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Lt Pizi
Dark-Rising
48
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Posted - 2012.03.29 12:47:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:I love watching Goons complaining that this is all political What a lot of goon need to realise is that its not because we hate you that we do these things Its because WE LOVE YOU
BEST POST EVER CSM are expected to adhere to the EULA/TOS and carry themselves in a manner that sets an example for other players to follow. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/What_is_the_CSM |
Highauger's animated corpse
Stargate SG-1 Fatal Ascension
21
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Posted - 2012.03.29 12:56:00 -
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Jin MeiHu wrote:Seems like hes just feeling sorry for himself. What a loser and despicable human being.
But not an alt coward f**k |
SojournerRover
Insidious Design
7
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Posted - 2012.03.29 13:01:00 -
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Delegado Cero wrote:Darius III wrote: This is a cynical half hearted gesture that rings very hollow. You have brought disgrace on the CSM, CCP and the Eve community in general. While I suppose it is "better than nothing" it does not undo the damage you have caused us all. Stepping down entirely is the only way to remove the stain of your poor judgement.
I ask you to look beyond your power mad aspirations and do the right thing for us all: Step down from the CSM so that we can begin the healing process and get some closure. Mainstream gaming media will adore you for it and the players will rejoice. Merely abdicating the Chair is a token gesture that will be viewed with cynicism not from just your detractors, but by everyone who is familiar with who your really are. I am outraged that you think this does anything to address the severity of what you have done to us all.
Instead of this token gesture, if in fact this what you think will atone for what you have done-do something meaningful and quit the the Council completely so that the CSM may once again enjoy the respect of the player base. I urge you to take into account the bigger picture and for once-do the right thing. Your full resignation is the one and only this that will set this right. It would be unfair to 10,058 voters if he didn't represent them.
This is what happens when alcohol is involved and you are so loaded you pick up the asshat by mistake.
I vote for two step to be put on the chair.
ROVER (REDRUM)
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Darius Shakor
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
27
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Posted - 2012.03.29 13:05:00 -
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Well all I can say to this now is thank you for doing the right thing.
I will confess I did doubt that you would go no further than an apology, which I have said was not enough to satisfy my own concerns. I only see you as Mittani in game where you are a self confessed troll who I do not trust one bit. And then on the Alliance panel where I saw someone I do not respect one bit, either.
So maybe you can see why people do not trust what you say because online you are like the boy who cried wolf too many times. And when that is the only face you show most people then I have no way of trusting you when you say you are not like this in real life, which I know I am sure most people are not anyway. I am hardly a cynic about human nature in general, just individual cases. But 'sure' is not enough when something like this happens and even if I were completely aware of your real character I think the situation itself called for actual consequences. And I do not agree that those should include a life time ban or other extremes called for by the excitable mob.
So, again, thank you for showing me another side of yourself, and for doing the right thing here. |
Highauger's animated corpse
Stargate SG-1 Fatal Ascension
21
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Posted - 2012.03.29 13:05:00 -
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Darius III wrote:This is a cynical half hearted gesture that rings very hollow. You have brought disgrace on the CSM, CCP and the Eve community in general. While I suppose it is "better than nothing" it does not undo the damage you have caused us all. Stepping down entirely is the only way to remove the stain of your poor judgement.
-lalala stuff -
PS This is but a minor defeat for Mittani, but the goonies are going to howl all night. Like music to my ears.
Doesn't your obsession with themittani bother you? It bothers me, it's kinda romantic, I trust your missus doesn't mind.
And what does your shrink say about the state of your mental impoverishment that leads to your thinking that your only advancement comes through such transparently cheap shots.
Nobody voted for you bro. Now just nip off, pick up some viagra and it will work just like it used to work without needing reference to better ...men?
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Pertuabo Enkidgan
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.03.29 13:24:00 -
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Politics.....:(
Jita should be.....interesting in a month. |
Ni'ark
Parnassius Corporation Inception Alliance
13
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Posted - 2012.03.29 13:32:00 -
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I am not a member of GS, nor I think I ever be, but Mittens(thou I didn't even vote for you), **** all those who keep throwing **** at you. You did awesome job as chairman and as most know alliance leader.
Everyone have **** ups from time to time, and you just have to "deal with it".
My big pros to you as a man, who could understand what is better for "serious spaceship business" and stepping over your pride.
You prolly wont even find this post but - grief, scam, spy, gank, metagame - keep doing all of the things, because whatever pubbies will say, EVE wont be that sandbox we love it for without Goonswarm.
P.S: I know i'm terribad forum poster. -First thread in ship and modules-First whine thread in ship and modules-First locked thread in ship and modules and new eve-o forums. |
SojournerRover
Insidious Design
7
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Posted - 2012.03.29 13:37:00 -
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he said, she said It's not that big a deal, He's just throwing fire on the situation, CCP should of monitored the event better. He's not to blame. It's just tradition He apologized. I'm going to tell my mom. My dad can beat your dad up. Boys will be boys. Blah, Blah, Blah
But no one has mentioned what really happened.
AA Alcohol and Arrogance I submit the person to blame is the person that was unable to control these at a public event. ROVER (REDRUM)
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Naj Panora
Azerick Holdings The Paganism Alliance
7
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Posted - 2012.03.29 13:38:00 -
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The Mittani wrote:Though I have received many letters of support (my inbox is full of these, and for them I thank you) and the major bloggers have called for me to remain on as Chair, there are still some who doubt the sincerity of my apology to the player concerned, who - unlike those attempting to make hay from my mistake - is the person that matters here. I said that I would resign; to demonstrate the sincerity of my words and my apology, I will do just that. With the increasingly high profile of the CSM in the wake of the Incarna Emergency Summit and the amazing turnout we had for the CSM7 elections, I have come to the conclusion that my two roles in EVE - that of the Chairman of the CSM as Alexander Gianturco, and the leader of Goonswarm as "The Mittani" are increasingly incompatible. It is, fundamentally, a problem of hats. As the leader of Goonswarm I must be willing to make ruthless decisions and take actions that many players find objectionable - griefing, ganking, scamming, 'dishonorable' fleet tactics, espionage, metagaming, blowing up everyone who tries to mine Gallente Ice, sponsoring Hulkageddon, et cetera - whatever it takes to defend my people in this, the most exceedingly hostile galaxy to grace the internet. As Darius JOHNSON, the previous Goonswarm leader once said, "[Goonswarm] is not here to destroy /the/ game, but /your/ game. Yet as Chairman of the CSM and Alexander Gianturco, I need to put a good face on CCP's experimental player democracy and keep my nose clean. Inevitably, these two roles conflict with one another; when Goonswarm does what it does in EVE, this reflects on the CSM as a whole, purely due to my position as both Chairman and alliance leader. If I abandon the brutalist tactics of an alliance leader in hopes of keeping the CSM's image pristine, I hamstring my people ingame and do a disservice to the line members who rely on me. In addition, the enemies of Goonswarm assault the CSM and CCP itself unfairly due to the in-game actions of our alliance. After the successful restructuring of CCP, I am convinced that most of the hard work of the CSM is already done - CCP is now focusing on spaceships instead of avatars, and the success of CSM6 has led to a solid and competent crop of player representatives in CSM7 with a much greater turnout, demonstrating ever-more faith and trust from the playerbase in the concept of the CSM. This changes things for the CSM, as well as the Chairman title During Goonswarm's highly successful Gallente Ice Interdiction there were calls for my resignation as Chairman; those calls increased when Goonswarm began to use false supercap sales as a method of closing the gap between us and our in-game enemies' supercap fleets. We are now planning an attempt to destroy Jita itself. All of these actions are entirely legitimate within the brutal world of EVE, yet, in the coming months, if I continue to hold the title of Chairman, CCP will be enduring one PR nightmare after another as Goonswarm's in-game actions unfairly reflect back upon the CSM as a whole through the Chairman title. It is increasingly important that the Chair be a GÇÿgood citizenGÇÖ in the game itself - and I cannot be a good citizen and simultaneously lead my alliance of magnificent bastards. With CSM7's term beginning on April 4th, I now exercise my right as the winner of the election with 10,058 votes to decline the office of Chairman. It will then be up to CSM7 as a group to decide how to proceed regarding the Chair. As a member of the CSM without a title, what I do as the leader of Goonswarm will no longer unfairly reflect on the CSM as a whole - leaving me and my people free to do as we please without needing to consider corporate, political, or media ramifications every time we make a **** joke, offend someone, or sell a supercap made of vapor. So basically you got the boot. Also a joke is one thing but what I seen on the webcast was way over the line. Personally I would love to see you charged with harassment and something else if anything happens to that guy. |
jiantsquidz
Free Masons United Inc. Fidelas Constans
1
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Posted - 2012.03.29 14:03:00 -
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I usualy dont post my opinion, but i think mittani did earn my respect for how he is handling his mistake. Everyone makes mistakes and shouldnt get burned down for it like DariusIII seems to want.
Anyways im not suprised that Darius had the least votes and by his posts he wont get much at all next election.
I wish Mitti gets re-elected for CSM8 wich i wouldnt be suprised at since he done shitloads for the eve community.
cut him some slack. |
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Lt Pizi
Dark-Rising
51
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Posted - 2012.03.29 14:11:00 -
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jiantsquidz wrote:I usualy dont post my opinion, but i think mittani did earn my respect for how he is handling his mistake. Everyone makes mistakes and shouldnt get burned down for it like DariusIII seems to want.
Anyways im not suprised that Darius had the least votes and by his posts he wont get much at all next election.
I wish Mitti gets re-elected for CSM8 wich i wouldnt be suprised at since he done shitloads for the eve community.
cut him some slack. keep dreaming they cannot allow one account that has an action aganst it to run and exclude others
but i think he will not run for csm 8 by himself goons will find someone else who is equally bad for sure
What a lot of goon need to realise is that its not because we hate you that we do these things Its because WE LOVE YOU |
Admiral Lysander
EVE Syndicate Navy Surely You're Joking
3
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Posted - 2012.03.29 14:36:00 -
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I love goon lol hail the mittani for ever
and even tho i understand both sides off this my guns are on mitt's side since your ingame actions and the tast off makeing eve better from the dev's side are 2 diffrent books
and anyway id rarther have a chairman who can **** the game so much he can find problems himselfm, than someone who is a a fluffy fairy
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Infinimo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
512
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Posted - 2012.03.29 15:32:00 -
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i love lamp Theta Squad best squad. Monocle crew represent~
10,058 |
Dramaticus
Goonswarm Federation
68
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Posted - 2012.03.29 15:43:00 -
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Cant make an omelet without breaking a few eggs! |
Kairos Antilles
United Systems Nautical Service
5
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Posted - 2012.03.29 16:13:00 -
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The Mittani wrote:With the increasingly high profile of the CSM in the wake of the Incarna Emergency Summit and the amazing turnout we had for the CSM7 elections, I have come to the conclusion that my two roles in EVE - that of the Chairman of the CSM as Alexander Gianturco, and the leader of Goonswarm as "The Mittani" are increasingly incompatible. It is, fundamentally, a problem of hats.
To me, this incompatibility is a fundamental problem for any member of the CSM, regardless of anything else that has transpired in your specific case in the last week. If a sitting CEO were to be elected President of the United States (or any public office), his/her ability to govern would be hamstrung by the threat of conflict of interest claims, legitimate or not. Similarly, any member of the CSM who is an alliance or corporate CEO will (and maybe should) be viewed through the skeptical prism of potential conflict of interest. Are they acting in the best interest of EVE as a whole, or for the best interest of a select minority? I am sure that this question has been beaten to death such that the horse is begging PETA for assistance - but it is still a valid concern.
Quote:The purpose of the CSM is to represent society interests to CCP. This requires active engagement with the player community to master EVE issue awareness, understanding, and evaluation in the context of the GÇ£greatest good for the greater player base."
Based on the above, the CSM should not have certain constituencies (read: their alliance/corp membership) bending their ears. If they do, their objectivity is compromised, no matter how much they try to separate their in-game character from their RL persona. |
mama guru
Evolution
39
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Posted - 2012.03.29 16:18:00 -
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darius III is an idiot news at 11. ______
EVE online is the fishermans friend of MMO's. If it's too hard you are too weak. |
Kairos Antilles
United Systems Nautical Service
5
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Posted - 2012.03.29 16:23:00 -
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Bojan Z wrote:Darius III wrote: Instead of this token gesture, if in fact this what you think will atone for what you have done-do something meaningful and quit the the Council completely so that the CSM may once again enjoy the respect of the player base. I doubt I can fully respect a CSM in which you sit, Darius III
I said the same thing about Congress and Nancy Pelosi. |
Ayeson
Hard Knocks Inc.
29
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Posted - 2012.03.29 16:33:00 -
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Kairos Antilles wrote:Bojan Z wrote:Darius III wrote: Instead of this token gesture, if in fact this what you think will atone for what you have done-do something meaningful and quit the the Council completely so that the CSM may once again enjoy the respect of the player base. I doubt I can fully respect a CSM in which you sit, Darius III I said the same thing about Congress and Nancy Pelosi.
Not emptyquoting |
Daviclond
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
103
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Posted - 2012.03.29 16:47:00 -
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https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1038152#post1038152
CSM 7: the council no-one voted for |
David Cedarbridge
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
196
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Posted - 2012.03.29 16:47:00 -
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Uinuva Karma wrote:David Cedarbridge wrote: Mittens provided a grain of sand that those who hated him so much managed to clench into the ugliest diamond they could manage. I find it suspect how nonchalant you are about the idea that people used the game you are playing as disposable ammunition in their crusade against a person they hated well in advance of Fan Fest.
Little bee I see you miss the voice of your mother I see you miss the taste of ice-cream And the sand of the beach between your little toes Come press your face of sorrow between my ample hills of femininity I soothe you, I hum a nameless tune for you Open your well of desperation and weep Empty your fountain of desperation, let it flow Open your empty eyes and see your tears run Down my ebony skin All the way down to my thirsty paradise Sun will dry your weary wings, You will fly again, little bee.
Wait, when did they add a Vogon rage to this game?
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Sir Marksalot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
122
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Posted - 2012.03.29 17:08:00 -
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Kairos Antilles wrote:Bojan Z wrote:Darius III wrote: Instead of this token gesture, if in fact this what you think will atone for what you have done-do something meaningful and quit the the Council completely so that the CSM may once again enjoy the respect of the player base. I doubt I can fully respect a CSM in which you sit, Darius III I said the same thing about Congress and Nancy Pelosi.
you're so edgy |
Woo Glin
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
507
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Posted - 2012.03.29 17:28:00 -
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i have 0 honour today |
Woo Glin
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
508
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Posted - 2012.03.29 17:29:00 -
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~*:mentally unstable sniper:*~ |
Rote515
Two Brothers Mining Corp. GIANTSBANE.
0
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Posted - 2012.03.29 19:05:00 -
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Naj Panora wrote:The Mittani wrote:Though I have received many letters of support (my inbox is full of these, and for them I thank you) and the major bloggers have called for me to remain on as Chair, there are still some who doubt the sincerity of my apology to the player concerned, who - unlike those attempting to make hay from my mistake - is the person that matters here. I said that I would resign; to demonstrate the sincerity of my words and my apology, I will do just that. With the increasingly high profile of the CSM in the wake of the Incarna Emergency Summit and the amazing turnout we had for the CSM7 elections, I have come to the conclusion that my two roles in EVE - that of the Chairman of the CSM as Alexander Gianturco, and the leader of Goonswarm as "The Mittani" are increasingly incompatible. It is, fundamentally, a problem of hats. . So basically you got the boot. Also a joke is one thing but what I seen on the webcast was way over the line. Personally I would love to see you charged with harassment and something else if anything happens to that guy.
Lmao, if that were to happen, 1 nothing would come of it, 2 if something did it would be a **** fest on all MMOs of epic proportion, 3. **** off troll. |
Minta Contha
Emergent Entity KONZERN
48
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Posted - 2012.03.29 19:38:00 -
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I have no love for the Goons, but fair credit to Mittens for recognising the dichotomy between character and player personalities and in the process revealing himself not to actually be the sociopathic nutbar that many would make him out to be. Let the enmity continue in the game, not in RL. My cooking is like my lovemaking - fast, greasy, and unsatisfying. |
Cap'n Tripps
Bloodnock Industries
5
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Posted - 2012.03.29 20:01:00 -
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Blawrf McTaggart wrote:Truly, for what it is truly worth, I think those that have acted despicably here - in this scenario - are not the members of Goonswarm or the Clusterfuck or Mittens himself, but those that have nurtured this little pearl of hatred for Mittens. The people who have acted despicably are not those who have spoken jesting comments about Mittens' words at fanfest, or about some pathetic threat of meta-suicide, but those that have used this thing for political gain.
The despicable I name as people like Jade Constantine, Darius III, Issler Dainze.
You are reprehensible examples of humanity. You are disgusting, hate-filled monstrosities who are ready to use the publicised mental instability of an unfortunate person in order to get a leg up over someone who has angered you so.
I pity each and every one of you.
LOL this from the Goons who have reveled for years in the tears and desperation they have caused with their ingame behaviour over the past few years.
I thought you liked being hated...
Are you surprised some people don't like what you are or what you represent?
Acted despicably?
I don't suppose it would entered your tiny little brain that perhaps some people believe that is exactly how you guys have been behaving in game over the years.
In game I think you are a bunch of shiteheads who need eradicating, which I attempt to do at every opportunity. I'd never dream of encouraging people to harass one of you who in RL was obviously disturbed, but then again that's perhaps because I can separate the two things and realise that EVE is a game. Can the people defending The Mittens' words say the same?
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Revolution Rising
Gentlemen of Better Ilk
230
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Posted - 2012.03.29 20:17:00 -
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Cap'n Tripps wrote:Blawrf McTaggart wrote:Truly, for what it is truly worth, I think those that have acted despicably here - in this scenario - are not the members of Goonswarm or the Clusterfuck or Mittens himself, but those that have nurtured this little pearl of hatred for Mittens. The people who have acted despicably are not those who have spoken jesting comments about Mittens' words at fanfest, or about some pathetic threat of meta-suicide, but those that have used this thing for political gain.
The despicable I name as people like Jade Constantine, Darius III, Issler Dainze.
You are reprehensible examples of humanity. You are disgusting, hate-filled monstrosities who are ready to use the publicised mental instability of an unfortunate person in order to get a leg up over someone who has angered you so.
I pity each and every one of you. LOL this from the Goons who have reveled for years in the tears and desperation they have caused with their ingame behaviour over the past few years. I thought you liked being hated... Are you surprised some people don't like what you are or what you represent? Acted despicably? I don't suppose it would entered your tiny little brain that perhaps some people believe that is exactly how you guys have been behaving in game over the years. In game I think you are a bunch of shiteheads who need eradicating, which I attempt to do at every opportunity. I'd never dream of encouraging people to harass one of you who in RL was obviously disturbed, but then again that's perhaps because I can separate the two things and realise that EVE is a game. Can the people defending The Mittens' words say the same?
The Irony is rife.
CSM7 Skype Leak
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Yirven
Uranium Powered Industries
0
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Posted - 2012.03.29 23:04:00 -
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Clicked OP's link expecting hats. Left severely disappointed. |
wanking monkey girl
Capital Maintenance
20
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Posted - 2012.03.29 23:51:00 -
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sweet sweet tears |
U'Mad Brogue
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
10
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Posted - 2012.03.30 01:11:00 -
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Delegado Cero wrote:It would be unfair to 10,058 voters if he didn't represent them.
Goon Tears are best tears. |
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