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Grimpak
Gallente Trinity Nova Trinity Nova Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.22 13:22:00 -
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Originally by: Redback911 Honour your corpmates
Honour your Blues
Honour your ransoms
Kill and rip off everything else.
truth of EVE right here.
the concept of "honor" in EVE is as utopic as the concept of fair fight.
if it happens, it must be for a reason and not because people are such a nice bunch of people. ---
Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.
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Grimpak
Gallente Trinity Nova Trinity Nova Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.22 22:09:00 -
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*cough*shameless plug*cough*
and this thread was so interesting, that I made an article about it ---
Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.
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Brother Welcome
Amarr Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2008.09.24 08:56:00 -
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Interesting thread.
My view is that Eve cuts through the honour myth that our cultures use to... well, I guess to make killing other people seem okay.
Because Eve PvP is lossy, people don't want to lose. So they get to the truth of real warfare fast, and that is it's all about advantages. Two simple truths that many will repudiate:
No one in Eve seeks to fight 1:1. Everyone in Eve likes to pretend they do.
-vk
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H Lecter
Gallente The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2008.09.24 09:20:00 -
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Originally by: Brother Welcome No one in Eve seeks to fight 1:1. Everyone in Eve likes to pretend they do.
1:1 is great - as long as I have the better chances or so much ISK that I don't need to worry about losing the ship I fly
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Vrabac
Zawa's Fan Club
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Posted - 2008.09.24 11:16:00 -
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Honor is such a big word, just be nice. But always smack back.
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LOLOLOLOL XDDD
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Posted - 2008.09.24 11:19:00 -
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1:1, you vs me and my falcon alt.
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KeLLaX
HUNLAR the Almighty Scalar Federation
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Posted - 2008.09.24 15:08:00 -
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I don't think it's honour that you seek but rather matureness, which technically, age-wise, exists in the game but a mature person doesn't have to be mature in character :) This is just one server and you get to see a more diverse crowd. Some people may treat you bad because they like it that way, some people are stressed IRL and just wanna relieve stress that way. In the end of the day, this is just a game and I don't think it's right to bring the issues of honour and maturity here, where they tend to fly away when "having fun" punches in :)
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Nightsail
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Posted - 2008.09.24 19:20:00 -
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Actually, there are a few PvPers in EVE who fight with honor. Check out the roleplay alliances and corps, e.g. Electus Matari. They only fight and kill the opposing faction for a reason, to free their people from slavery under the Amarr. In addition, they patrol their space for pirates. They do not, however, randomly kill without reason.
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Ka Jolo
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2008.10.14 13:41:00 -
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I've now published my take on honor in EVE.
Your Money or Your Life: the journal of a space pirate
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Dickens Cider
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Posted - 2009.01.09 20:23:00 -
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Since there is nothing better in C&P today, I bring you this.... |
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Chomin H'ak
Integrated Takeovers
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Posted - 2009.01.09 20:33:00 -
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imo, EvE isn't about honor.
It's about being the guy who walks away from a dogfight, the hauler who narrowly misses the cloaked camp, the trader who just owned yourmomma, the rats who popped several hundred mil in implants SB'ing a gate.
EvE is about the game. All of our trials and tribulations combined make it what it is. From the guy who won to the guy who didn't to the guy who had nothing to do with it but making the mods/ships.
Go look for 'honor' somewhere else.
Honor is for those who cry, "it's not fair".
Oh yeah, and:
MY PHALLUS-SHAPED WEAPON IS LONGER THAN YOURS, LULZ
Originally by: Frenden Dax My heart hopes that people aren't that stupid, but my experiences thus far suggest otherwise.
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jimmyjam
Gallente Sinner Among Saints Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2009.01.09 21:31:00 -
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Most of eve,s honor left with castor.Allthough someone haveing personal honor with there own pvp is up to the person themself.
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Sol'Kanar
Minmatar SRIUS BISNIS
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Posted - 2009.01.09 21:47:00 -
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Originally by: Demitria Fernir Honor in PVP is just like a mix of salt and sugar.
It sucks.
You have no idea what you're talking about. Salt and sugar are, in fact, very complimentary flavors. But you're right about honor and PvP. Fight to win. |
Myxx Deux
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2009.01.10 01:02:00 -
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Hacked Of Newbs Orating Rapaciously? Theres PLENTY of that in Eve, I dont see the OP's point?
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Karrade Krise
Galatic P0RN Starz
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Posted - 2009.01.10 01:08:00 -
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Necro-Philliac-Adop-Ili-Cous-Poli-Many-Goobly-Gobbly-Windu-Grepp-Winny-Bong!!
Voluntold, New Webcomic
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Viqer Fell
Minmatar When Hippo Attacks Go Wrong
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Posted - 2009.01.10 02:07:00 -
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Edited by: Viqer Fell on 10/01/2009 02:12:50 Eve has morphed over the years and mostly the change has picked up momentum as the player base grows.
There is still honour in combat and fun fights to be had. But now these instances and occasions are small islands on a sea of ****e.
The majority of EvE players involved in pvp are all about the e-peen and the win at all costs mentality. Why bring 1 ship to engage 3 and win but risk losing when you can bring 50 and win with no risk and also call the victims idiots in local for dying?
I have played solidly since release. I have run 2 very well established and long term pvp corps both from scratch. TPFM and TNT. Most people in the game now wouldn't even know TPFM but for 2 years it kicked ass all over empire terrorizing amarrians and TNT was a 3 year Merc corp and lately Alliance. I have never once dishonoured a fight, and I have never once walked away thinking that I did something underhand.
I have no problem taking on larger groups of pilots fielding bigger ships against me as long as I know that I have a vague chance of living whilst I enjoy the glory of the fight.
In response to the OP, there is honour in PVP but it's the honour you carry within yourself. Occasionally you will meet a like minded pilot and win or lose you will enjoy the fight and usually the chat afterwards. You just have to trawl through the morass of god awful meta gaming pillocks to glimpse those occasional moments of fun. Reputation is important and people who act like ****s get known for it. Personally if someone feels they can get their jollies by being lame then thats their issue and I'll just pity them that. Worst that can happen is I lose some pretty internet spaceship and go jump in my next one
It's difficult in EvE to learn pvp from the perspective of a PVE corp. Mostly because you'll struggle to form even rudimentary small gangs to any effect and the guys dec'cing you will likely kick your ass so hard you'll be wiping your ass via your mouth.
If you are interested in PVP join a pvp corp. At two months old stick wioth small ships even if thats just T1 frigs. Don't waste your time flying big ships as at that point you simply dont have the support skills to be effective. Become a scout / tackler and learn the ropes. PvP in eve is a mix of boredom and heart racing adrenaline. It's kept me playing now for over 5 years and will do so for many to come.
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Karrade Krise
Galatic P0RN Starz
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Posted - 2009.01.10 02:22:00 -
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Did someone call for a Troll? I'm here to do some "Raiding."
Bow chicka bow wow.
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Dickens Cider
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Posted - 2009.01.10 04:38:00 -
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Originally by: Karrade Krise Necro-Philliac-Adop-Ili-Cous-Poli-Many-Goobly-Gobbly-Windu-Grepp-Winny-Bong!!
You sir, are a king among men!
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K1RTH G3RS3N
Haunted House BROTHERS GRIM.
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Posted - 2009.01.10 05:01:00 -
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Originally by: Gwendalyne First off, I would like to make it clear that this thread is being made in earnest -- if it trolls, it certainly wasn't the intent.
I am a devout carebear
wrong section... you need to go here IIRC
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Jack Light
Umbrella Biohazard Counter-Measure Squad
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Posted - 2009.01.10 05:02:00 -
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Originally by: K1RTH G3RS3N
Originally by: Gwendalyne First off, I would like to make it clear that this thread is being made in earnest -- if it trolls, it certainly wasn't the intent.
I am a devout carebear
wrong section... you need to go here
FFS Damnit not again
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Dickens Cider
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Posted - 2009.01.10 05:02:00 -
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Originally by: K1RTH G3RS3N
Originally by: Gwendalyne First off, I would like to make it clear that this thread is being made in earnest -- if it trolls, it certainly wasn't the intent.
I am a devout carebear
wrong section... you need to go here
Dont think he'll see it - check date of OP
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Jack Light
Umbrella Biohazard Counter-Measure Squad
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Posted - 2009.01.10 05:05:00 -
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Edited by: Jack Light on 10/01/2009 05:05:31
Originally by: ****ens Cider
Originally by: K1RTH G3RS3N
Originally by: Gwendalyne First off, I would like to make it clear that this thread is being made in earnest -- if it trolls, it certainly wasn't the intent.
I am a devout carebear
wrong section... you need to go here
Dont think he'll see it - check date of OP
wtf if the Author doesnt see this work of art, it is wasting my time.
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Dickens Cider
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Posted - 2009.01.10 05:07:00 -
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Is time all that is being wasted here?
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Jack Light
Umbrella Biohazard Counter-Measure Squad
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Posted - 2009.01.10 05:08:00 -
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Originally by: ****ens Cider Is time all that is being wasted here?
I'm wasting my money as this thread is clearly wasting my electricity.
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Dickens Cider
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Posted - 2009.01.10 05:09:00 -
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Originally by: Jack Light
Originally by: ****ens Cider Is time all that is being wasted here?
I'm wasting my money as this thread is clearly wasting my electricity.
Don't forget bandwidth and storage |
Jack Light
Umbrella Biohazard Counter-Measure Squad
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Posted - 2009.01.10 05:13:00 -
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Originally by: ****ens Cider
Originally by: Jack Light
Originally by: ****ens Cider Is time all that is being wasted here?
I'm wasting my money as this thread is clearly wasting my electricity.
Don't forget bandwidth and storage
yeah. i live to waste ccp's money. |
Alowishus
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2009.01.11 11:27:00 -
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In the context of Eve, honor is a stupid thing to discuss. If you want to talk about honor go to CHOAD, I hear it comes up a lot over there. |
Lechert
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.11 11:40:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis Honour exists in EvE just as it does in real life: as a personal choice, not an enforced one.
Insofar as you have a problem it is with the players, not the game.
THIS
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Raul Watanabe
Gallente NQX Innovations
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Posted - 2009.01.11 11:40:00 -
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sometimes yes, mostly no.
Depends who you get, spend some time out in low sec and you will see that there is plenty of both
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Bob Clive
Union Jack Purists Cult
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Posted - 2009.01.11 11:47:00 -
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Since were wasting time in a necro thread.
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