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Nova Fox
Gallente Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2008.09.06 03:18:00 -
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SOE Explorer Ship concept by novafox shipyards
Dear CSM, CCP recently updated thier drawing board and has future plans for exploration and science vessels.
I have an extensive 15 page plan on my computer now about introducing SOE ships as the premeire civillian science vesses where as ORE would be seen as a equal in industry.
The way I have it setup is a love hate realtionship between the two organizations they paritally can benifit from each other but most of the time one sides actions will short change the others.
I also plan to have SOE to be just as extensive as their ORE counter parts, currently ORE is used to mine Ice, Roids, and Gas and a capitol to increase logistics ability. Although expected of a mining ship this gives them into three different markets something thats SOE is going to have a hard time getting to compete with.
SOE products would be for artifacts (current cosmos) exploration and data in an attempt to be competitive with ORE and help generate this love hate relationship.
The idea goes as far as from the simple civillian ship to its most advanced variant, a support capitol ship, and further expands to player owned empire mechanics similar to how moon miners are used the science equivalent would compete with it.
The end idea is to allow for expansion of other civillian branches (salvage and hacking) to also be added and provide thier services that would assist thier allies and disassist thier not so friendly neighbors, ie: Salvaging clears out riod belts of garbage keeping them healthy for miners while SOE would rather keep those garbage places to look for important data that might collect there.
The reason why I was delaying the publishing of the notes (let alone streamline them) was the fact i wanted to get a visual aspect done first. however time seems to be shortening for me so I think in order to get this idea out early enough to make a decision impact on CCP before they go to far into this on thier own patch and having a new suggestion getting introduced may cause hardships on the development as they consider the two options vs how far they already got done.
If you approve of making this suggestion to be heard I would love to see support though suggestions thoughs and changes as this is for the entire eve player base not just myself before we, the players via CSM, submit a finalized suggestion to ccp.
The little guy with too much imagination, <^-^> Nova Fox
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LaVista Vista
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Posted - 2008.09.06 06:05:00 -
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Could you maybe try and outline the range of ships and their specific use cases?
The concept looks interesting indeed. I like the colour scheme.
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Nova Fox
Gallente Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2008.09.06 06:21:00 -
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Originally by: LaVista Vista Could you maybe try and outline the range of ships and their specific use cases?
The concept looks interesting indeed. I like the colour scheme.
I was going to plan on posting this in full in features and ideas if csm agrees to at least take a look at it.
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LaVista Vista
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Posted - 2008.09.06 06:28:00 -
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Originally by: Nova Fox
Originally by: LaVista Vista Could you maybe try and outline the range of ships and their specific use cases?
The concept looks interesting indeed. I like the colour scheme.
I was going to plan on posting this in full in features and ideas if csm agrees to at least take a look at it.
I'd happily take a look
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Nova Fox
Gallente Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2008.09.06 06:38:00 -
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Ill be assembeling the document into fourm format for easy reading then and ill hit this page up once its finished, if you have any possible bright ideas hit this thread up and ill see about it.
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Nova Fox
Gallente Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2008.09.08 09:14:00 -
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Dropping a line to update my progress on making my idea presentable.
anyways 3 posts made and chopped down 4 of the 15 pages out so only 11 more pages remain and 6 of those are for the ships stats themselves so i got about 5 more pages of things to post and try to reduce down into a more to the point lesser detail and more playing around room idea.
If there is a certain time limit you guys have for me to get this done I would love to know and may just chope out a few pages of the idea to get it done in time.
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Arithron
Gallente Gallente Trade Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.08 15:35:00 -
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Ship stats etc will be up to CCP to decide and debate if they like the idea!
Post your general design and capabilities for this class of ship, and why (the reasons) it's needed.
Oh, and don't forget to succinctly state what the current issue is by not having it!
Take care, Arithron
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LaVista Vista
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Posted - 2008.09.08 19:09:00 -
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Originally by: Arithron Ship stats etc will be up to CCP to decide and debate if they like the idea!
Post your general design and capabilities for this class of ship, and why (the reasons) it's needed.
Oh, and don't forget to succinctly state what the current issue is by not having it!
Take care, Arithron
It won't hurt to include some stats. But it's certainly not needed as long as you include the bonuses and what amount of slots it will have
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Nova Fox
Gallente Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2008.09.08 23:40:00 -
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Originally by: Arithron Ship stats etc will be up to CCP to decide and debate if they like the idea!
Post your general design and capabilities for this class of ship, and why (the reasons) it's needed.
Oh, and don't forget to succinctly state what the current issue is by not having it!
Take care, Arithron
Of course the design angle paragraph would be included, also the first 4 pages of the suggestion are what going to allow the new ships to exist and prosper as it will be about a new profression the field scientist.
IMO the current issue of not having an SOE ship is a not so diverse job market not involving pew pew, I seek to end this and increase compition for resources and the sort.
Ill be getting hopefully the last two core posts done today involving reason and system to be introduced, then copy paste most of the ship stats over after i nerfed them.
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Nova Fox
Gallente Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2008.09.08 23:41:00 -
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Originally by: LaVista Vista
It won't hurt to include some stats. But it's certainly not needed as long as you include the bonuses and what amount of slots it will have
True I can probably save about 7 pages killing the cargo and other non stats.
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Pirc Balar
Minmatar Destruction Reborn
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Posted - 2008.09.09 01:39:00 -
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Have you read the empyrean age novel? The reason I ask is that there is an element of the amar storyline that could connect quite well to expanding exploration.
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Amy Wang
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Posted - 2008.09.11 12:39:00 -
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interesting concept
as for possible bonuses how about scan probe duration bonus, probe accuracy bonus, probe launcher fitting bonus (to not give the ship imbalanced cpu amount), hacking success bonus or something along these lines
e.g. you could have a cruiser sized ship (or even bigger variants) with the same scan time as a covert (or at least faster scan time as in 5% per level) but without the cloaking benefit, advantage would be that you could run certain plexes directly after scanning them out without having to change ships
another question is what skills would these ships need? two (or even more) empire faction skillsets (e.g. all races cruiser to 2 for the cruiser sized craft) or would they need a new unique skillset like the ORE ships (e.g. exploration craft skill rank 4 or something like that) ?
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Nova Fox
Gallente Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2008.09.13 20:14:00 -
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Originally by: Amy Wang interesting concept
as for possible bonuses how about scan probe duration bonus, probe accuracy bonus, probe launcher fitting bonus (to not give the ship imbalanced cpu amount), hacking success bonus or something along these lines
e.g. you could have a cruiser sized ship (or even bigger variants) with the same scan time as a covert (or at least faster scan time as in 5% per level) but without the cloaking benefit, advantage would be that you could run certain plexes directly after scanning them out without having to change ships
another question is what skills would these ships need? two (or even more) empire faction skillsets (e.g. all races cruiser to 2 for the cruiser sized craft) or would they need a new unique skillset like the ORE ships (e.g. exploration craft skill rank 4 or something like that) ?
Tech1 ships scan bonuses are similar to covert ops the tech 2s go albit further
No empire faction skills required just archeology to a certain level and spaceship command and will get thier own skill set.
Anyways the idea is posted in features ideas and discussion now its a very long post and still have alot of construciton going on.
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Darth Shenron
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Posted - 2008.10.09 20:53:00 -
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Originally by: Nova Fox Edited by: Nova Fox on 13/09/2008 21:44:20 Dear CSM, CCP recently updated thier drawing board and has future plans for exploration and science vessels.
The idea goes as far as from the simple civillian ship to its most advanced variant, a support capitol ship, and further expands to player owned empire mechanics similar to how moon miners are used the science equivalent would compete with it Nova Fox
seems like the start of a good idea to me
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Rashella Ta'Verias
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Posted - 2008.10.13 12:32:00 -
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Hmmmm... One minor detail though. I hope stuff like LP and standing stays out of the picture.
You know a lot of Amarr & Caldari Pilots with good SoE standing? Didn't think so.... |
Kenpachi Viktor
Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2008.10.27 07:22:00 -
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I look forward to your finished product
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