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Lexander Morinex
Caldari LDD Investments
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Posted - 2008.09.04 15:56:00 -
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Most of the Drake designs I see use Shield Power Relay II's.
I have instead gone for Beta Core Reactor: Shield Power Relay I's. They use less CPU and seem to provide the exact same benefits. They cost more, but when you have laid out the full cost of a Drake the extra cost seems minimal.
Am I missing something?
- Lexander Morinex
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Bronson Hughes
ADVANCED Combat and Engineering
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Posted - 2008.09.04 15:59:00 -
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Edited by: Bronson Hughes on 04/09/2008 16:00:22 In general, lower fitting requirements translate into higher price. If you're trying to get a full rack of T2 heavies on a Drake, CPU gets a little tight so every little but helps. -------------------- "I am hard pressed on my right; my centre is giving way; situation excellent; I am attacking." - Ferdinand Foch at the Battle of the Marne |
Lexander Morinex
Caldari LDD Investments
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Posted - 2008.09.04 16:21:00 -
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The cost is no issue here. I am more curious if I am missing some fundamental benefit to the T2 version that makes people put it on their design. These same designs contain expensive launchers and rigs so the price isn't the issue.
I would naturally assume they would want to squeeze out a little more CPU, but perhaps they don't need it because the other skills are so high. I am just curious.
- Lexander Morinex
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Wet Ferret
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Posted - 2008.09.04 16:37:00 -
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Best named SPRs are always better, and barely cost any more.
The reason people use them in hypothetical setups is ignorance. Nothing more.
But, yeah. These forums seriously need some indicator that the post has ended and the sig has started.
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Drykor
Minmatar Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.09.04 17:11:00 -
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Another mod of this type is local hull inertia stabs and tech2 inertia stabs. And yeah most of the time it's just ignorance, though in the case of SPR's/Drake often it won't matter because you either still can or still can't fit something in the last high.
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demonfurbie
Minmatar Covert-Nexus White Core
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Posted - 2008.09.04 17:42:00 -
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availability of t2 over meta 4
t2 ones can be invented in 0.0 and in some places ya cant get the meta 4s
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Malcanis
RuffRyders Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.09.04 18:24:00 -
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Originally by: Lexander Morinex Most of the Drake designs I see use Shield Power Relay II's.
I have instead gone for Beta Core Reactor: Shield Power Relay I's. They use less CPU and seem to provide the exact same benefits. They cost more, but when you have laid out the full cost of a Drake the extra cost seems minimal.
Am I missing something?
- Lexander Morinex
It's quite common for a best-named module to be as good as T2 - or even better - but with lighter fitting requirements. Eg: Rolled Tungsten Armour Plates, best-named EW mods, etc.
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Ghengis Tia
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.09.04 20:53:00 -
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Eve Tribune #16 The Gold Standard: Module Wars - Best Named versus Tech II.
Eve-Tribune #16
Its all in here....
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Atsuko Ratu
Caldari VSP Corp.
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Posted - 2008.09.04 21:05:00 -
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Edited by: Atsuko Ratu on 04/09/2008 21:07:05 Because the extra 9-18 cpu isn't helpful.
It doesn't help fit anything and costs more. If you feel like wasting isk, go for it
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Zeba
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.09.04 23:12:00 -
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I find that with top fitting skills you don't need to use a meta 4 mod to squeeze in that last T2 weapon or damage mod. However they do shine when your trying to fit a ship with less than leet skills or for unconventional fits and the odd bastard ship that simply won't take all T2.
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Liang Nuren
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.09.04 23:17:00 -
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Originally by: Atsuko Ratu Edited by: Atsuko Ratu on 04/09/2008 21:07:05 Because the extra 9-18 cpu isn't helpful.
It doesn't help fit anything and costs more. If you feel like wasting isk, go for it
Hey now, those of us that don't have electronics 5 resent that...
-Liang -- I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent. -- Mahatma Gandhi |
Johann Callasan
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Posted - 2008.09.05 02:19:00 -
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Originally by: Lexander Morinex Most of the Drake designs I see use Shield Power Relay II's.
I have instead gone for Beta Core Reactor: Shield Power Relay I's. They use less CPU and seem to provide the exact same benefits. They cost more, but when you have laid out the full cost of a Drake the extra cost seems minimal.
Am I missing something?
- Lexander Morinex
A lot of times, it's simply a cost issue.
These days, a lot of named T1 gear simply costs more thant he (inventable) T2 variants - soetimes by a large margin.
Let's take as a example heavy launchers (germane to a Drake).
"Arbalest" Heavy Launchers in the Lonetrek region are 16 mil apeice.
Heavy Missile Launcher II inthe same region is 1.5 mil.
Smae is true of a lot of other named T1 over T2 gear. Not all, admittedly, and haven't researched SPRs in particular - you may want to check in your region.
That'd be one reason - other would be that T2 gear satisfies a lot of other people's e-peens in ways that named T1 doesn't :)
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Lexander Morinex
Caldari LDD Investments
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Posted - 2008.09.05 02:40:00 -
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Well, I don't have 'elite' skills, so the extra CPU is a big help for me. So I use the lower CPU item, even with the extra cost.
My question was essentially answered. There is no 'hidden' benefit I was missing. For me, with my maxed out CPU on my Drake the T2 item is not enough for me. If it was, I would buy the T2 since I can fit the items but I need the CPU and can afford the parts.
- Lexander Morinex
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BiggestT
Caldari Space Oddysey Pupule 'Ohana
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Posted - 2008.09.05 03:10:00 -
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Edited by: BiggestT on 05/09/2008 03:11:35
Originally by: Lexander Morinex The cost is no issue here. I am more curious if I am missing some fundamental benefit to the T2 version that makes people put it on their design. These same designs contain expensive launchers and rigs so the price isn't the issue.
I would naturally assume they would want to squeeze out a little more CPU, but perhaps they don't need it because the other skills are so high. I am just curious.
- Lexander Morinex
Its simply better to b able to use t2 if your in 0.0 space is best-named mods either go through the roof (like 1000+% increases in price), or simply arent htere. While t2 prices remain similar to before and are ussually in good supply.
Tho in emp and isk's no issue, t1 named for sure..
edit: typo
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Wet Ferret
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Posted - 2008.09.05 05:00:00 -
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Originally by: Atsuko Ratu Edited by: Atsuko Ratu on 04/09/2008 21:07:05 Because the extra 9-18 cpu isn't helpful.
It doesn't help fit anything and costs more. If you feel like wasting isk, go for it
Ummmm.
I use 3 BCUs on every setup and have maxed fitting skills. I must use faction hardeners to fit everything and without the named SPR I would have to downgrade a launcher.
But it's useless. Yeahhhhhhh okay.
But, yeah. These forums seriously need some indicator that the post has ended and the sig has started.
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Spaztick
Canadian Imperial Armaments EVESpace
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Posted - 2008.09.05 05:10:00 -
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If you're not fitting HAMs, T2 power relays are just fine. You don't really need the extra CPU to fit anything. Now fitting HAMs on the other hand...but then again, why are you putting an SPR on a PvP fitted drake? I have more issues with powergrid than CPU on a HAM fitted drake anyway (adv wep upgrades are only to I). But seriously, more people should have some type of spacer in their sigs to show it's not part of the post.
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Wet Ferret
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Posted - 2008.09.05 05:17:00 -
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Originally by: Spaztick If you're not fitting HAMs, T2 power relays are just fine. You don't really need the extra CPU to fit anything. Now fitting HAMs on the other hand...but then again, why are you putting an SPR on a PvP fitted drake? I have more issues with powergrid than CPU on a HAM fitted drake anyway (adv wep upgrades are only to I).
That's just it. 90% of the setups posted for Drakes are for PvE.
But obviously in a "throwaway" fitting, the cheaper mod would be considered better as long as everything fits.
But, yeah. These forums seriously need some indicator that the post has ended and the sig has started.
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Pottsey
Enheduanni Foundation
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Posted - 2008.09.05 06:38:00 -
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"If you're not fitting HAMs, T2 power relays are just fine. You don't really need the extra CPU to fit anything." A few of my railgun setups over various ships need 1 or 2 beta relays due to CPU problems. ____ Telltale sign of their presence is non-linear teleportation (www.eve-online.com/races/theodicy/Theodicy_All.pdf)
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