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Cpt Branko
Surge.
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Posted - 2008.10.31 02:32:00 -
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Originally by: Soporo
Wrong, it will be Assault Frig Online.
Only for 1v1 situations.
For gang on gang situations, BS (with maybe a few BCs mixed in) is the way to fly.
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Nofake
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Posted - 2008.10.31 12:03:00 -
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I have a cerbures and i cant hit anything with this ships flying 8km m/s nerve the speed of all cruiser.My ship cost 200 mil and its for the moment sitting in my hanger because its wothless for the moment
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lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.10.31 12:10:00 -
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Edited by: lecrotta on 31/10/2008 12:11:23
Originally by: Nofake I have a cerbures and i cant hit anything with this ships flying 8km m/s nerve the speed of all cruiser.My ship cost 200 mil and its for the moment sitting in my hanger because its wothless for the moment
So because you do not want to work in a team and use tackle and prefer to hit f1 to kill stuff the bar and skill level in eve should be lowered?. Its your understanding of team work and pvp that is worthless not your ships bud.
Cerbs make great dmg dealers, get a minmatar ship for a tackler, a logistic and ewar ship as well and your on your way to having a good team and understanding a little about making the most out of the bonuses each race has along with learning good quality pvp.
Or you could join the "cry to ccp for a nerf nerf" squad.......
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Terra Mikael
Private Nuisance
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Posted - 2008.11.01 08:32:00 -
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Originally by: lecrotta So because you do not want to work in a team and use tackle and prefer to hit f1 to kill stuff the bar and skill level in eve should be lowered?. Its your understanding of team work and pvp that is worthless not your ships bud.
So what, you're saying we should all have buddies when we leave the safety of the station? lol. you have failsauce all over you.
Originally by: lecrotta get a minmatar ship for a tackler, a logistic and ewar ship as well and your on your way to having a good team and understanding a little about making the most out of the bonuses each race has along with learning good quality pvp.
Sure, that's great for people who live in America or Europe - there's just shy of 40,000 people online when you are. For people living in Austrian and the western pacific rim like myself, there are about 10k people online when I play. It's impractical, unless I join a 0.0 alliance with 500+ members, to suggest most players can just whip out two specialized wing man to follow them around to do tackling for them.
Originally by: lecrotta Or you could join the "cry to ccp for a nerf nerf" squad.......
You fail on every account. Just because you're too incompetent to be left on your own doesn't mean there aren't pilots who are skilled enough to do so.
And there's no good reason why anyone should have to play the game the way you do just because you suck at it and want them all dumbed down to your pathetic level.
For the record, I never flew nano, an I understand why they want to fix it. But if the treatment is worse than the disease, wtf is the point?
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lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.11.01 10:13:00 -
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Originally by: Terra Mikael
So what, you're saying we should all have buddies when we leave the safety of the station? lol. you have failsauce all over you.
So you wanna F1 to kill without tackle and want the ppl you shoot at to sit still like rats until they pop.....go away loser.
Originally by: Terra Mikael Sure, that's great for people who live in America or Europe - there's just shy of 40,000 people online when you are. For people living in Austrian and the western pacific rim like myself, there are about 10k people online when I play. It's impractical, unless I join a 0.0 alliance with 500+ members, to suggest most players can just whip out two specialized wing man to follow them around to do tackling for them.
STFU and stop crying there is plenty of pilots about at all time zones in eve, just because you recruit like you pvp (relying on sheer numbers) is not the games fault. Try recruiting a bit more selectively and pointing out why you want certain races and ship pilots you will get plenty of ppl to fill in the gaps in your wings while learning a little about team work as well.
Originally by: lecrotta Or you could join the "cry to ccp for a nerf nerf" squad.......
Originally by: Terra Mikael For the record, I never flew nano, an I understand why they want to fix it. But if the treatment is worse than the disease, wtf is the point?
Terra Mikael
Losses: 14 Kills: 98
Oh yea your real uber leet.
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Deva Blackfire
D00M.
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Posted - 2008.11.01 10:42:00 -
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Originally by: Nofake I have a cerbures and i cant hit anything with this ships flying 8km m/s nerve the speed of all cruiser.My ship cost 200 mil and its for the moment sitting in my hanger because its wothless for the moment
So you are worthless pilot and you should change game to WoW or Hello Kitty online.
http://triumvirate-alliance.com/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=7571&view=ships_weapons Thats how you use/fly cerb.
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VC General
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Posted - 2008.11.02 19:16:00 -
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Quote: So because you do not want to work in a team and use tackle and prefer to hit f1 to kill stuff the bar and skill level in eve should be lowered?. Its your understanding of team work and pvp that is worthless not your ships bud.
Has nothing to do with working in a team. ATM, speed is king. When a single tactic can only be countered by the same tactic, or by fitting ships against their design, such as BS with all highs filled with large neuts, it's obviously imbalanced.
I say that your skills are worthless, thus you fear loosing a cookie cutter invulnerability tactic that even your grandma could use to be l33t in Eve pvp. Poor baby, having to use a ship that can't always do whatever it wants to whoever you want. You could always go play WoW, and sit in a pally bubble while using a speed hack. Should feel just like home.
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lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.11.02 20:11:00 -
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Edited by: lecrotta on 02/11/2008 20:15:31
OMG...
Wtf are you drooling on about you mad man you list:
1. That nano can be killed by nano
All fits can be killed by similarly fitted ships pal (not titans of course)are you gonna nerf everything...
2. That they can be killed by nuet BS
Capitals down to frigs can be killed by this setup...nerf them as well?.
3. That they can be killed by ships SPECIFICALLY fitted for tackling and killing them (my personal favorite of your deluded ranting)
So your saying that because they can be killed by ships designed and specifically fitted to kill them, by their own type and by BS fitted with a nuet they need nerfing....that applies to everything in eve also pal.
YOU FORGOT TO INCLUDE THAT THEY ARE ALSO USELESS AGAINST A CAPITAL GANG, A RR BS GANG, A LOGISTIC GANG....ECT ECT.
I fly in every form of gang and style of pvp in eve bud, nano is just one of many i trained myself to use and i have no idea what a pally bubble or speed hack is but you seem to know exactly so i suggest you go back to WOW as you seem to know it well...
PS: Be honest your just upset and you hate them cos they cannot be killed by your ratting ship that soooooooooo uber against those NPC ships.....
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Terra Mikael
Private Nuisance
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Posted - 2008.11.03 07:54:00 -
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Originally by: lecrotta So you wanna F1 to kill without tackle and want the ppl you shoot at to sit still like rats until they pop.....go away loser.
Maybe you should read what I said, or perhaps stop shooting rats long enough to understand that while soloing that you have to choose your targets wisely.
Originally by: lecrotta STFU and stop crying there is plenty of pilots about at all time zones in eve, just because you recruit like you pvp (relying on sheer numbers) is not the games fault. Try recruiting a bit more selectively and pointing out why you want certain races and ship pilots you will get plenty of ppl to fill in the gaps in your wings while learning a little about team work as well.
Not sure where you're getting these "sheer numbers" part. My argument is that this patch would CAUSE blobs because people can no longer fight even ships of the same class anymore without target painters and tacklers. Not sure where you're taking this recruiting thing...I'm not the egoist who names a corp after myself.
And I really wish you'd try to play in my timezone a while. Anyone here will tell you that the the afternoons in the tokyo timezone are dead. All the decent corps are almost totally empty during these timeframes. Whole alliance log off except for a skeleton crew. It is ****ing difficult to recruit people just in this timezone simply because the only chinese that play are isk farmers, there's a total of about 200 Japanese players, and the New Zealanders and Australians that play are seriously underpresented. And thats before you knock off half those numbers with language barriers (I don't speak aussie )
Originally by: lecrotta
Terra Mikael
Losses: 14 Kills: 98
http://www.battleclinic.com/eve_online/pk/view.php?type=player&name=Terra+Mikael&filter=kills&page=1#recent
The first five pages of BC are almost all noobship and pod kills......Oh yea your real uber leet.
Yes...Quite interesting that you would search battleclinic and prove my point...you're not even in the database. So either this means that people have the freedom to use other killboards, or it means you're a ****ing moron who thinks BC is some all-inclusive killmail posting system - which you're not even in.
Oh, and for the record, check the system, it was a gate camp. One of the few places where a gate connects zero-sec and high-sec - great place to camp for lots of lulz. I kind don't control what comes in, so everything dies. It just happens I had the highest scan res, so I got the little guys and their pods for good measure. I don't see anything wrong with that
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Stalina
Gallente Deep Space Exploration Squad
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Posted - 2008.11.04 22:44:00 -
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Thanks CCP for showing that you dont care about customers at all
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Lord EmBra
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.05 16:23:00 -
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Don't do so hugh changes!
Forget your current changes and instead do something like the following:
1. Don't have the same attributes on 100MN, 10MN and 1MN mwds. Tweak the attributes, perhaps make the best 100MN mwd capped to 550% speed, best 10MN mwd to 600% and keep the best 1MN mwd as it is today. Other, lower tier, MWDs needs to change accordingly ofc.
2. Make webbifiers use scripts. with script 20km range but only 60% speed reduction, without script keep them as they are today. this means ofc, you need to reduce the web bonus of rapiers and huginns.
3. Remove or tweak polycarbons rigs.
Keep base speeds as they are on tq today.
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ElCoCo
KIA Corp KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.05 19:09:00 -
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Are the mwd changes final? Meaning they all give 500% speed increase and they only differ in the sig radius increase, cap use and cap penalty? Boink! |
Allen Ramses
Caldari Typo Corp
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Posted - 2008.11.06 04:06:00 -
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Originally by: ElCoCo Are the mwd changes final?
It looks like ALL changes are final.
In their infinite wisdom, CCP have decided against a scalar speed mod reduction (including MWD/AB and mass mods) of 25% and fixing the rig values, but instead decided to bring the sledgehammer to most speed mods and leaving others alone.
The first option would have killed ludicrous speed, but they chose to use a flamethrower instead of a fly swatter to kill off a single fly.
And because of it, missiles and drones are more broken now than they were to begin with. ____________________ Pimped out Raven to run level 4 missions quickly: 210 Mil ISK. Realizing your 120 Mil ISK Drake gets the job done faster: Priceless. |
Khamal Jolstien
Caldari Product Number 3
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Posted - 2008.11.07 21:55:00 -
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Originally by: Allen Ramses
Originally by: ElCoCo Are the mwd changes final?
It looks like ALL changes are final.
In their infinite wisdom, CCP have decided against a scalar speed mod reduction (including MWD/AB and mass mods) of 25% and fixing the rig values, but instead decided to bring the sledgehammer to most speed mods and leaving others alone.
The first option would have killed ludicrous speed, but they chose to use a flamethrower instead of a fly swatter to kill off a single fly.
And because of it, missiles and drones are more broken now than they were to begin with.
This is the part I don't get. It used to be where things were carefully approached and considered. This is not the CCP I started paying money every month to. Is there a new marketing push/approach making them want to enforce these changes?
Or have they lost touch with how to make a video game
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Sigras
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Posted - 2008.11.08 11:37:00 -
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While my feelings on the nano nerf *cough* necessary *cough* stand aside, i propose two changes that are both realistic as to real world physics and workable as to minuscule balance tweaking.
1. Give Missiles a turning radius as opposed to explosion velocity which makes no real world sense as per the thread i posted (not to link myself). Linkage
This would also prevent people from mindlessly running away in a straight line from missiles as tracking prevents them from doing to guns. Also adding more and more of the pilots skill into the battle as he must manually avoid the missiles.
2. Add Mass to a ship as it increases in speed. This due to the great physicist Albert Einstein's theory would effectively reduce and counteract the additional thrust given by a particular vehicle's engines and could be tweaked to prevent ships from increasing to ludicrous speed
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Cpt Branko
Surge.
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Posted - 2008.11.08 15:29:00 -
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Originally by: Sigras
2. Add Mass to a ship as it increases in speed. This due to the great physicist Albert Einstein's theory would effectively reduce and counteract the additional thrust given by a particular vehicle's engines and could be tweaked to prevent ships from increasing to ludicrous speed
Yeah, but small problem is no fit in eve comes even near relativistic speeds where this is a tangible factor.
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Sigras
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Posted - 2008.11.08 15:33:00 -
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ok, point well taken, but at least this would make more sense than nerfing mods etc out of the blue.
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Cpt Branko
Surge.
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Posted - 2008.11.08 15:39:00 -
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Originally by: Sigras ok, point well taken, but at least this would make more sense than nerfing mods etc out of the blue.
Well, everything would.
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Shaka Quatuic
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Posted - 2008.11.12 00:22:00 -
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I know this is way too late to comment as the MWD changes are implemented now, but here is my idea:
make MWD a non-combat propulsion system, that allows a ship to navigate at much higher speeds - enough for interplanetary flight - yet also allows full control over direction without regard for nav fixes. it of course would not be anywhere near as fast as the primary warp drive, for instance a standard T1 MWD would allow controlled navigation at a speed of 0.3au/sec on a ship whose main warp drive can get to 3au/sec (basically a T1 MWD would have a max speed of 10% of the main warp drive the ship uses... higher meta versions of course wold be better). scramblers, disrupters and bubbles would prevent or terminate their use, and a ship in MWD mode would be unable to attack or be attacked.
this basically puts afterburners at the forefront of combat speed enhancement, and at the same time brings back the feeling of vastness EvE has been missing for a long time with the possibility of making deep safe spots again. I know many of you hate deep safes, but this is SPACE...
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ZUDD
Rubra Libertas Militia
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Posted - 2008.11.13 23:17:00 -
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Edited by: ZUDD on 13/11/2008 23:17:34
Originally by: Lyria Skydancer
As said, the nano problem has nothing to do with the ability to hit nanos. The general problem is that nano gangs with those speeds can disengage at will and there are no good counters except for blobbing back at them with nanos. Speed has too many advantages. There is no way you can justify 400-600dps cruisers going 4-5km/s and have a reasonable tank ontop of it. compare that to an inty that is just a few m/s faster, has 1/5th of the dps and 1/10th the tank. You dont see a problem? I think its pretty darn obvious tbfh.
I would sure like to know where you found an 8/8/8 slot HAC that can do all of that. I don't believe anyone here has a grasp of why nano ships are actually flown - for a degree of safety when jumping into that next 0.0 system. Nerfing speed setups again will only alienate the casual pvp crowd; nano ships have negligible tanking and there are many counters that will destroy them virtually instantly.
If you are in a well fitted BS, there is no excuse to losing against a nano ship - if he webs you you can web back and kill it instantly; if he hangs out at range, tank and move back to the gate.
The cases in which nanos are powerful are when there are a few moving around 0.0 killing hapless targets. Let me ask you this: if you are moving around 0.0 alone and you are attacked by 5 players, even if they didn't have nanos, what would your chances of surviving be?
Also, before someone from a 0.0 alliance starts complaining "people shouldnt move with impunity around our space" stop being lazy, scout and maybe actually defend the space you supposedly own.
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Muad' Dib
Gallente Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2008.11.16 01:28:00 -
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Originally by: lecrotta Edited by: lecrotta on 01/11/2008 10:23:06
Originally by: Terra Mikael
So what, you're saying we should all have buddies when we leave the safety of the station? lol. you have failsauce all over you.
So you wanna F1 to kill without tackle and want the ppl you shoot at to sit still like rats until they pop.....go away loser.
Originally by: Terra Mikael Sure, that's great for people who live in America or Europe - there's just shy of 40,000 people online when you are. For people living in Austrian and the western pacific rim like myself, there are about 10k people online when I play. It's impractical, unless I join a 0.0 alliance with 500+ members, to suggest most players can just whip out two specialized wing man to follow them around to do tackling for them.
STFU and stop crying there is plenty of pilots about at all time zones in eve, just because you recruit like you pvp (relying on sheer numbers) is not the games fault. Try recruiting a bit more selectively and pointing out why you want certain races and ship pilots you will get plenty of ppl to fill in the gaps in your wings while learning a little about team work as well.
Originally by: lecrotta Or you could join the "cry to ccp for a nerf nerf" squad.......
Originally by: Terra Mikael For the record, I never flew nano, an I understand why they want to fix it. But if the treatment is worse than the disease, wtf is the point?
Terra Mikael
Losses: 14 Kills: 98
http://www.battleclinic.com/eve_online/pk/view.php?type=player&name=Terra+Mikael&filter=kills&page=1#recent
The first five pages of BC are almost all noobship and pod kills......Oh yea your real uber leet.
lecrotta
Kills : 0 Losses : 0
Isn't that nice ? |
lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.11.16 10:56:00 -
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Edited by: lecrotta on 16/11/2008 11:02:26
Originally by: Muad' Dib
lecrotta
Kills : 0 Losses : 0
Isn't that nice ?
My main was framed i tell ya unfortunately the ccp forum police did not see it that way.........
Kills: 2,114 Losses: 130
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Bargnar
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.11.19 09:22:00 -
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I have 22736 kills to 27 losses with my main, does this qualify me for posting?
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lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.11.19 09:29:00 -
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Originally by: Bargnar I have 22736 kills to 27 losses with my main, does this qualify me for posting?
No it makes you a liar cos the top killer in eve has only 12k or so. |
Bargnar
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.11.19 22:10:00 -
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Originally by: lecrotta
Originally by: Bargnar I have 22736 kills to 27 losses with my main, does this qualify me for posting?
No it makes you a liar cos the top killer in eve has only 12k or so.
And its tells people that I am an alt, pretending I have an uber-pvp char. Like you. |
Arcazz
Shadow Company Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.11.26 15:40:00 -
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Originally by: Valuv Edited by: Valuv on 28/10/2008 03:06:52
Originally by: GreGh Rakrot
so i give you: NANO TANK!
If real life comparisons has anything to do with the game balance, this link alone should ensure that BS should be travelling at 1.5km/s speed .
This, therefore, invalidates any stupid real life analogies. It won't stop the people that has narrow understanding of the universe from posting though.
Tags: Largest Tank ever built, thousand tons, 200mph speed on desert sand.
Photoshop means anything to you?
/The Mighty
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lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.11.26 15:59:00 -
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Originally by: Bargnar
Originally by: lecrotta
Originally by: Bargnar I have 22736 kills to 27 losses with my main, does this qualify me for posting?
No it makes you a liar cos the top killer in eve has only 12k or so.
And its tells people that I am an alt, pretending I have an uber-pvp char. Like you.
So you think i "pretending" to have a uber-pvp char?....so that means if i actually do have all the kills i claim on my main your saying im uber?.
Thanx.
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Bargnar
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.12.03 21:25:00 -
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Edited by: Bargnar on 03/12/2008 21:25:30
Originally by: lecrotta
Originally by: Bargnar
Originally by: lecrotta
Originally by: Bargnar I have 22736 kills to 27 losses with my main, does this qualify me for posting?
No it makes you a liar cos the top killer in eve has only 12k or so.
And its tells people that I am an alt, pretending I have an uber-pvp char. Like you.
So you think i "pretending" to have a uber-pvp char?....so that means if i actually do have all the kills i claim on my main your saying im uber?.
Thanx.
Yes uber-alt. Indeed you are. uber-noob, uber-liar, shall I go on?
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