabilities. I though about giving OSX a shot, but then realized that I'm not a homosexual.
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Cygnus Zhada
Amarr
Reckless Corsairs
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Posted - 2008.09.03 04:31:00 -
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Originally by: Xerii Raor
I though about giving OSX a shot, but then realized that I'm not a homosexual.
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Andrue
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.09.03 07:03:00 -
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I'd rather they revamp the sound.
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[Brackley, UK]
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Jonna Andromedae
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Posted - 2008.09.03 07:15:00 -
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Originally by: CaldariCitizen90874
are u fu k ing thick mate, acers and all that crap just run vista and no more, true vista system are built custom With more than 2gigs of ram, 2gig is standard for Manufacturing comapny but after market standards i ranging from 4gig to 16gig
And if u payed $400 for a pc it must be slower than a week in the jail, get a life or a new computer
How about you actually reading what I posted?
You don't need 4 G ram for gaming. You don't need 4 G ram anything else than running your Vista with small and cute gadget clock at desktop while all your programs are preloaded into your ram so you don't have any free ram available.
2 G ram here in my gamin pc, windows xp professional sp 3, custom built, core2duo running at 3.05 GHz, 8800 GTX. Windows XP eats 220 mb of my ram. I run three eve clients with all the eye candy on.
About your market standards. You are one of those stupid peoples wich I mentioned. Vista is made to eat lot's of ram so M$ and chip manufactors can get more cash to pay the bills.
I can't understand why anyone want's to upgrade in OS wich is slower and it has crappier GUI (popup FEAST FFS).
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Jonna Andromedae
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Posted - 2008.09.03 07:18:00 -
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Originally by: Sir Buff
Heh, Vista 64 is by far the most superior OS for gaming. Especially when you can throw in more than 4GB of ram into your box. And don't think that ram goes unused, running eve maxed out puts the ram at 1.5GB not counting the graphics card memory of 1GB that is being used by the game on maxed settings.
LOL. Next do same in win xp and notice that running eve maxed out eats around half of that
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Andrue
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.09.03 07:47:00 -
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If you run 32-bit Vista there's no point having 4GB of RAM because Vista is unlikely to be able to access more than 3.2GB of it.
Vista runs fine on adequate hardware. I can dual boot my machine to XP by swapping drive cables and when I did side by side tests I could barely tell any difference.
Is Vista better than XP? Meh. The UI is better when you get used to it and UAC is great but that's about it. I wouldn't pay to move to Vista from XP but if your new machine comes with Vista then stick with it. If you have another source of a valid license then it probably is worth spending an hour upgrading.
Oh and having to reformat your PC? Fail. The days of screwed up configurations stopped with Windows 2K. Since then I have never managed to get any Windows installation into a state that required reinstallation.
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[Brackley, UK]
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FlameGlow
Legio Octae
Rebellion Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.03 07:50:00 -
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4 times RAM and CPU usage just for more bells an whistles? Thank you m$oft, but I'll stick to XP for now; on the side note linux can have much the same bells and whistles at fraction of performance hit.
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Ratchman
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Posted - 2008.09.03 07:54:00 -
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I have been using Vista since it's launch. Admittedly, there were a few initial problems, but you try to find an OS that didn't have teething problems. Since then, it has worked with superior efficiency to XP. I think some of the features on it are needlessly flashy, but you can turn them off.
I have to say that a lot of people that I have heard stating how bad Vista is do tend to be running it on systems that are just not capable of running it properley. If your system can't cope with it, then don't upgrade (or upgrade your hardware, as I did). It really is as simple as that.
Don't be so anti-progress as to instantly hate it because other people have ranted about it, or because it hasn't worked immediately. I remember all this kind of controversy with XP when that first came out. Most of the people who flamed it then, love it now, but hate the new system. Be a bit more open minded and patient people.
As far as new graphics on EVE go, they should finish off the premium graphics for all of those not done during the Trinity upgrade, then they can move onto the effects. Frankly, it would be nice to have prettier explosions (and it can be done in both DX9 or DX10). In an ideal world, I would like to see shrapnel coming off the ship's hull, and scarring from previous hits, but this is going to take a fair bit more work.
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Viliny
Oberon Incorporated
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.09.03 07:55:00 -
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Originally by: FlameGlow
4 times RAM and CPU usage just for more bells an whistles? Thank you m$oft, but I'll stick to XP for now; on the side note linux can have much the same bells and whistles at fraction of performance hit.
Linux with a emulator takes a performance hit aswell... but thats not what you said.
Im running Vista with 2Gees of ram atm and im quite happy. Im able to run 4 premium clients without any hitch.
Altough im looking forward to compare it to 4GB in 2 weeks
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2008.09.03 08:04:00 -
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Originally by: CaldariCitizen90874
Originally by: Another Forum'Alt
Doesn't matter because no os support DX10.
Vista :s wtf
yeah sort of minus sound.
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Tippia
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.09.03 08:51:00 -
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Edited by: Tippia on 03/09/2008 08:53:43
Originally by: NightmareX
Windows Server 2008 is so much better than Windows Vista that is't not funny.
Well, hey. That's what happens if you take the Vista kernel and modularise the rest of the OS to the point where there is no unwanted extraneous code bogging done the system 
Incidentally, this is the exact same conversation that took place between Win98 and Win2k: "old stuff doesn't run", "it takes too much space", "it has annoying security features", "it's slow"… Of course, all of it was complete nonsense. Gaming on '2k blew '98 out of the water (whenever it had the chance — '98 mostly just blow itself out of the water, just for fun).
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J'Mkarr Soban
Amarr
Proxenetae Invicti
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Posted - 2008.09.03 08:58:00 -
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To answer the original point, after having read through most of the dirge here on both parties, STFU and read the dev blogs. Time and time again they've said that the current release of Trinity isn't the final, and that all effects, textures and (maybe) the UI will be upgraded over time. They already have plans for this, they are already working on it, so pay attention a little.
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Sabine Demsky
Minmatar
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2008.09.03 09:02:00 -
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back to the topic, no need for DX10 support. the game isnt even close to DX 9 graphics.
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Dirtee Girl
Omega Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.09.03 09:36:00 -
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Originally by: Sabine Demsky
back to the topic, no need for DX10 support. the game isnt even close to DX 9 graphics.
exactly
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Pan Crastus
Anti-Metagaming League
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Posted - 2008.09.03 10:11:00 -
[89]
Originally by: masternerdguy
i wish it was rendered in opengl 2 cuz then they could port it instead of just wrapping it in cedega.
OpenGL is dead for games, sorry.
How to PVP: 1. buy ISK with GTCs, 2. fit cloak, learn aggro mechanics, 3. buy second account for metagaming
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Squably
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.09.03 10:19:00 -
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Originally by: CaldariCitizen90874
Edited by: CaldariCitizen90874 on 02/09/2008 20:12:17
lol, if u cant go to DX10 in gaming in the next year then there not proper gamers in my opinion :)
but i see your point, but what if there was an option to run it DX9 or DX10
Bullshit imho, will only happen if micro$hit releases DX10 for XP, vista is an epic fail
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