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de4deye
Mortis Angelus Northern Coalition.
80
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Posted - 2012.03.27 20:40:00 -
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RougeOperator wrote:Doddy wrote:All this has happened before, it will happen again. Unless you make an example. If he doesnt step down CCP needs to take action. He cannot get away with this, and will not for a fact. |

GallowsCalibrator
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
13
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Posted - 2012.03.27 20:40:00 -
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Princess Bride wrote:GallowsCalibrator wrote:People need to CHILL THE **** OUT and let the actual people involved sort out where to go next, without keeping the shitstorm running that is only going to bring more negative press and hurt the game further. Although I do wonder how many of the people trying to keep this inflamed will do that. Yes, I hear that yelling and using profanity effectively silences people who are voicing opinions contrary to your own. Moar plz.
Pretty much just the way I type, welp - shooting the messenger, not the message, etc.
The point, however, does stand; keeping this thing going hurts the game. Things are obviously being done about this. You kind of just proved the point there. |

Andrea Roche
State War Academy Caldari State
64
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Posted - 2012.03.27 20:41:00 -
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wow goon PR machine is in full swing  |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1324
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Posted - 2012.03.27 20:41:00 -
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Maverick Gauss wrote:I am fairly new to Eve, so new that this years fanfest was the first I watched. And the appearance on the Alliance panel was the first I saw of The Mittani. But I take your word that he is a great enrichment to this community.
About his appology for his missdoings I'm sceptic. True he was drunk during the panel. But I don't think he was drunk when his corpmember told him the story about this miner. He probably wasn't drunk when he made the power point presentation and I don't believe he was drunk when he intentionally made the decission to mock this player in front of tousands of people.
I see that some may say that his good deeds outweight this one mistake, but this is the price for his fame. Him stepping down as CSM Chairman would be the absolute least to do. Giving all his ISK to the victim, fair enough. Harassing The Mittani even after he takes this actions, too much and also a bit hippocratic.
Yours sincerly
Mav, I applaud you speaking your mind as a new player, but there is something you need to understand.
Nobody cares about any of the things you mentioned... not the slide, not laughing publicly at the guy, none of that.
The only issue is his drunken joke about paying the guy a visit in game to harass him into committing suicide. It went a step over the line into possibly causing the miner bodily harm in real life if anyone were actually stupid enough to take Mittani's joke seriously.
All the rest is actually business as usual in EVE. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |

Ice Fist
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
59
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Posted - 2012.03.27 20:42:00 -
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Desert Ice78 wrote:Personally I think that what was said at fanfest was somewhat tame by goon standards. However, compared to other years, I thought that the Titani's presentation sucked.
Hopefully he'll kill himself.
HOLD ON I KNOW EVERYONE IS GOING TO BE SHOCKED BY MY REPLY:
Actually, I haven't heard a goon yet defend the presentation as interesting or funny.
In short, basically all goons agree with you. |

Doddy
Excidium. Executive Outcomes
39
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Posted - 2012.03.27 20:42:00 -
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RougeOperator wrote:Doddy wrote:All this has happened before, it will happen again. Unless you make an example. If he doesnt step down CCP needs to take action.
You don't get it. When it happened before it created eves content for the next 5 years.
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RougeOperator
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
293
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Posted - 2012.03.27 20:42:00 -
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Kallynda Nai wrote:RougeOperator wrote:Doddy wrote:All this has happened before, it will happen again. Unless you make an example. If he doesnt step down CCP needs to take action. BoB was the example.
Of cyber bullying and potential death?
How so?
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esc shk
Handelskrieg Industries Goonswarm Federation
140
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Posted - 2012.03.27 20:42:00 -
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Andrea Roche wrote:wow goon PR machine is in full swing 
No this isn't our PR Machine. Just us posting of our free will. You do not want the PR Machine going. |

L00B
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
30
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Posted - 2012.03.27 20:42:00 -
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Kaivar Lancer wrote:Goon tears. Delicious tears.
I think you mistook urine for tears, actually. Not that I mind, you keep drinking that **** and telling us how tasty it is! |

Prince Kobol
411
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Posted - 2012.03.27 20:43:00 -
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Ice Fist wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:Yeep wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:I can see the difference, you can tell x amount of people to go and kill themselves and a lot of other vile crap and its fine. You can joke about peoples personal disabilities, there religion, their race, their person circumstances, you can make racist remarks and that is all fine as well. You can also humiliate people on forum, in public in front of thousand of people and that is okay as well. However once somebody does the same thing to you it suddenly because a serious issue and is no longer funny and those who do it are very bad and evil people. Yep.. gotcha  You don't think political discourse between strangers should be held to different standards than jokes between peers? Because if so boy do I have some dead baby jokes for you. Between peers? hmm.. if they were jokes between just goon members or CFC members then that is fine, however when you randomly attack people on the forums how do you know they do not take it personally? If I make fun of you and you take it personally, Op Success. I just don't care about your internet feelings, just like you don't care about mine, and also like how pretty much nobody has cared from the start about the actual victim's internet feelings in this case. Quit acting like everyone is entitled to feel safe and secure on the forums. Quit acting like CCP should be protecting everyone from insulting posts and negative actions in game.
I'm not, I just pointing out that the goons can't have it both ways.
You can't complain when people use the treat you the same way as you treat them. Bitching about how its all political and about how the verbal abuse is terrible is pretty damn sad and something I would of never though I'd see a goon do.
You have become what you claim to despise... pubbies 
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Bill Banner
State War Academy Caldari State
17
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Posted - 2012.03.27 20:43:00 -
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Ice Fist wrote:Eugene Spencer wrote:I don't really care about in-game politics or bashing someone because they are the leader of a larger alliance.
But I do think he is an utter disgrace and unfit to represent the EVE community. People can use the excuse "he was drunk, people do silly things when they are drunk". Agreed, but you take responsibility when you're sober.
Resign. You know a couple years ago the CSM was a total joke that nobody cared about. But now that Mittens has turned it into something awesome, the whole landscape has changed. Look at all the people who take this so serious, so e-honorish seriously. We have internet legal opinions flying around from people who most likely have no damn clue what they're talking about (Princess Bride ), we have other CSM members JUST ITCHING to take advantage of the downfall of the man who made them powerful (Darius III), and then a brothel runner who thinks that because Goons are defending their leader's position on the CSM that we all must be a religous cult, lacking individual thought processes (Jade Constantine) Now that there is something worth fighting over, everone is here to cash their checks.
Not me - I'm not pushing any personal agenda; I just think he exhibited some poor behavior, and as a result should step down or be removed.
By extension, his actions reflect those of his supporters as well - thus marginalizing the entire organization as a collection of recalcitrant twits. |

Kallynda Nai
Tightpants Inc
21
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Posted - 2012.03.27 20:52:00 -
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RougeOperator wrote:So you got nothing clear cut as the Alex/mittani saying "LYNCH this one guy HURF DERF?"
He just told you.... go look it up. |

esc shk
Handelskrieg Industries Goonswarm Federation
144
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Posted - 2012.03.27 20:52:00 -
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RougeOperator wrote: So you got nothing clear cut as the Alex/mittani saying "LYNCH this one guy HURF DERF?"
BoB killed RoyOfCA. I don't see anyone sperging about that |

Ice Fist
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
60
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Posted - 2012.03.27 20:52:00 -
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Princess Bride wrote:Ice Fist wrote:Eugene Spencer wrote:I don't really care about in-game politics or bashing someone because they are the leader of a larger alliance.
But I do think he is an utter disgrace and unfit to represent the EVE community. People can use the excuse "he was drunk, people do silly things when they are drunk". Agreed, but you take responsibility when you're sober.
Resign. You know a couple years ago the CSM was a total joke that nobody cared about. But now that Mittens has turned it into something awesome, the whole landscape has changed. Look at all the people who take this so serious, so e-honorish seriously. We have internet legal opinions flying around from people who most likely have no damn clue what they're talking about (Princess Bride ), we have other CSM members JUST ITCHING to take advantage of the downfall of the man who made them powerful (Darius III), and then a brothel runner who thinks that because Goons are defending their leader's position on the CSM that we all must be a religous cult, lacking individual thought processes (Jade Constantine) Now that there is something worth fighting over, everone is here to cash their checks. When the hammer falls, and you are pulling your hair and gnashing your teeth and scream WHY??!? you can come back to my posts that you say "likely have no damn clue" and figure out what happened from there. Alex really HAS put CCP in an awkward position legally and they have no choice but to act. You'll know what I'm talking about soon enough. (Okay that may be too much to hope for, but you will at least have an inkling that I was right.) For me the best parts of this thread are the goons burying their beloved leader, one shovelful of hate at a time. By expressing so eloquently that most of the goons really don't "get it", you have helped make action by CCP in order to set an example almost 100% guaranteed. Yeah I know, this is baffling and angers you greatly. That part is fun too, I admit. Also, I find it laughable that this myth that The Mittani made the CSM not a "total joke" anymore hilarious. What I remember is he went to Iceland, full of promises of how his extraordinary real life political know-how (somehow proven in a game setting) was going to ensure full CCP compliance with the goon agenda. His return from Iceland was followed by the WORST Eve expansion ever and massive protests were undertaken. These protests, and much more importantly the massive un-subs, prompted CCP to reverse itself. The Mittani and the rest of the CSM were flown to Iceland again to be coddled by CCP and given a modicum of credit for the changes CCP was forced to make as a purely business decision. He/they returned "victorious" from a battle that was won before they even left the ground in their plane. Did I miss something?
I've already stated multiple times that I'm expecting him to step down. You are really picky about what posts you do and do not read. That's ok, I forgive you. You also are a classic example of "Believeing what you want to believe while ignoreing facts." I forgive you for that too. |

Eugene Spencer
Rodents of Unusual Size
103
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Posted - 2012.03.27 20:53:00 -
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Guys, I have a specific comb for my beard. I have a specific comb for my beard. |

Derrick Munroe
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
13
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Posted - 2012.03.27 20:53:00 -
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Oh no! Not the banner of our publicly available forums! What shall we do?! :psyduck:
Next you'll be telling me that CCP's TOS applies to TEST's private website. |

esc shk
Handelskrieg Industries Goonswarm Federation
144
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Posted - 2012.03.27 20:54:00 -
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Eugene Spencer wrote:Guys, I have a specific comb for my beard.
I like you. Would you like to join my space guild? |

Ice Fist
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
60
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Posted - 2012.03.27 20:54:00 -
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Derrick Munroe wrote:Oh no! Not the banner of our publicly available forums! What shall we do?! :psyduck: Next you'll be telling me that CCP's TOS applies to TEST's private website.
Don't worry, we have Princess bride here to let you know what's what. He/She/It is a really good attorney. |

Eugene Spencer
Rodents of Unusual Size
103
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Posted - 2012.03.27 20:54:00 -
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esc shk wrote:Eugene Spencer wrote:Guys, I have a specific comb for my beard. I like you. Would you like to join my space guild?
No the leader is a dickhead. I have a specific comb for my beard. |

GallowsCalibrator
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
13
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Posted - 2012.03.27 20:55:00 -
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Eugene Spencer wrote:Guys, I have a specific comb for my beard.
I, too, have a beard comb. |

Tamir Lenk
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10
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Posted - 2012.03.27 20:57:00 -
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esc shk wrote:RougeOperator wrote: So you got nothing clear cut as the Alex/mittani saying "LYNCH this one guy HURF DERF?"
BoB killed RoyOfCA. I don't see anyone sperging about that
That is out-of-line, sir!
RoyOfCA stood head-and-shoulders above petty squabbles like this. Your comparison defaces that Goon hero.
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GallowsCalibrator
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
13
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Posted - 2012.03.27 20:57:00 -
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Ssakaa wrote:Yeep wrote:[
You don't think political discourse between strangers should be held to different standards than jokes between peers? Because if so boy do I have some dead baby jokes for you. Just when you think EVE has hit a new low... Let's hope you never have to go through such mental anguish as some here have had to. Despicable and vile.
Sup? |

Bill Banner
State War Academy Caldari State
19
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Posted - 2012.03.27 20:58:00 -
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esc shk wrote:Bill Banner wrote:Ice Fist wrote:
There are exceptions of course. But they are few and far between from the people who actually stand to gain something.
Sticks and stones. I don't really think I, or anybody else in my organization care what you think about us in game. In fact, I find a great deal of comedy in all the hate being generated.
Not hate, indifference. The kid will get what's coming, it's taken on a life of its own now. The kid who's retired and living a happy life having been a DC lawyer for years? HOKAY!
Years you say? I would have thought him older, wiser....
I know a guy, he lives of a trust fund. |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1324
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Posted - 2012.03.27 20:58:00 -
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Quote:So you got nothing clear cut as the Alex/mittani saying "LYNCH this one guy HURF DERF?"
I dunno Rouge, someone actually dying seems a bit more clear cut to me. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |

Hexus Draidin
Intersteller Masons Wonder Kids
50
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Posted - 2012.03.27 20:59:00 -
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This whole going overboard to appease the public is a bit silly. The formal apology should have been enough. Resigning ignores the votes of 10,000+. Donating all teh iskies to the miner is also a bit silly when isk is probably not an issue for the leader of Teh Goonies or somebody that PLEXes or pays for 23 accounts. I'm So Meta, Even This Acronym-á |

Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
251
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Posted - 2012.03.27 21:00:00 -
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Retar Aveymone wrote:even in a badposting thread i don't get why people would respond to princess bride
Because they're mad, brosef.
They not only respond to my posts, they respond to other people's posts, and drag me into the reply because their butthurt cannot be contained in their sub-par replies to me. *shrug* They're goons, I mean is there really anything else to say here? http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |

Valkyria Caeli
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
18
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Posted - 2012.03.27 21:00:00 -
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I feel really bad for Mittens. With this band of socially ******** misfits such as these following him about, as desperate for guidance as the boys in Lord of the Flies, who really needs any in game enemies. These boorish hangers-on are punishment enough for any soul. I have a feeling that he will be spending the next several evenings in their teamspeak or what ever they use, explaining to his Lost Boys what the apology means in smaller worlds and what the difference is between in game asshattery and out of game asshattery. He has a lot of work ahead of him. |

esc shk
Handelskrieg Industries Goonswarm Federation
146
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Posted - 2012.03.27 21:01:00 -
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Princess Bride wrote:Retar Aveymone wrote:even in a badposting thread i don't get why people would respond to princess bride Because they're mad, brosef. They not only respond to my posts, they respond to other people's posts, and drag me into the reply because their butthurt cannot be contained in their sub-par replies to me.
You're never going to be admitted to Law School yknow. |

RougeOperator
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
300
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Posted - 2012.03.27 21:01:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Quote:So you got nothing clear cut as the Alex/mittani saying "LYNCH this one guy HURF DERF?" I dunno Rouge, someone actually dying seems a bit more clear cut to me.
So you support people screaming at a guy on a ledge to jump? As long as he doesnt actually jump? But what if he does?
You need your compass adjusted. |

Yeep
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
95
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Posted - 2012.03.27 21:01:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote: No you are not defending the Mittani's actions, however you trying to claim that its fine to post personal attack using any and all subject matter as we are "Your Peers" all of a sudden and not those "death to all pubbies" but when it comes back at you its no longer cool.
As I said it your fellow goon friend, how you can be surprised when people treat you the same as you treat them?
As for the The Mittani apologising, do you seriously think that most people were going to believe him?
Here is a guy who has made a name for himself as a lying, cheating, pubbie hating bastard and all of a sudden people should believe him, let alone the fact that we have had goons actually come on the forums and post how in a couple of days they are all going to be laughing at everybody on your forums about how we all got trolled.
Theres no answer I can give to this that will satisfy you but I'll say that once someone has brought up something like a disability in an attempt to justify a moronic opinion that has nothing to do with their disability then yes I think thats fair game. You don't get to use something like that as a trump card then go crying to mom when someone calls you on it. |
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