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Professor Alphane
Alphane Research Co-operative
314
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Posted - 2012.03.25 17:10:00 -
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Xen Solarus wrote:
Unfortunately, eve is full of dicks. Probably its greatest failing.
No the fact CCP sucks them is the problem.... 
YOU MUST THINK FIRST.... |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2149
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Posted - 2012.03.25 17:11:00 -
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Killer Gandry wrote:You can always petition it under ToS 1:
Speaking of petitions, how did yours go after the Recruitment MOTD scandal?
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2149
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Posted - 2012.03.25 17:13:00 -
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Ban Bindy wrote:These are major eve players actually encouraging people to cause a play psychological harm, and in a PUBLIC context outside the game. This cannot be accepted.
Sure it can. Especially if it's funny and it is hilarious that anybody would threaten suicide over a video game.
Anybody who does that deserves to be mocked.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Katarina Reid
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
135
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Posted - 2012.03.25 17:15:00 -
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oh no griefers on eve and drunk peeps at fanfest. Tbh if u dont want to be griefed dont make urself a target or unplug? Dont like seeing drunk peeps at fanfest DONT WATCH? |
Xen Solarus
Inner 5phere
28
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Posted - 2012.03.25 17:20:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Ban Bindy wrote:These are major eve players actually encouraging people to cause a play psychological harm, and in a PUBLIC context outside the game. This cannot be accepted. Sure it can. Especially if it's funny and it is hilarious that anybody would threaten suicide over a video game. Anybody who does that deserves to be mocked.
By the same token then, its more than allowed for the bullied person to go find his bullies in the real world and kick the **** outta them? If one is allowed, then so is the other. |
Taedrin
Kushan Industrial
402
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Posted - 2012.03.25 17:25:00 -
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Ban Bindy wrote:
These are major eve players actually encouraging people to cause a play psychological harm, and in a PUBLIC context outside the game. This cannot be accepted.
Are they breaking any laws? If so, contact the authorities.
If not, are they breaking any portion of the ToS, EULA, or ToU? If so, file a petition
If not then complaining about it on the forums is going to do you little - if any - good. |
Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
17
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Posted - 2012.03.25 17:27:00 -
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The Mittani wrote:Ban Bindy wrote:See the thread Fanfest Alliance Panel Disgusting.
See in particular post #68, in which someone's in game eve mail is posted to the forums.
If this is what these people actually did and said at the panel, this is so totally disgusting and sadistic that it can't be accepted.
I don't care about what happens in the game, since I can't do anything about it.
Holding someone up to PUBLIC ridicule in real life and following it up by encouraging people to continue this behavior on the forums, by posting the guy's eve mail to the forums, is not acceptable behavior by a human being.
You should read the thread if you want background. The quick version is that this person was apparently very rich in the tears that these plays love so much. He is referred to as depressed and suicidal. If the thread is accurate, our CSM chair encouraged people to get in touch with this guy and harass him further and gave out his name at the panel. Someone followed this up by posting one of the guy's eve mails to the forums.
These are major eve players actually encouraging people to cause a play psychological harm, and in a PUBLIC context outside the game. This cannot be accepted. deal with it~
Wow you represent me ? F**k. Oh well teaches me to vote next time.
Tal
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Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2152
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Posted - 2012.03.25 17:27:00 -
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Xen Solarus wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:Ban Bindy wrote:These are major eve players actually encouraging people to cause a play psychological harm, and in a PUBLIC context outside the game. This cannot be accepted. Sure it can. Especially if it's funny and it is hilarious that anybody would threaten suicide over a video game. Anybody who does that deserves to be mocked. By the same token then, its more than allowed for the bullied person to go find his bullies in the real world and kick the **** outta them? If one is allowed, then so is the other.
Do you realize how many people have threatened to punch goons at fanfest? It's almost a meme at this point.
But to address you point, no that would not be okay. Real life violence is actually a crime. Also, advocating for RL violence is a bannable offense in Eve Online.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2152
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Posted - 2012.03.25 17:28:00 -
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Talon SilverHawk wrote:Wow you represent me ? F**k. Oh well teaches me to vote next time.
Pubbies say this every year and next year you won't vote either.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Khanh'rhh
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
912
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Posted - 2012.03.25 17:29:00 -
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Professor Alphane wrote:Khanh'rhh wrote:Professor Alphane wrote:Forums hosts are considered 'publishing companies' under most countries laws , the same rules would apply as a public letter published in a newspaper.
Also this is one of the main reasons moderation is compulsory as publishing obsence images or selling of illegal goods/services are not looked upon kindly. The thing that stops any of these laws applying, ever, . Err yes man whatever you say Go post some kiddie pics somewhere when the law kick your door down just tell em it wasn't you it was your Avatar 
Hey, you don't get it man. That's OK, let me explain again.
Mittens is insulting and deriding a character. In no manner can you, as a third party, discover the real identity of that person. By definition, any attacks are directed at no person in particular.
See also: why stealing ISK is not criminal behaviour punishable by real world laws.
At best, you have to accept that they ARE personal attacks but are published without mentioning the name, which is also perfectly acceptable.
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"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |
Khanh'rhh
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
912
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Posted - 2012.03.25 17:32:00 -
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Kara Roideater wrote:
You're tripping over your own logical contortions here. If the name is 'for someone', then things said about that made up name are still about the same someone.
Only in the event of me making it clear that by saying "Thom Fribblebottom" I was directly inferring to POTUS. Then, when I said "lets go kill Thom Fribblebottom" I would be in the ****.
If I just make a post about Thom Fribblebottom, how he is bad, stupid and I want him to die, there is literally nothing anyone can do about it since THE PERSON IN QUESTION does not exist.
You know the difference between avatars and people, yeah?
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"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |
Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
17
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Posted - 2012.03.25 17:36:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Talon SilverHawk wrote:Wow you represent me ? F**k. Oh well teaches me to vote next time.
Pubbies say this every year and next year you won't vote either.
Ahh the plebs speak. Voter apathy for the win  |
Prince Kobol
294
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Posted - 2012.03.25 17:37:00 -
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To answer the OP
Yes it is
Many Thanks |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2153
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Posted - 2012.03.25 17:40:00 -
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Sadly, it looks like the OP saw he's being ridiculed for making a dumb post on the internet and isn't coming back to the thread.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
0oO0oOoOo0o
Caldari State
11
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Posted - 2012.03.25 17:40:00 -
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I didnt read the other thread on this, but if the story is true and if i were the victim, living in the US (or any other country with similar laws), i'd sue CCP for US-$ 500.000.000,00 for intentionally inflicting emotional distress. Sometimes people even win such cases.
An article to begin with: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intentional_infliction_of_emotional_distress |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2153
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Posted - 2012.03.25 17:40:00 -
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0oO0oOoOo0o wrote:I didnt read the other thread on this, but if the story is true and if i were the victim, living in the US (or any other country with similar laws), i'd sue CCP for US-$ 500.000.000,00 for intentionally inflicting emotional distress. Sometimes people even win such cases. An article to begin with: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intentional_infliction_of_emotional_distress
Like most internet law professionals you have no idea what you're talking about.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Kratisto
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
9
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Posted - 2012.03.25 17:42:00 -
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What about this.
We have all been laughing at a noob titan pilot (really, wtf and pathetic) who was unable to fit the proper damage mod to his guns. Would anyone be out of line for saying to an audience, "Send this guy an eve mail and congratulate him on the fullness of his mental capacity"?
I don't think so. I guess the argument is teasing vs. bullying; Everyone needs to be able to take some teasing, learn some humility, and such. Rote and brutal harassment is not good, however. Sometimes it is hard to discern the difference, and certainly the line is sometimes crossed.
If you can't take people laughing at you for making dumb mistakes, then you should probably stop playing this game. |
Thomas Abernathy
Phantom Squad
Nulli Secunda
65
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Posted - 2012.03.25 17:46:00 -
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The Mittani wrote:It's pretty funny that you have people watching a TV stream who have never been to Fanfest trying to wag their fingers and cluck as if this is Hello Kitty Online. This is EVE, and Fanfest is a drunken, shambolic revel - it always has been, if you've been to one.
Crying about people being drunk and partying at Fanfest is like crying about suicide ganking and nonconsensual PvP in the client itself.
Well I didn't watch the stream, but from all the posting, sounds like your the perfect king to this circus.....
Oh, and I should say to OP, Goon's are famous for personal attacks on live people...see Ladie Harlot....
"Fighting CCD since 2139" |
0oO0oOoOo0o
Caldari State
11
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Posted - 2012.03.25 17:47:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:
Like most internet law professionals you have no idea what you're talking about.
And you have an extremely ugly avatar face. Do yourself (and the rest of the forum community) a favour and end yourself (in game). |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2154
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Posted - 2012.03.25 17:49:00 -
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0oO0oOoOo0o wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:
Like most internet law professionals you have no idea what you're talking about.
And you have an extremely ugly avatar face. Do yourself (and the rest of the forum community) a favour and end yourself (in game).
Straight from internet lawyering to personal attacks. Classy.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Kaivar Lancer
General Exports
118
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Posted - 2012.03.25 17:59:00 -
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Hi CCP. Just so you know that I'll be letting my subscriptions lapse. The Alliance Panel et al was a disgrace. Recently, I heard that Goons scammed 80billion isk from a suicidal player who ended up in hospital. **** this. You aspies can go **** yourselves. I'm out of here. |
The Mittani
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
6318
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Posted - 2012.03.25 18:07:00 -
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Also, I didn't suggest that people evemail the guy. I suggested that they run locator agents on him and blow up his Mackinaws - which is exactly what locators are for.
The Mittani, CSM7: Vote Here - One EVE. One Vote. One Chairman
The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
1011
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Posted - 2012.03.25 18:12:00 -
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In before little bee damage control.
Damn!
To late.
Mr Epeen 
Me too!-á I ate one sour, too! |
Thomas Abernathy
Phantom Squad
Nulli Secunda
65
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Posted - 2012.03.25 18:14:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:0oO0oOoOo0o wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:
Like most internet law professionals you have no idea what you're talking about.
And you have an extremely ugly avatar face. Do yourself (and the rest of the forum community) a favour and end yourself (in game). Straight from internet lawyering to personal attacks. Classy.
Pot? Kettle? Black?
"Fighting CCD since 2139" |
Killer Gandry
V I R I I
Ineluctable.
90
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Posted - 2012.03.25 18:18:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Killer Gandry wrote:You can always petition it under ToS 1:
Speaking of petitions, how did yours go after the Recruitment MOTD scandal?
Sorry to tell you that any communications between CCP and a player are not to be published.
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Killer Gandry
V I R I I
Ineluctable.
90
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Posted - 2012.03.25 18:21:00 -
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The Mittani wrote:Also, I didn't suggest that people evemail the guy. I suggested that they run locator agents on him and blow up his Mackinaws - which is exactly what locators are for.
Still can be classified as harrassement.
Calling for harrassing people doesn't make you less responsible. But you don't care anyways so not going to discuss further with the likes of you.
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Klymer
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
8
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Posted - 2012.03.25 18:29:00 -
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So is this video up anywhere yet?
A pic http://www.evenews247.com/2012/03/fanfest-2012-alliance-panel/ doesn't really get the point across as it stands. |
Creed Richards
Xoth Inc
Omega Vector
0
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Posted - 2012.03.25 18:36:00 -
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Those that find this behaviour unacceptable should contact CCP and respectfully voice their protest. It does not matter if action is taken or not, no one of goodwill should be silent here.
God Bless |
Professor Alphane
Alphane Research Co-operative
314
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Posted - 2012.03.25 18:37:00 -
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The Mittani wrote:Also, I didn't suggest that people evemail the guy. I suggested that they run locator agents on him and blow up his Mackinaws - which is exactly what locators are for.
Dude you delibaretly targeted ingame someone you where aware was mentally unstable.....
Really
Are you proud of the outcome as well and would do the same thing again ?
YOU MUST THINK FIRST.... |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2156
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Posted - 2012.03.25 18:44:00 -
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Professor Alphane wrote:Dude you delibaretly targeted ingame someone you where aware was mentally unstable.....
Really
Are you proud of the outcome as well and would do the same thing again ?
Are we supposed to go out and get a psych evaluation for each person in-game before we blow up their ship?
Keep in mind, the evemail that was published was sent from the miner to Mittens...it's not like we hacked this guy's computer.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
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