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Shogun Archer
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Posted - 2012.03.27 08:00:00 -
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Acwron wrote:The Mittani wrote:..................................................
These are words, not facts. FACT is what you did. Apologizes are WORDS. BLA, BLA, BLA....GTFO.
Seriously man, changing it up a little bit doesn't make it any better. I'd quit trying.
Edit: Oh... NM. I'm confused. Feel like I just got hit with a stupid stick. My bad. If you run into more than 2 a**holes in a day, you should probably look in the mirror. |
Zhade Lezte
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
18
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Posted - 2012.03.27 08:00:00 -
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Snow Axe wrote:Words are meaningless! Except those words you used that caused all of this bull, those words weren't. These ones are though!
Not empty quoting.
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Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope Gallente Federation
42
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Posted - 2012.03.27 08:01:00 -
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In his hour of need, what would really help mittens would be if his idiot goon supporters laid off the spiteful posts.
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Acwron
Meet The Fockers Vera Cruz Alliance
22
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Posted - 2012.03.27 08:01:00 -
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Andski wrote:Acwron wrote:The Mittani wrote:..................................................
These are words, not facts. FACT is what you did. Apologizes are WORDS. BLA, BLA, BLA....GTFO. neither you nor the raiden/ncdot badposters in this thread care about the dude in question, the incident or anything, it's just a nice opportunity to make veiled complaints about the titan nerf also you should have watched the fanfest presentation he showed everyone your tears shame that he didn't name you
Actually people care but you're blinded by the plex mittani is giving you every month for writing so many posts. I do understand you in a way... BUT IS WRONG !
Get mittens out of here on the back door. |
David Cedarbridge
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
129
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Posted - 2012.03.27 08:02:00 -
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Mokanor Lenak wrote:Vile rat wrote:As the person who sat with him at the fish restaurant a day before his presentation going over his notes I can field this one a little bit. I mean either take what I'm saying at face value or not, it doesn't matter much, but I'm not really known for making stuff up so here you go.
It wasn't somebody trying to be edgy or even king of space'y, or was somebody trying to be funny and not realizing that what is funny to some could be really insulting to others. The whole alliance presentation was a disaster before it even began because it consisted of unfunny chatlogs being read aloud which wasn't terribly helpful, but you should have seen the thread he posted looking for ideas on our forum which wasn't a whole lot of help either. So he collected what we found funny as a subgroup of eve, tears in chatlogs, and read them to show what kinds of letters he gets in response to our in game activities by people who take the game way too seriously.
The guy who got super mad that we blew up his spaceship did in fact send him a letter full of drama saying he was going to do this or that and frankly Mittens should have forwarded it to CCP and authorities so the guy could have had his account banned and received the proper help if he really needed it. It was a poor choice of logs to read aloud during this event for many reasons, but for many of us the biggest reason is reading chatlogs isn't funny. It's not entertaining. Who the hell wants to hear some dude read a bunch of logs?
I think he should be banned from giving Alliance presentations for those reasons but he's done a fantastic job as a CSM and that should be the end of it. Its great that he does a good job in CSM and has a good reputation among friends. But its enough to do one small (or big) bad thing to kill all that reputation and smear his name forever. For the rest of it, poor choice of letters or chat logs, he should have been more careful, and saying that just for getting some laughts,that is just as sad. As a CSM chairman and someone who consider himself as a leader and decision maker in the game, he should have known better. Drunk and joking are bad excuses for that.
Great, so we've reached the point that everyone else seems to be missing. Mittens is guilty of trying to make a funny off-hand comment and failing to be funny. Clearly unfunny people are not to be allowed onto our super serious space government panel. |
Shogun Archer
50
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Posted - 2012.03.27 08:03:00 -
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Acwron wrote:Andski wrote:Acwron wrote:The Mittani wrote:..................................................
These are words, not facts. FACT is what you did. Apologizes are WORDS. BLA, BLA, BLA....GTFO. neither you nor the raiden/ncdot badposters in this thread care about the dude in question, the incident or anything, it's just a nice opportunity to make veiled complaints about the titan nerf also you should have watched the fanfest presentation he showed everyone your tears shame that he didn't name you Actually people care but you're blinded by the plex mittani is giving you every month for writing so many posts. I do understand you in a way... BUT IS WRONG ! Get mittens out of here on the back door.
oooooohhhh. So it's not about the poor guy who's dpressed??? It's about THE PLEX !!!!
If you run into more than 2 a**holes in a day, you should probably look in the mirror. |
Jastra
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
14
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Posted - 2012.03.27 08:03:00 -
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The Mittani wrote: good apology
Props dude |
orphenshadow
Easy Co. Fatal Ascension
15
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Posted - 2012.03.27 08:03:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:In his hour of need, what would really help mittens would be if his idiot goon supporters laid off the spiteful posts.
What spiteful posts? |
David Cedarbridge
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
129
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Posted - 2012.03.27 08:03:00 -
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Acwron wrote:Andski wrote:Acwron wrote:The Mittani wrote:..................................................
These are words, not facts. FACT is what you did. Apologizes are WORDS. BLA, BLA, BLA....GTFO. neither you nor the raiden/ncdot badposters in this thread care about the dude in question, the incident or anything, it's just a nice opportunity to make veiled complaints about the titan nerf also you should have watched the fanfest presentation he showed everyone your tears shame that he didn't name you Actually people care but you're blinded by the plex mittani is giving you every month for writing so many posts. I do understand you in a way... BUT IS WRONG ! Get mittens out of here on the back door.
Better in than out I always say.
Also, if I were getting free plex, I'd never have to log in again~ |
Fenris Deka
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
9
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Posted - 2012.03.27 08:03:00 -
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Acwron wrote:Andski wrote:Acwron wrote:The Mittani wrote:..................................................
These are words, not facts. FACT is what you did. Apologizes are WORDS. BLA, BLA, BLA....GTFO. neither you nor the raiden/ncdot badposters in this thread care about the dude in question, the incident or anything, it's just a nice opportunity to make veiled complaints about the titan nerf also you should have watched the fanfest presentation he showed everyone your tears shame that he didn't name you Actually people care but you're blinded by the plex mittani is giving you every month for writing so many posts. I do understand you in a way... BUT IS WRONG ! Get mittens out of here on the back door.
IF you think this, seriously think this is going on, you are a complete moron. |
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Selene Theron
Hedion University Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2012.03.27 08:04:00 -
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Zagdul wrote:Spectre80 wrote:actions speak louder than words. anybody can write apology letter. I agree, that's why he gave the dude over 10b isk (all the isk in his - the mittani's wallet). There's not much more he can do to show that he is genuinely apologetic for offending anyone. If he did that thats commendable. Now let him repair the bad press damage. There is only one logical option imo. |
Graic Gabtar
The Lemon Party
29
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Posted - 2012.03.27 08:04:00 -
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The Mittani
Account hacked c/d |
Gossamer DT
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
71
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Posted - 2012.03.27 08:04:00 -
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Amity Lane wrote:Andski wrote:(snip) just a nice opportunity to make veiled complaints about the titan nerf (snip) Interesting how the only mention of Titan nerfs in any of these MittaniGate threads are in accusations such as this.
well it's the only way we can defend such actions. I mean really..or it could be tinfoil hat time, or possible, wait for it, the trurth behind such delayed reactions to the Alliance panel 3 days ago.
hey are you a spy? I am just wondering, becase you seem to be hiding your real main and I can't figure out why.
shameless snip edit... who is your main, and what does he do? |
Zagdul
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
465
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Posted - 2012.03.27 08:05:00 -
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Acwron wrote:Andski wrote:Acwron wrote:The Mittani wrote:..................................................
These are words, not facts. FACT is what you did. Apologizes are WORDS. BLA, BLA, BLA....GTFO. neither you nor the raiden/ncdot badposters in this thread care about the dude in question, the incident or anything, it's just a nice opportunity to make veiled complaints about the titan nerf also you should have watched the fanfest presentation he showed everyone your tears shame that he didn't name you Actually people care but you're blinded by the plex mittani is giving you every month for writing so many posts. I do understand you in a way... BUT IS WRONG ! Get mittens out of here on the back door.
I get no plex for my posting.
I am a bad poster.
I would however, vote for mittens again if only to get more tears like this to quote.
It's not Rocket Surgery |
David Cedarbridge
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
130
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Posted - 2012.03.27 08:06:00 -
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Selene Theron wrote:Zagdul wrote:Spectre80 wrote:actions speak louder than words. anybody can write apology letter. I agree, that's why he gave the dude over 10b isk (all the isk in his - the mittani's wallet). There's not much more he can do to show that he is genuinely apologetic for offending anyone. If he did that thats commendable. Now let him repair the bad press damage. There is only one logical option imo.
I don't think you know half as much about PR as you think you do. Please dazzle us with your credentials. |
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam Amarr Empire
134
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Posted - 2012.03.27 08:06:00 -
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Vile rat wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:10,000 subscriptions* Probably closer to 4,000 or less subscribers. Is there a difference? Well it strikes me that painting his election as 10,000 individual players voting for your beloved leader is a bit off the mark. Having votes tied to individual accounts creates opportunities to game the system. I'm just wondering what the largest power bloc in the game would do if you could buy votes for 450 million ISK... Support showing T2 and faction frequency crystal damage in the info window! |
Amity Lane
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
53
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Posted - 2012.03.27 08:07:00 -
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David Cedarbridge wrote:Amity Lane wrote:SmilingVagrant wrote:Amity Lane wrote:Fact #1: The Mittani said he was going to resign.
Fact #2: The Mittani has not resigned.
Still waiting on an explanation here. You do realize he's just resigning the chair right? And that he can only do so on the suffrage of the other CSM members? Interesting how now it's just "resigning the chair", and not his CSM position. I guess since he wasn't explicit earlier this isn't technically revisionism, but I think to pretty much everyone it was implied that he was going to be resigning his CSM position. We've been lawyer'd, it seems. Interesting. No, like so much of what you and you ilk have been braying for this whole thread long (over what is essentially a non-issue blown out of proportion by gaming bloggers, certainly not a new concept if you are at all familiar with the way that gaming blogs work) you have created a vision of what YOU want to happen and then get disappointed when your vision doesn't come about. Yes, you still get to deal with the legally elected CSM Mittani and all of those terrible things that are going to make the game better for the rest of us that he is pushing. Face it, you and the rest of your hillariously misguided false rage club are upset that a second attempt at getting Mittens off the CSM roster is falling through. The election didn't work out for you, and here overblowing a non-event overblown already in some rather poor quality blogs (never was a fan of Massively or their like in the first place and their spotty coverage of this issue doesn't help improve their image with me either) in a ploy to push for resignation isn't going to work either. What's the next plan? Chase him with a team of photographers to catch him playing other games than EVE?
Sorry, I'd missed this one in the forum scroll. Anyway...
TL;DR.
But seriously, it wasn't just me. Even some of your own people thought he was going to be stepping down from his CSM position...to the point where his old lady had to explain otherwise:
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3447025&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=279#post401946037
But it seems there's no arguing with any of you. I may be many things, but surprised is not one of them.
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Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
320
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Posted - 2012.03.27 08:07:00 -
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Like I said roughly the same time last year:
"Give him enough rope...."
And sure enough, someone did. In irae, veritas. |
Vile rat
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1050
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Posted - 2012.03.27 08:08:00 -
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Mokanor Lenak wrote:Vile rat wrote:As the person who sat with him at the fish restaurant a day before his presentation going over his notes I can field this one a little bit. I mean either take what I'm saying at face value or not, it doesn't matter much, but I'm not really known for making stuff up so here you go.
It wasn't somebody trying to be edgy or even king of space'y, or was somebody trying to be funny and not realizing that what is funny to some could be really insulting to others. The whole alliance presentation was a disaster before it even began because it consisted of unfunny chatlogs being read aloud which wasn't terribly helpful, but you should have seen the thread he posted looking for ideas on our forum which wasn't a whole lot of help either. So he collected what we found funny as a subgroup of eve, tears in chatlogs, and read them to show what kinds of letters he gets in response to our in game activities by people who take the game way too seriously.
The guy who got super mad that we blew up his spaceship did in fact send him a letter full of drama saying he was going to do this or that and frankly Mittens should have forwarded it to CCP and authorities so the guy could have had his account banned and received the proper help if he really needed it. It was a poor choice of logs to read aloud during this event for many reasons, but for many of us the biggest reason is reading chatlogs isn't funny. It's not entertaining. Who the hell wants to hear some dude read a bunch of logs?
I think he should be banned from giving Alliance presentations for those reasons but he's done a fantastic job as a CSM and that should be the end of it. Its great that he does a good job in CSM and has a good reputation among friends. But its enough to do one small (or big) bad thing to kill all that reputation and smear his name forever. For the rest of it, poor choice of letters or chat logs, he should have been more careful, and saying that just for getting some laughts,that is just as sad. As a CSM chairman and someone who consider himself as a leader and decision maker in the game, he should have known better. Drunk and joking are bad excuses for that.
Oh it was a poor choice. I agree wholeheartedly!
So does Mittens, thus the apology. I believe it was heartfelt and I'm pretty damn sure we won't be seeing him do this again. That aside he's done a good job as CSM and I see no reason why he can't continue in this role. Also those of you saying he should step down as chair are kinda dumbos. The role is a made up role that has no power at all. Might as well say he needs to step down as princess cloudbloom of the fairy kingdom. It hasn't actually meant anything since we stopped doing formal meetings with people voting on things.
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Algia Knightstorm
Cloak and Daggers Fidelas Constans
32
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Posted - 2012.03.27 08:08:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:In his hour of need, what would really help mittens would be if his idiot goon supporters laid off the spiteful posts.
What hour of need? This is not some bullshit crisis. Mittens didn't **** or murder anyone. No one's lost any life, limb or eyesight, no one's lost any money. A few pubbies got butthurt over something that The Mittani said. They took the words of someone they didn't like and used it to fuel a fire that had no right being stoked in the first place. Mittens apologized for a casual offhand remark, the remark's recipient had no knowledge and give no ***** about it. No harm, no foul, move along, go back to bitching about the Titan nerf and how non consensual PvP doesn't belong in high sec.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0 |
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Denarus Arran
Dark Vanguard Moon Warriors
0
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Posted - 2012.03.27 08:09:00 -
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Darius III wrote:I have to question the sincerity of this apology after reading your earlier posts about the incident. ~100058~. You said on twiter you were resigning, was that a troll? I highly doubt you would care one iota if not for the public outcry. You have brought shame and dishonor to CCP, CSm abd the entire Eve community. Do the right thing and step down from CSM.
Pretty high and mighty coming from someone who scammed themselves into their position. |
JeanMichel Bizarre
Natural Progression
27
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Posted - 2012.03.27 08:09:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:Respect for the apology, you seem sincere there Alex. But I think for the good of the CSM project going forwards and for CCP's reputation in the wider gaming press you should resign as Chair at the minimum and allow another CSM member to take responsibility for leading the player council this year.
The CSM needs a leader with the respect of the player base at this point. You no longer have it.
Eve is coming to a far better state it was in the previous year and the future looks very optimistic. The last thing any of us need is to be reading about cyber-bullying and out of character abuse at fanfest when everyone involved with eve on the player or CCP side just needs to put the bad times behind us and get on with promoting and playing this game.
You worked in the interests of the player base last year Alex alongside the Jita and unsub protests to help CCP turn the ship around and sail out from under the spectre of microtransaction-crazy disaster. Let that be your legacy.
Now its time to resign as chair and let somebody else take a turn.
Couldn't have said it better myself. omniscient omnipotent omnipresent without judgement |
DaiTengu
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
83
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Posted - 2012.03.27 08:09:00 -
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Acwron wrote:
Actually people care but you're blinded by the plex mittani is giving you every month for writing so many posts. I do understand you in a way... BUT IS WRONG !
Get mittens out of here on the back door.
He can't give away free plex, he gave all his isk to The Wis
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HazardsSoul
BSC LEGION Tactical Narcotics Team
4
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Posted - 2012.03.27 08:09:00 -
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Acwron wrote:Andski wrote:Acwron wrote:The Mittani wrote:..................................................
These are words, not facts. FACT is what you did. Apologizes are WORDS. BLA, BLA, BLA....GTFO. neither you nor the raiden/ncdot badposters in this thread care about the dude in question, the incident or anything, it's just a nice opportunity to make veiled complaints about the titan nerf also you should have watched the fanfest presentation he showed everyone your tears shame that he didn't name you Actually people care but you're blinded by the plex mittani is giving you every month for writing so many posts. I do understand you in a way... BUT IS WRONG ! Get mittens out of here on the back door.
Insinuating that he gives every goon that posts a plex.. silly pubbie.... |
Vile rat
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1050
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Posted - 2012.03.27 08:09:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Vile rat wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:10,000 subscriptions* Probably closer to 4,000 or less subscribers. Is there a difference? Well it strikes me that painting his election as 10,000 individual players voting for your beloved leader is a bit off the mark. Having votes tied to individual accounts creates opportunities to game the system. I'm just wondering what the largest power bloc in the game would do if you could buy votes for 450 million ISK...
Well it's not like he got on the CSM by telling people he'd buy them plex or scamming them for votes or anything. That was the other guy :) |
Selene Theron
Hedion University Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2012.03.27 08:10:00 -
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David Cedarbridge wrote:Selene Theron wrote:Zagdul wrote:Spectre80 wrote:actions speak louder than words. anybody can write apology letter. I agree, that's why he gave the dude over 10b isk (all the isk in his - the mittani's wallet). There's not much more he can do to show that he is genuinely apologetic for offending anyone. If he did that thats commendable. Now let him repair the bad press damage. There is only one logical option imo. I don't think you know half as much about PR as you think you do. Please dazzle us with your credentials.
Excuse me? Please point out to me where i said anything about me being an expert on that sort of stuff? I just said, he did the damage, now let him be a man and correct his mistakes. Thats all im saying.
I didnt say there was only one option. I say there is only one in my opinion brainiac. |
David Cedarbridge
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
130
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Posted - 2012.03.27 08:11:00 -
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Amity Lane wrote: But it seems there's no arguing with any of you. I may be many things, but surprised is not one of them.
If you can't even be bothered to read the posts you're replying to it would seem you would qualify as being too disinterested to have a valid opinion on the matters contained in them. Please see your way out and take your content-less opinions with you. |
orphenshadow
Easy Co. Fatal Ascension
16
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Posted - 2012.03.27 08:11:00 -
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I too would vote for him again if there was another election.
Only because he still represents my interests as a player of eve-online.
The fact that he got drunk and made an inappropriate comment does not change this. |
Amity Lane
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
53
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Posted - 2012.03.27 08:11:00 -
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Gossamer DT wrote:Amity Lane wrote:Andski wrote:(snip) just a nice opportunity to make veiled complaints about the titan nerf (snip) Interesting how the only mention of Titan nerfs in any of these MittaniGate threads are in accusations such as this. well it's the only way we can defend such actions. I mean really..or it could be tinfoil hat time, or possible, wait for it, the trurth behind such delayed reactions to the Alliance panel 3 days ago. Occam's Razor would suggest otherwise. Is all this outcry a massive conspiracy of revenge against a game nerf, or is it actually because of the outrageous event they say it is?
The simplest answer tends to be the correct one.
Quote:hey are you a spy? I am just wondering, becase you seem to be hiding your real main and I can't figure out why. This is my main. I keep telling people this, but they refuse to believe that a new player could be this informed about the game...as if reading, listening to some E-UNI lectures, and watching the FanFest stream is hard. I'm done trying to convince people otherwise.
Besides, I lack the lying skill necessary to be a convincing spy and I don't really have the desire to be that kind of a player. I'm more of a "carebear", I think you guys call it. |
Mokanor Lenak
Republic University Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2012.03.27 08:12:00 -
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DaiTengu wrote:Mokanor Lenak wrote:What people say while drunk is what they really are. No holding back, speaking your mind instantly.
Bullshit. I've said some really dumb things while drunk and had to fess up for them. I'd be willing to bet lots of money that you think bad things about people and don't say them out loud for fear of hurting the person's feelings or other repercussions. Drinking removes that filter It doesn't make you a terrible person. Everyone thinks these things, not everyone is in front of a crowd of thousands when they're drunk and they say dumb ****. Mokanor Lenak wrote:Excuses of role-playing and not remembering, only makes it more sad.
Apology does not make it alright. You deserve a few smacks on the head with a crowbar for the way you acted. Most likely the villain in-game overtook the "nice person" in real life. You just contradicted yourself and then suggested basically killing the guy IRL. Bravo! Quote:CCP should have just throw the ban hammer to make an example of what not to do, but most likely they are too scared, and so prefer the "apologize so we can get this over with" routine. I'm going to guess there was very little communication here with CCP during his flight home. Look, I've hung out with the guy in real life, I'm indirectly responsible for HIS PUPPY (I have the same breed of PUPPY!) and I'm 100% certain this apology is real and from the heart. I hate to break down his internet persona but Mittens is a genuinely nice guy and he just let the internet persona go to his head. I've done this, I bet half of you reading this have done it too. I really, REALLY hate to quote any work of fiction here, but ... "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"
Being drunk does not make you a bad person, but how you act does. Being the "villain" in-game is a reflection of your own personality which you hide in real life with friends but in fantasy you wish to be. If you enjoy being the villain in a fantasy game, there is a reason for that in your own true self. Personally I'm playing a decent person in-game, in the same way I'm trying to be out-game.
Also mr. mittens didn't say that in-game, which is why your whole argument falls apart. He said it on stage, in front of people and youtube, clearly stating "go make this guy kill himself". Not in-game, not under "the mittens" persona. Him, himself, in real life.
And also: Deserve something and actually telling people to maker person X to kill himself, are two different things. And its not like he said "kill bad people because they are bad people". He actually said to abuse someone enough to push him over the edge. See the difference? |
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