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Sochin
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Posted - 2004.06.18 13:39:00 -
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What does "turrets being audited" mean? Will Tuesday's patch have a fix for the horrible 1400mm nerf?
Nemo me impune lacessit
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Tsingtau
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Posted - 2004.06.18 13:53:00 -
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I would like a straight answer on how and when the projectile tracking and damage are going to be corrected. To the people who use projectiles almost exclusively this is a big issue, and while we know you are aware of the problem we would like a straight answer.
Also when I dock and than undock the screen comes up saying "tuning in on space frequency" but that is where it stops. I have to relog everytime and that corrects the problem, but is a pain in the ...
While I think the idea of these Patch Issues threads is a good idea, it does CCP no good to ignore most of the issues that are brought to your attention in these threads, all your doing is making a lot of your customers feel more and more disgusted with there gaming experience.
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OPTIMUSPRIME
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Posted - 2004.06.18 13:59:00 -
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my 425 suck they are missing all the time and doing not much damage. like i was hitting around 400 now only hitting around 160 poor
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Booky
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Posted - 2004.06.18 14:01:00 -
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Tsingtau, Rails got the same nerf. I too would hope that the patch fixes the hit rate at least a little. Not sure what projectile gun is for up close but until the 425mm gets a little better I will be useing mostly Large Neutrons and a webifier, this works great.
Im more worried about loseing my standing again as it takes forever to build. Spelling corrections welcome, but don't expect me to edit my post. |

Phaethon
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Posted - 2004.06.18 14:02:00 -
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You can delete channels in the channels list. You just have to enter the cahnnel first, then choose delete.
Of course this is a problem with passworded channels that you do not have the pwd to.
WTB. Infifitrator I drones |

CT BadIronTree
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Posted - 2004.06.18 14:07:00 -
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there are 0 of all new BP in the essence region and everyshore region :( ============================================ Colossus Technologies The first and oldest corp in eve! BadIronTree Head of Production
CSM Chat Log September 25, 2003: Fuhry> Some things we simply cannot test, and therefore we just put it on Tranq. cross our fingers and then get into panic mode. --------------------------------------- playing (or beta testing)since Sat, 2 Nov 2002 16:06 (beta 5) ---------------------------------------
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Diana Merris
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Posted - 2004.06.18 14:07:00 -
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Just to clarify things for people:
The turret issue is not about tracking, the tracking works ok. The problem is that the optimum/falloff range formula is messed up. Range, not tracking.
Just wanted to make sure the devs are looking in the right place and not getting confused by player posts.
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Anything
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Posted - 2004.06.18 14:10:00 -
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- 350mm Railgun I, Ballistic Control System I and Cruise Missile Launcher I are not listed on the market. The bp's are there, but you can't trade the finished article using the market.
- Missiles still have their old stats for flight time and max velocity, and I've tested this with lights, which are pretty much useless without the changes.
TBH, I really like eve, but even my resolve is being worn down by this disaster. How difficult is it to make sure the right items are available on the market, or have the right stats, when they were one of the main reasons to patch in the first place? As usual CCP, so close, yet so so far. Disappointing. |

KarateKid
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Posted - 2004.06.18 14:28:00 -
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Sure you can sell the new modules on the market, my corp already have them all up on market in lonetrek region. Working nicely
and I acctually like all the new changes they mabe, made the game much more fun. some minor bugs that need fixing like the entering space bug, but I guess thats being worked on.
Go devs! 
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Soul Seeker
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Posted - 2004.06.18 14:33:00 -
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Ok, some more testing this patch since the problems still seem to be here. Here is what I found:
After clearing the cache (to allow the map to come up at all). Setting way points (now?) work within the nav map. However, setting waypoints or destinations from my bookmakrks will make the nav map and autopilot break completely. I have update my official report questions with this info. Once the map is messed up the game is pretty much unplayable because you can use autopilot or bookmarks.
Hope this helps.
Soul
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sableye
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Posted - 2004.06.18 14:35:00 -
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I posted this in the last thread but figure I'll mention it again here, you can't view other people's transactions from there standings sheet, this was a useful feature all it says now though is no transactions to show, viewing your own transactions still works though.
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illuminati
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Posted - 2004.06.18 14:45:00 -
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I managed to get blackscreen undocking twice now and a corpmate of mine once. We both know about waiting 60secs, just wanted to test if it's still there :)
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Minsc
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Posted - 2004.06.18 15:07:00 -
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Originally by: Schmeck Bletherer
No response from yesterday leads me to further my queries today and all the more so angry I might add!!! 
Shaking bug? Many people have mentioned it and one on the post yesterday. What's up with that? Lost a Blackbird and had to replace it myself even though somewhat of a widespread bug 
Heavy missiles to do any damage what so ever? 
Just tried to take on a 125K Rax and had to warp out being reduced to 36% armor Can a Cruiser not combat another cruiser anymore then? I was in my Blackbird and had myself shield boosted to 1430 shield hp. The Rax was recharging the armor faster than I could take it off! My mate hasn't got his minerals back and HOPEFULLY something WILL MOST DEFINATELY be done about this! I did not mine and waste part of my days and subscription money for my own personal entertainment! I HATE MINING AND IT SUX! Finally to get his an Apoc which is now lost in cyber space. I find it VERY odd to be able to take out and kill a 500K Rax but not a 125K Rax  These Rax's I would expect deep in 0.0 maybe but not in 0.1 system and upwards. Balancing is all well and good but by ballancing some things you've thrown other things completely out of balance! I along with many other people am getting massively @X=+ú$ off with this now. It's 3 days and nothing has really been proposed of anything about anything. I know of many people who have left the game and also of 20 more people that are about to leave!! When you stop getting the mony in will you then realise you should have done something earlier?? Answering yesterday could have prevented my anger and out and out rage today with the lack of communication and to see other peoples queries answered who asked after me then WTF is all that about? Just trying to annoy people?! Hopefully I can get back to a game that I used to enjoy. Raising Heavies to 200hp has been agreed by LOADS of people as would only take it up to 250hp where cruise would still be at 375hp which is still a massive difference. Shaking Bug? What's going on... and finally minerals that we were told would be replaced after DT today!!! or as tactfully put "should" be replaced. How lame! A substitute should be made and resolutions becoming apparent as people are leaving this game at a rapid rate. Regards Schmeck Bletherer
Schmeck if you and your corpmate are still missing the stuff you were trying to trade Oveur told you to petition it and they will take care of it.
Shaking bug I have seen absolutely no evidence or threads on the message board about so no idea there. I think if you read the patch issues III thread you'll see that Oveur stated they had not been able to reproduce the bug so you will have to submit a bug report on that one.
As for heavy missles their damage is just fine, don't expect to be able to do as much damage as you used to with your BB and cruise/torps it's just not going to happen, remember everyone else is in the same boat so it's not like their after you specifically.
You can't expect them to be able to fix all of these problems in one day, if they new what was causing them they never would have happened in the first place. They have been doing hotfixes since patch day to fix things but the problems you are having may not be the easiest to fix.
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Blargle
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Posted - 2004.06.18 15:11:00 -
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1) unable to duplicate bookmarks: expected behaviour - shift click and drag to hold/hanger/container - a duplicate appears in target, orgional stays in list
2) seting waypoint on ateroid belt in same system as player breaks map: -Right-click in space, click Asteroid Belts -Click first belt -Click "Set WayPoint X" >expect "cannot set waypoint to the system you are already in) >Get no error message -Press f10 to load the map -Map will not load.
3) Micro Warp Drive does not function correctly approching stargate: -warp to stargate -approch gate -activate mwd(s) -you do not come anywhere near the max speed you expected I.E. Acceleration is canceled on approch as always, but the point where the accelleration stops is much further out now.
Even with two mwd's on a vigil i find I can hardly exceed 800m/s approcing the gate (should get about 2 or 3k/s)
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Ashelth
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Posted - 2004.06.18 15:22:00 -
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Things I've noticed:
Tracking computers ('Orion' and Optical thingies) give the proper range boost when you activate them, but the tracking bonus doesn't show up on the item stats.
Missile launcher stats are borked -- I doubt this was intentional since the drop tables for the named launchers seem to be identical (thus we're getting more "low" end launchers dropping which much superior stats to the "high" end ones)
The Infernos... should their bounty be 100k? With heavy missiles they aren't exactly any sort of threat in combat anymore. If they fired cruise missiles and were 100k then that'd make sense to me...
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Luther
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Posted - 2004.06.18 15:27:00 -
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Edited by: Luther on 18/06/2004 15:31:07 I've been told the things lost in trade will not be replaced until whatever needs fixing is fixed. Then GM told me it may be tomorrow or longer If you are now able to replace items lost through petitions now, could you confirm it Oveur, coz i really want my Megathron back tbh, tnx  ===============================================
has recieved the Minmatar Medal of Honor (keyring) from the Minmatar President (the eve online store)
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Tristan
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Posted - 2004.06.18 15:34:00 -
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No Remote Sensor Booster 1 BPo on the market, even after a years wait.
Armageddon still plastered with minmatar logo.
i bet the scythes textures are still messed up too.
Also when clicking for items info in market all i get is a window with a picture of some isk in it. ive only tried this on BP's though, might be that other items do work, i havent checked.
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Schmeck Bletherer
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Posted - 2004.06.18 15:44:00 -
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The thread that you talk of was exaclty where teh shaking bug was backed up by one other if not 2 saying they also have had it happen. I was trying to get the exact post but the thread has been locked which doesn't help to explain my cause. If it was to log a petition then what was the point in the thread? I along with the other 2 people that were awaiting a response never saw that post by Oveur which again has now been locked so cannot tell. The petition has been logged also though now and if that was stated then I guess we just have to wait which just makes patience wear even more thin with this game right now. I wasn't directly saying that they were picking on me for the missiles in particular but more so that about 5-6 questions after mine were answered and as I say had a few people checking it out and noone saw it. Conveniently cannot check now either so our word against yours I spose on that one. The missiles in comparison would not make a Cruiser a GOD like creation in any way but at least give it a better chance and keep some of the fun factor that used to be there. In relation to the balancing as I say I welcome it as to destroy a BS with a Cruiser was childish but to now make it near insignificant is pants! Raise the Heavies to 200 which after training would still only take them up to 250hp which isn't a scratch on the Cruise which is the next damage dealing coming in fully trained at 375hp. Atm though a NPC can take me with a shield ext down to 36% armor in a one on one fight is rubbish. For PvP then it would be sad to see that "Fun" (Everyone remembers fun right) out of Eve. Relating it to an unreal reality is kewl though and like the fact that you can no longer do 450hp plus damage with a cruiser each torp but 120 on average or NPC's is lame. 175hp granted with Thunderbolts but they kit themselves out obviously with hardeners for the armor as well as recharger and the best hit I've got is about 125hp...
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Jarjar
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Posted - 2004.06.18 16:05:00 -
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Originally by: Tristan
Armageddon still plastered with minmatar logo.
What?  I swear I saw threads about this being fixed, like half a year ago. Correct or not, but people was talking about it anyway.
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Oveur
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Posted - 2004.06.18 16:07:00 -
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Originally by: Marcus Aurelius It seems GM's do NOT replace shiplosses from the hit can -> CONCORD gank you, bug. Have the GM's been informed that this is a verfied bug and thus lost items will be replaced as according to the rules ccp has set ?
The losses should be verifiable, and if not, though luck on ccp i imagine. Bug liek this one cause too much grief not to be compensated for.
Missiles should no longer cause accidental CONCORD responses. Player owned objects in space will still trigger CONCORD response if using area of effect weapons.
Players encountering this before todays downtime should contact customer support to examine their eligibility for reimbursement. (Renew your petitions, do not send new ones, if you reached Customer Support before this policy was put in place.) _____________________________ I say hey sky, s'other say I won say, I pray to J I get the same ol' same ol. |

Luther
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Posted - 2004.06.18 16:12:00 -
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Edited by: Luther on 18/06/2004 16:43:18
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has recieved the Minmatar Medal of Honor (keyring) from the Minmatar President (the eve online store)
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2004.06.18 16:12:00 -
[52]
So what if we deliberately fired on a can without knowing about the change?
"As far as I can tell, It doesn't matter who you are, If you can believe there's something worth fighting for " - Garbage, "Parade" |

Oveur
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Posted - 2004.06.18 16:12:00 -
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Originally by: Hardin Not just the Punisher - All Amarr frigs seem to have mass doubled 
Even the Executioner - which according to the storyline was designed specifically as a lightweight fighter to combat Minmatars.
Please CCP look at this change to Amarr frigs again (if its not a bug) - and do not apply a wholescale doubling but something more intelligent for each ship!
Seems we gave the Amarr so much love in this patch that their ship grew fat 
But on a serious note, it's being looked into. I'm Amarr myself so we can't LET THIS HAPPEN TO US HARDIN, CAN WE?!?!elevenoneone _____________________________ I say hey sky, s'other say I won say, I pray to J I get the same ol' same ol. |

Anything
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Posted - 2004.06.18 16:14:00 -
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Originally by: KarateKid Sure you can sell the new modules on the market, my corp already have them all up on market in lonetrek region. Working nicely
I'm in lonetrek right now and not only do I not see your modules on the market, I do not even see the entries for them. I searched and then browsed for each of the three new modules, each time finding the BP, but not the module itself. |

Oveur
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Posted - 2004.06.18 16:18:00 -
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Originally by: Slarty Bardfast Sansha's Nation has invaded Fountain.
I havn't seen any Serpantis/Guardian battleships since the patch, its all Sansha's.
The Galactic Bad Guy Summit has ended, the delegates returning to their homes again. General consensus was that opposition pilots were "TEH BOM" and that the pirate factions needed to "lay some smack down" while "going medieval on their asses".
Prompted for what "medieval" was, Sansha spokesman said "it was something he saw in some ancient retro movie and sounded 1337". _____________________________ I say hey sky, s'other say I won say, I pray to J I get the same ol' same ol. |

Oveur
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Posted - 2004.06.18 16:24:00 -
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Originally by: Nightfang No sound makes Nightfang go crazy.
Seriously, Oveur. The game has never been as boring as in the last few days. You can't have any sound at all because EVE makes it behave in a way which gives you a headache.
This will make me quit the game if I will have to wait for some Soon (TM) patch to fix it. Trust me. Probably the rest of the community with the same problem as well...
Not because of whinage over balance changes, but because of ruined experience.
Nightfang, we really need good Log Server log of this happening, so if you could please send one to [email protected] it will get the attention it deservves. We don't have any reproducible bug reports on this issue and we'd really like this thing solved. (We have tried to get reproduce this ourselves to no avail, meaning it's very likely driver/hardware/os specific mismatch with EVE). _____________________________ I say hey sky, s'other say I won say, I pray to J I get the same ol' same ol. |

CKOZUK
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Posted - 2004.06.18 16:33:00 -
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oveur is theer only a limited amount of the new items bpos being released? The above text is my own views which may not represent my corps views.
 
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Oveur
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Posted - 2004.06.18 16:37:00 -
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Originally by: Oohwha Schipperman Still haven't seen a response to the issue about AB use triggering aggro from station defenses.
Is this intended? If so, what other entities will try to kill you for AB use? If it's a bug, when will it be fixed?
Not intended, still being debugged and we still can't reproduce it. Logs appreciated to [email protected]  _____________________________ I say hey sky, s'other say I won say, I pray to J I get the same ol' same ol. |

0verkill
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Posted - 2004.06.18 16:40:00 -
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Power diags used with a sheild boost amp cuases a stcking nerf on the sheild boost amp which lowers its boost abount to below the amount you would have without the power diags. 0verkill Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean we aren't out to get you.
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2004.06.18 16:40:00 -
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local bug local bug local bug local bug.
fixed? -
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