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Ka Jolo
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2008.09.21 06:49:00 -
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This is a report of a one-vs.-one that was not honored. This post is intended as a service for those pilots and corporations that keep track of such things. Others will find it of no interest. I am happy to report that I could afford to lose my ship and that, while surprised at the outcome, I considered its possibility before accepting the challenge.
Fural of THC LTD offered single combat, he in his Ishkur and I in my Thorax, and upon consideration I accepted his offer. I lost to a gang of six pilots, including three from THC LTD, two from Beyond Evil and Good, and one from the Atlantis Empire Corporation.
Killmail
Your Money or Your Life: the journal of a space pirate
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Arvald
Caldari Ninjas N Pirates
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Posted - 2008.09.21 06:54:00 -
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lolerskates
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Lars Lodar
Suicidal Tendencies Ltd
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Posted - 2008.09.21 08:26:00 -
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Corelous you bad man.
Now if both parties agree to a 1v1, its rather pathetic to dishonor it. Now I'm not sure if you are the corp these guys are currently engaged in a war dec with. If so, honor in war will be a rare commodity.
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V1123
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Posted - 2008.09.21 08:59:00 -
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Edited by: V1123 on 21/09/2008 09:02:32
boo!
I never accept 1vs1's against people I do not know. I have nothing to prove. They have nothing that they can prove to me in this manner. And there is a possibility of losing your ship to a gang of 6 like this. So why do it?
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ViRUS Pottage
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.09.21 09:39:00 -
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Lol at that curse on the bottom with a t1 standard damp.. Thats epic failure. _________ Please resize your image to a maximum filesize of 400 x 120 pixels and 24000 bytes. Navigator
Originally by: CCP Taera
May I have your stuff?
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Xailz
Amarr Ministry of War
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Posted - 2008.09.21 11:19:00 -
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Originally by: ViRUS Pottage Lol at that curse on the bottom with a t1 standard damp.. Thats epic failure.
Exactly what i was thinking
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Moric Longshanks
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Posted - 2008.09.21 13:13:00 -
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Not honoring a 1v1 is super lame. I guess that's the only way some people can get kills against T1 cruisers with their fleet of 6. The dishonored pilot shamed himself to kill a thorax in what would have otherwise probably been a really fun fight. Fail.
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Golden Helmet
Caldari The Python Cartel
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Posted - 2008.09.21 15:13:00 -
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Thats why I don't accept 1 v 1's unless I've got backup waiting next door. If you keep your word I'll keep mine, if you bring your friends I'll bring mine.
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Leviathan9
Gallente Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.09.21 15:48:00 -
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I killed a rokh from Beyond Good and Evil last night, he had nothing fitted and he still took my can. lol. ----------------------------
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z0de
Gallente The Bastards
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Posted - 2008.09.21 16:27:00 -
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Edited by: z0de on 21/09/2008 16:30:08
Originally by: Moric Longshanks Not honoring a 1v1 is super lame. I guess that's the only way some people can get kills against T1 cruisers with their fleet of 6. The dishonored pilot shamed himself to kill a thorax in what would have otherwise probably been a really fun fight. Fail.
Any half decent thorax will rip through an ishkur or any other af fitted to solo, jolo accepted what he thought would be easy kill but obvious trap. jolo got t****d and was surprised.
Although a cheap move and something I wouldn't do and would rather people didn't this is no different than any other scam.
.:edit:. lol at t r a p e d being filtered.
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Vikarion
Caldari BLACK 0RIGIN Red Dawn Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.21 17:02:00 -
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Originally by: z0de Any half decent thorax will rip through an ishkur or any other af fitted to solo, jolo accepted what he thought would be easy kill but obvious trap. jolo got t****d and was surprised.
Although a cheap move and something I wouldn't do and would rather people didn't this is no different than any other scam.
.:edit:. lol at t r a p e d being filtered.
To which he maturely and calmly noted their actions on the appropriate forum. Your point?
Anyway, thanks KJ. I'll make sure to kill these guys without asking questions or making deals. --------
EVE - The only non-consensual PvP MMORPG*
*Note: does not contain non-consensual PvP as of 9/3/2008
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Boomershoot
Caldari Insurgent New Eden Tribe Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2008.09.21 17:45:00 -
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Keep Honor out of the game, locked in your mind.
And post it on the forum, too. ______________________________________________
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Liang Nuren
No Salvation
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Posted - 2008.09.21 18:06:00 -
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Originally by: Boomershoot Keep Honor out of the game, locked in your mind.
And post it on the forum, too.
So, yeah, C&P has always been a caustic cesspool, but I remember many threads of the past where all the regulars of C&P condemned someone for breaking agreed upon 1v1s and dishonoring ransoms. Hell, it wasn't really infrequent that the larger pirate corps would declare an all out "war" on some dishonorable pirate corps. Kept the business clean, you know?
So, what's up with the "there is no honor in PVP" bullshit which I'm seeing here now? Of course there is honor. IIRC, the unwritten pirate ROE was: - Honor gentleman's agreements (such as 1v1s and cruiser duels) - Honor ransoms (and kill drive those who don't out of the business) - Honor your blues - Kill everyone else
Of course, it's foolish to count on someone else's honor, but it was encouraged to "name and shame" anyone who broke the rules (quite possibly excepting backstabbing 0.0 alliances).
-Liang --
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Suitonia
Gallente interimo
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Posted - 2008.09.21 18:43:00 -
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I wish more people would have the balls to commit to 1 vs 1's tbh, Good luck KJ.
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Orar Ironfist
Digital assassins
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Posted - 2008.09.21 19:03:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: Boomershoot Keep Honor out of the game, locked in your mind.
And post it on the forum, too.
So, yeah, C&P has always been a caustic cesspool, but I remember many threads of the past where all the regulars of C&P condemned someone for breaking agreed upon 1v1s and dishonoring ransoms. Hell, it wasn't really infrequent that the larger pirate corps would declare an all out "war" on some dishonorable pirate corps. Kept the business clean, you know?
So, what's up with the "there is no honor in PVP" bullshit which I'm seeing here now? Of course there is honor. IIRC, the unwritten pirate ROE was: - Honor gentleman's agreements (such as 1v1s and cruiser duels) - Honor ransoms (and kill drive those who don't out of the business) - Honor your blues - Kill everyone else
Of course, it's foolish to count on someone else's honor, but it was encouraged to "name and shame" anyone who broke the rules (quite possibly excepting backstabbing 0.0 alliances).
-Liang
welcome to the wave of wannabes and wow players....hopefully theyll leave eventually :O
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Solomon XI
Hoist The Colors.
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Posted - 2008.09.21 19:21:00 -
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@ Ka Jolo:
It's a sad thing but the fact is ... it's difficult to find an honor 1-vs-1 these days. That being said, you can rest assured that if you ever 1-vs-1 against a member of HTC-, the 1v1 will be honored (unless broken by the other side). ~Solo Hoist The Colors. (CEO) |
z0de
Gallente The Bastards
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Posted - 2008.09.21 19:35:00 -
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Edited by: z0de on 21/09/2008 19:35:08
Originally by: Vikarion Your point?
That he should have seen it coming and not agreeded to the '1v1'.
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Einar Lightfingers
Army 0f Two
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Posted - 2008.09.21 20:49:00 -
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That's just making excuses and arguing semantics. If a guy offers a 1v1, then it should be honored. Saying that the OP should have seen it coming is completely beside the point.
Also, yeah... that curse pilot has forfeited any rights to that ship and should therefore give it to someone who actually knows how to fly it. Damps on a curse? Out-dated. T1 damps no less? He deserves to be shot.
All these guys claiming to be pirates etc. are giving the rest of us a bad rep. Stop calling yourselves pirates... you are griefers. Pirates honor the code. Griefers will do and say whatever they can to get the kill, regardless of honor or e-honor. _______________________ Once a BEE, always a BEE!
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Mynxee
Hellcats Doom Armada
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Posted - 2008.09.22 02:32:00 -
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KJ, the intel is much appreciated. Sorry you got ganked. My shit list grows longer by the day.
Life in Low Sec | Hellcats
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Lord Vyper
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Posted - 2008.09.22 03:25:00 -
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LOL. Ka Jolo had this coming. TBH the 1 v 1 was at a stalemate. He couldn't catch the Curse and both were fighting to stay out of the others optimal. Those who have honor get honor in return. I did not show Ka Jolo any quarter since he's never shown me any. Any smart person would have made the other drop fleet so that they were the only 2 in the fleet and warped to a safe spot.
Ka Jolo knew this was coming, When he joined a fleet of 8 ppl already in system. As -10 pirate you can't be stupid and live forever. Was it a trap no but a call for help was asked and I provided. Do I feel bad for jumping him? yeah a little. But he was already being camped at the station so it was more of a manner of how he was gonna die. Were not pirates nor claim to be so leave ur premisconceptions at the door to your pod.
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Sin Fae
Income Redistribution Service
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Posted - 2008.09.22 05:13:00 -
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Not that I would ever sanction a 1v1, but if you do Id recommend:
Going to a system with no one in it, and gang with your opponent.
Quote: "Justice..is in the hands of those who wish to take it"
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Hellrazer
Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2008.10.07 13:34:00 -
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Edited by: Hellrazer on 07/10/2008 13:35:09 Fural, Paul Maximus, Lord Vyper, Corelous Alterrian, Creator232, and River Dragon
lol
THC LTD
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Maximillian Bayonette
White Lion Manufacture and Salvage
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Posted - 2008.10.07 13:54:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Vyper Were not pirates nor claim to be
Doubt anyone called you pirates with any sincerity. After all, lame things like this isn't normally what you would expect from pirates. This is more an anti-pirate MO.
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kor anon
Amarr Sons Of The Fallen BROTHERS GRIM.
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Posted - 2008.10.07 15:08:00 -
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Unfortunate that this happens, dont worry jolo i give go 1vs1 anytime you want
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Take Enemy
Amarr BAD WOLF INC.
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Posted - 2008.10.07 15:22:00 -
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Originally by: Hellrazer Edited by: Hellrazer on 07/10/2008 13:35:09 Fural, Paul Maximus, Lord Vyper, Corelous Alterrian, Creator232, and River Dragon
lol
THC LTD
Is THC LTD still in Placid?
Yes.
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Tal Nok
Amarr Digital assassins G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2008.10.07 16:45:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Vyper somthing about being butt hurt if they had a loss on their kb
you still fail tbfh
Shoulda just baited him instead of agreeing to a 1v1.
Originally by: CCP Mitnal Forum gods ANGRY.
Need sacrifice.
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Rudy Metallo
The Bastards
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Posted - 2008.10.07 17:27:00 -
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Edited by: Rudy Metallo on 07/10/2008 17:27:59
Originally by: Lord Vyper LOL. Ka Jolo had this coming. TBH the 1 v 1 was at a stalemate. He couldn't catch the Curse and both were fighting to stay out of the others optimal. Those who have honor get honor in return. I did not show Ka Jolo any quarter since he's never shown me any. Any smart person would have made the other drop fleet so that they were the only 2 in the fleet and warped to a safe spot.
Ka Jolo knew this was coming, When he joined a fleet of 8 ppl already in system. As -10 pirate you can't be stupid and live forever. Was it a trap no but a call for help was asked and I provided. Do I feel bad for jumping him? yeah a little. But he was already being camped at the station so it was more of a manner of how he was gonna die. Were not pirates nor claim to be so leave ur premisconceptions at the door to your pod.
If a 1v1 comes to a stalemate then the two parties agree its a stalemate and leave. It doesnt mean you call in your buddies and dishonor the terms of the agreement YOU proposed.
Yes, maybe it was stupid of him. But you gave him the promise of a 1v1, and turned it into 1v6. Thats still a fault on YOUR part. You took advantage of him, therefore you're in the wrong, not him.
Don';t try and dig yourself out of the shithole you made.
Btw nice Bush-ism there. "Premisconceptions". --
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Aesheera
Amarr Malum Crusis IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.10.07 18:00:00 -
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Edited by: Aesheera on 07/10/2008 18:04:57
Originally by: Lord Vyper LOL. Ka Jolo had this coming. TBH the 1 v 1 was at a stalemate. He couldn't catch the Curse and both were fighting to stay out of the others optimal. Those who have honor get honor in return. I did not show Ka Jolo any quarter since he's never shown me any. ANY SMART PERSON WOULD HAVE MADE THE DROP FLEET so that they were the only 2 in the fleet and warped to a safe spot.
Ka Jolo knew this was coming, When he joined a fleet of 8 ppl already in system. As -10 pirate you can't be stupid and live forever. Was it a trap no but a call for help was asked and I provided. DO I FEEL BAD FOR JUMPING HIM? YEAH A LITTLE But he was already being camped at the station so it was more of a manner of how he was gonna die. Were not pirates nor claim to be so leave ur premisconceptions at the door to your pod.
Failing to honor a 1v1 is disgusting. There is no excuse to fleet gank a participant of one such engagement after a CLEAR AGREEMENT has been made .
Just because he showed no quarter OUTSIDE of an agreement means he does his job well finding the person in question and killing him, I assume repeatedly. Extracting vengeance like this merely shows somebody lacks the ability and the means to properly catch and kill the OP without resorting to treachery and trickery like that.
If you want to kill a pirate so badly, hunt him, probe him, camp him - whatever. But be a man and have some frackin dignity and temper yourself.
Dishonorable ganks are the epitome of fail.
Thanks for the heads up, corps blacklisted in our book.
EDIT: Bolded and highlighted the most dispicable lines in that post. Your attemps at justification are so wrong Im surprised you dont even see it yourself.
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Juzo
Caldari Retribution Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.10.07 18:02:00 -
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Hey Ka Jolo you should enjoy the compliment they fear you so much they had to warp in 6 other ships to kill you
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FoulBeast
Gallente Malum Crusis IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.10.07 18:27:00 -
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I agree with this thread
But yeah, seriously dissing 1 v 1's isn't cool
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