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Tarek Tarazul
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Posted - 2008.09.12 18:30:00 -
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Edited by: Tarek Tarazul on 12/09/2008 18:45:55 It already got posted some time before, but i will repost the
LHC-Rap(The only Rap-Song i really like)
and LHC in 3 Minutes
3 billion is peanuts to almost any other budgets of western nations, and in this case many participate(d), and as was already posted several times, (so I will cut it short) particle accelerators, and the technology developed for building and using them, already had quite an impact on our new applied science.
The fact that you can play eve is one of them... uh though it's not exactly science. But anyway:
Originally by: Shadowsword
Without fundamental science, there is no applied science...
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Alz Shado
Ever Flow HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2008.09.12 21:20:00 -
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Just in case you're worried about the possibility of the LHC destroying the earth. //// ---------=== []= ---------=== \\\\ Rifter(RedBad)
"Kill a man one is a murderer; kill a million, a conqueror; kill them all, a God." -- Jean Rostand |
Niko medes
Gallente Dark Dominion
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Posted - 2008.09.12 21:46:00 -
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Originally by: Alz Shado Just in case you're worried about the possibility of the LHC destroying the earth.
You win my friend.
Dark Dominion |
mamolian
Madhatters Inc.
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Posted - 2008.09.12 22:16:00 -
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LHC Webcam
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Jacob Mei
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Posted - 2008.09.12 22:28:00 -
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Originally by: mamolian LHC Webcam
Oh thats too good -------------------------------- To borrow a phrase:
Players who post are like stars, there are bright ones and those who are dim.
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Toshiro GreyHawk
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Posted - 2008.09.13 21:59:00 -
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LOL!
I need new glasses.
That or I'm becoming dyslexic ...
I won't say what I thought the title of this thread was referring to ...
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Captain Fandango
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Posted - 2008.09.28 11:08:00 -
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Originally by: Liberator 1 *Shakes fist at crazy people!
In the battle of good causes if its LHC vs Feeding the Starving, Feeding the Starving wins !
Geddit ?
the mistake you're making is in presuming that 'good causes' are what people are intrested in. Truth is people are intrinsicly self centred and selfish. now, before you have a hissy fit, i dont see anything wrong in this; its the way we are conditioned, and all animals are the same. Why should we care about the starving people? sure it sounds harsh, but what actual benifit does it give us? other than stopping us feeling guilty? the infliction of fake-morales prevalent throughout this thread are far, far more laughable than the 'waste' of mnoney used in creating a particle projecter. and why shouldnt they? shouldnt people be free to spend their money however they liked? you certainly do, after all, you play eve.
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Chr0nosX
Ore Mongers Black Hand.
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Posted - 2008.09.28 14:05:00 -
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If we understand Mass better we might be able to make energy cheaply: E=MC^2.
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Eran Laude
Gallente The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2008.09.28 14:08:00 -
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The best aid we can give the Third World is education and political support. We see the West bribing other nations with food aid, and China bribing them with development projects. However, what really matters to these nations is the ability to use their own expertise to slowly develop on their own. The UN's 2000 development pledge could have been cut down to a few very, very basic lines, i.e. :
We, the UN, pledge to give every child in the world a first-class education so as to raise the quality of living in the LEDW.
Aside from that, the only things we should be giving them are tools and tips on how to grow crops, sending farmers from the MEDW over to the LEDW to teach them how to farm more efficiently, sending MEDW doctors over there to train others in medicine, rather than a few privileged LEDW families sending their sons and daughters over here, and restricting the arms trade to the LEDW.
I honestly believe that education, tools and training are the best things we can offer the LEDW. Direct food and financial aid just prolongs the LEDW's misery.
However, the OP is suggesting in essence that science is mutually exclusive with the development of poor nations. This is simply not the case. Scientific advancements have done the LEDW a world of good in the part 50 years. Improvements in genetic engineering mean that HYV crops are grown all across South-East asia, improving yields by up to 5x in some cases. With the age of space-based communications and the internet, access to knowledge in third world cities in particular is massively improved, and this has indirectly and unwittingly aided development through education with the vast resources of the internet at your disposal. The LHC, if successful, will finally give physicists a near-complete picture of mass. The space age has lead to the era of mobile phones and cheap telecoms over the internet, so who's to say that the LHC won't result in something equally as amazing as that?
In short for the tl;dr crowd, there is enough actual capital floating around the Western world to ensure that we can develop our technology as well as other nations.
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Dantes Revenge
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.09.28 14:57:00 -
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Originally by: Liberator 1 Edited by: Liberator 1 on 10/09/2008 07:52:10 There should be a list of problems that we, humanity should attempt to solve. It starts like this:
1. Stop people dying from lack of water/clean water. 2. Feed the starving. 3. Stop people from dying of entirely preventable diseases like TB,flu,diarrhoea etc.
Nature will always find a balance. Cure one disease and another will take it's place, (AIDS, MRSA etc). We have cured so many "incurable" diseases over the past decade or so that nature has rewarded us with new superbugs that will prevent the population from expanding to uncontrollable levels.
Preventing the population cull by nature will only serve to spark another new super virus to ensure the cull continues on schedule. You can't tell mum how to run her world, she's been doing it a lot longer than we have
-- There's a simple difference between kinky and perverted. Kinky is using a feather to get her in the mood. Perverted is using the whole chicken. |
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Lubomir Penev
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Posted - 2008.09.28 20:49:00 -
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Originally by: Liberator 1
There should be a list of problems that we, humanity should attempt to solve. It starts like this:
1. Stop people dying from lack of water/clean water. 2. Feed the starving. 3. Stop people from dying of entirely preventable diseases like TB,flu,diarrhoea etc. . . 345. Go back to the moon. . . . 567. Go to Mars. . . 894. Build a giant particle accelerator to answer a question most people don't care about much less understand so some scientists can go 'Oh yeah, thats why we have mass then.'
. . . . . 1576. Build a supercomputer so people can play Internet spaceships -- I'm done whining about AFs, it looks like they are making them right \o/ |
Mutabae
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Posted - 2008.09.29 02:38:00 -
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This is harsh to say, but why should I care about starving people I don't know? Only an extremely small amount of them would, if given everything they need, accomplish anything more noteable than making more kids and breathing in and out (this applies to my own country as well, the difference being I know some of my countrymates and can identify with them). When I see starving babies on TV from yet another devastated part of Africa, I feel no shame in changing the channel and making another fat steak on the bbq.
I'm sure there are a couple potential Einstein's starving to death right now, but 99.9999999% of those people are more likely to butcher each other given the chance, than help them.
Fortunately for them, my government believes otherwise and is actively trying to feed, clothe and educate some of them. However, if I were to find out they'd all died and their death made no day to day difference to me, I'd shrug my shoulders and get on with my life.
So, physics that can improve my life is better than more funds for starving babies with distended bellies.
Selfish of me, but at least I'm honest.
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Intense Thinker
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Posted - 2008.09.29 03:08:00 -
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Originally by: Dantes Revenge
Originally by: Liberator 1 Edited by: Liberator 1 on 10/09/2008 07:52:10 There should be a list of problems that we, humanity should attempt to solve. It starts like this:
1. Stop people dying from lack of water/clean water. 2. Feed the starving. 3. Stop people from dying of entirely preventable diseases like TB,flu,diarrhoea etc.
Nature will always find a balance. Cure one disease and another will take it's place, (AIDS, MRSA etc). We have cured so many "incurable" diseases over the past decade or so that nature has rewarded us with new superbugs that will prevent the population from expanding to uncontrollable levels.
Preventing the population cull by nature will only serve to spark another new super virus to ensure the cull continues on schedule. You can't tell mum how to run her world, she's been doing it a lot longer than we have
We cured HIV once already... then we found out it's one of the fastest mutating virii out there and that we're totally screwed (ZING!)
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Taradis
Amarr The Imperial Assassins Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2008.09.29 07:22:00 -
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Originally by: Abrazzar The problem here is money, not the LHC. If we get rid of money the issue is solved.
Dont forget the religon along with the money oooo and politics that has to go fer sure
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Taradis
Amarr The Imperial Assassins Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2008.09.29 07:24:00 -
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I was disapointed it was shutdown blah! would have been cool to see that badboy fire up...
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