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Lenrir Andven
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
73
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Posted - 2012.03.29 10:28:00 -
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Jada Maroo wrote:I hope he set his training queue.
implying Mittens logs in...at all. |
Zalifer Esepula
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
3
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Posted - 2012.03.29 10:29:00 -
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CCP I love you, but this is a mistake.
I hope you fix this ASAP. He stepped down as CSM 7 Chair, but there should be no problem with him being on the CSM. He was the leading candidate.
Creating a position that is voted for by players and then just taking away the person voted for is a breach of our trust and respect. I understand that there was some bad media, but this is something that is going to look even worse for the people who matter, the people who play the game. Who cares if some soccer mom thinks EVE is evil, she didn't subscribe anyway. Anyone who plays EVE wants real player elected CSM, and 10058 of them want The Mittani. |
Dirk Decibel
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
16
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Posted - 2012.03.29 10:30:00 -
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Kai Jyokoroi wrote:Also everything that has happened here is not regrettable, it's god-damn hilarious and you're all a bunch of whiny thin-skinned crybabies with an entitlement complex
Indeed, been a while since I had such a good laugh at Goons. Thanks Mittens!
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Rihanna Hawksworthy
Street Birds
0
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Posted - 2012.03.29 10:31:00 -
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If 10 thousand votes have been lost because an EvE character has renaged on his responsibilities by his own actions, well oh my, isn't that just sweet. |
Katrina Bekers
Rim Collection RC Test Alliance Please Ignore
80
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Posted - 2012.03.29 10:31:00 -
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Nice that all the comments cheering up the CCP move come from characters in NPC corps.
Where are your balls, gentlemen?
(This without any comment on the merit of the decision itself, the panel events, or anything related to loving/hating Goons. Just pointing out how rotten the woodwork should be, for these cockroaches to come crawling out of it.) << THE RABBLE BRIGADE >> |
Aruken Marr
BSC LEGION Tactical Narcotics Team
47
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Posted - 2012.03.29 10:34:00 -
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Katrina Bekers wrote:Nice that all most of the comments cheering up the CCP move come from characters in NPC corps.
Where are your balls, gentlemen?
(This without any comment on the merit of the decision itself, the panel events, or anything related to loving/hating Goons. Just pointing out how rotten the woodwork should be, for these cockroaches to come crawling out of it.)
Not empty quoting |
Chicken Pizza
Penumbra Institute
34
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Posted - 2012.03.29 10:38:00 -
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Sanche Tehkeli wrote: Such fallacy is itching me. So, since you are the kind to argue with numbers, logic and math, at least do it right.
Scratch yourself. This is not an argument; it's an assertion. Like it or leave it. Actually, I do love circular discussion. Maybe I shall indulge.
Sanche Tehkeli wrote: 1. 1/7 of all cast votes were for the Mittani. It's a fact that cannot be denied. He came first of all candidates. As additional figure, this very candidate has more than 200% of cast votes than his first follower after him (2nd position is Two Step with 4,150 votes.)
Irrelevant. Where's my easy button? I need to give it a push.
Sanche Tehkeli wrote:2. 6/7 of all cast votes were for OTHER candidates, spread among them. You can never assert it is against a pick, always it is for pick. This is on the same ground as your own logic. To be able to tell "83% of the votes/voters did NOT want Mittani for CSM" (quoting you) you have to ask each individual voter of its intent. Again : 17% were for him, 83% were for (many) others. This is maths.
You're either for or against something in a democratic vote. There is no undecided, unless you choose to abstain. It's pretty black-and-white. If it's multiple choice, you are for ONE choice and against ALL others. If you deny that logic, I have nothing more to say to you.
Sanche Tehkeli wrote:3. Parallel with RL is irrelevant. As always you should make parallels between things comparable in all aspects, or issue disclaimers and restrictions. This is argumentation. There are aspects in common between CSM elections and RL elections and things that are completely different. Voting system is different, result assessing is different... Etc.
I don't know where people like you get off thinking that "real life" doesn't include what you say on the internet. Are you roleplaying right now, or are you speaking as yourself? Are the things you say to people online anonymous to you as well? If so, I'd highly suggest seeing a psychiatrist, as that sounds like a problem only drugs are going to solve.
Sanche Tehkeli wrote: 4. If you don't agree, be constructive when you argue your point. You're posing and gave no useful information/argument.
So far, 5 people have found my post useful enough to actually go out of their way to click the "like" button. I'd say that mildly exceeds yours thus far. I'd also say that makes you a hypocrite.
EDIT: Have you ever heard of the oral voting system, "yea or nay"? "Yea" means FOR. "Nay" means AGAINST. |
Smoking Blunts
ZC Industries Dark Stripes
217
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Posted - 2012.03.29 10:40:00 -
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Katrina Bekers wrote:Nice that all most of the comments cheering up the CCP move come from characters in NPC corps.
Where are your balls, gentlemen?
(This without any comment on the merit of the decision itself, the panel events, or anything related to loving/hating Goons. Just pointing out how rotten the woodwork should be, for these cockroaches to come crawling out of it.)
he did something very stupid and something had to be done. i think that him stepping down from the csm was the right action after a very foolish one, but the 30day ban is meaning less and a waste of time. CCP-áare full of words and no action. We will watch what they are doing, for now
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Dirk Decibel
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
17
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Posted - 2012.03.29 10:41:00 -
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Katrina Bekers wrote:Nice that all most of the comments cheering up the CCP move come from characters in NPC corps.
Where are your balls, gentlemen?
Are you one of those rare ppl who still hold e-honor in high regards?
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Irisandra T'Lavel
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2012.03.29 10:46:00 -
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Katrina Bekers wrote:Nice that all most of the comments cheering up the CCP move come from characters in NPC corps.
Where are your balls, gentlemen?
(This without any comment on the merit of the decision itself, the panel events, or anything related to loving/hating Goons. Just pointing out how rotten the woodwork should be, for these cockroaches to come crawling out of it.) Some of us actually live in NPC coprs. I have no other toons in other corps...Is there something wrong with me for not mindlessly following the top few corps? Does that make my CSM votes worth less than yours? |
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Zhade Lezte
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
32
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Posted - 2012.03.29 10:47:00 -
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Not particularly interested in feeding all the trolls with a clear agenda anymore.
I've said my piece, but let me extend a heartfelt thanks to Two Step for openly disagreeing with this decision and the many members of the CSM who consider this disenfranchisement a serious issue and something that needs to be discussed, of which I see several on the first page. Looking forward to hearing from you all as this discussion continues. |
Jada Maroo
Mysterium Astrometrics Bringers of Death.
701
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Posted - 2012.03.29 10:47:00 -
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You people are too short sighted. Within a year the ban will be long over and he'll be elected to CSM8 with well over 10058 votes as some sort of Eve troll folk hero. Stop crying, take it like Goons, plan your comeback. It's not like you haven't done it before. |
1Of9
Body Count Inc. Pandemic Legion
38
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Posted - 2012.03.29 10:49:00 -
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1Of9 wrote:1Of9 wrote:Thank you ccp.
You did the right thing, altho the CSM rules state that he cannot run for CSM again.
Plz explain why you are allowing him to run again in the future. to pinpoint my claim: http://community.eveonline.com/download/devblog/CSM.pdfon page 20 it says, and i quote: Quote:
CSM representative conduct
any behavior or actions considered being a material breach of the eula or tos by a Csm representative is grounds for immediate dismissal and permanent exclusion from all pending and future participation in the council. there are no exceptions, regardless of the infraction. representatives are not only expected to uphold the social contract that all society members are held accountable to, but should also set a behavior standard for everyone else to follow.
In light of this, ccp please explain why he will be able to run for CSM in the future.
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Irisandra T'Lavel
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2012.03.29 10:50:00 -
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Jada Maroo wrote:You people are too short sighted. Within a year the ban will be long over and he'll be elected to CSM8 with well over 10058 votes as some sort of Eve troll folk hero. Stop crying, take it like Goons, plan your comeback. It's not like you haven't done it before.
Dev Blog wrote:As per our policies, this candidate may be eligible to run at a later date subject to candidacy review. Maybe. Will he be eligible in a year? |
Dirk Decibel
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
17
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Posted - 2012.03.29 10:51:00 -
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Jada Maroo wrote:You people are too short sighted. Within a year the ban will be long over and he'll be elected to CSM8 with well over 10058 votes as some sort of Eve troll folk hero. Stop crying, take it like Goons, plan your comeback. It's not like you haven't done it before. I wonder if Mittens can be arsed to go for another term though. This turn of events would be extremely demotivating for most ppl. |
Marduua Damman
Damman Trading Co
3
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Posted - 2012.03.29 10:56:00 -
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I'm just just god-dammed amazed. - I thought the player base had more brains and compassion!
I've written about 4 replies describing how I feel about the majority of the comments here. Deleted them all and started again.
Perhaps bullet points will do
- GET SOME F__KING PERSPECTIVE!
- SUICIDE IS SERIOUS
- YOUR VOTES DON'T MATTER
M is living the consequences of his actions, and from what I can gather, he understands this too.
CCP has reacted well in the situation.
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Diamonica Norya
University of Caille Gallente Federation
18
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Posted - 2012.03.29 11:10:00 -
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Dirk Decibel wrote:Katrina Bekers wrote:Nice that all most of the comments cheering up the CCP move come from characters in NPC corps.
Where are your balls, gentlemen?
Are you one of those rare ppl who still hold e-honor in high regards?
In that case, he is also too mentally attached to the game and can't differentiate reality and virtual worlds like many of his fellow corp/alliance/coalition mates as well as their leader. |
Joss56
Kernel of War Goonswarm Federation
7
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Posted - 2012.03.29 11:16:00 -
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10 058 bees after you.
BzzzZZZZZzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZ |
Sedilis
Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
11
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Posted - 2012.03.29 11:19:00 -
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30 day ban fair enough Stepping down as chair is a good gesture Leaving CSM7? Way over the top...
I while I voted for Two Step, the CSM without Mittens will be greatly diminished. His ability to rally the council to speak with one voice helped get the game through its most difficult year in 2011. I hope this decision gets reversed because the players and CCP need you on this council. |
T'hena Kha'tek
Austudy The Welfare State
0
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Posted - 2012.03.29 11:39:00 -
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Quote:10 058 bees after you.
Grow a spine would you and get your facts straight. There is only 8323 people in your alliance and out of the 123 corps under your umbrella, 3601 are under the gewns ticker. So even if all 8323 voted which is highly unlikey unless all corp's kick inactive members after 4-6 weeks your only looking at 2000-3000 active players based on a 1.8 vote per person with a few other alliances in CFC making up the numbers.
So No there is probably only 2-3k bumble bees and the rest are Pubbies arent they ? |
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Maul555
Nuts and Vindictive Remix Technologies
31
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Posted - 2012.03.29 11:44:00 -
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Hey guys, great day for a thread, eh?... I just thought I would put in my 2 cents and say that I did not participate in CSM elections and this has little or no effect on me. That being said, Mittens did the right thing by stepping down as chairmen, but I think that throwing him off the CSM is a bit much. As someone else said, what did CCP think would happen when you put a bunch of professional assholes in one room, get them drunk, and put them on TV?
BTW, none of my statements should lead CCP to believe that cutting back on alcohol at fan fest would be a good idea... |
Merasa Tro
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.03.29 11:48:00 -
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If (in the real world) I voted for a party or politician who ended up doing something stupid, and he resigned, my vote would be 'lost', its just the way democracy works.
Some random bloke I've never heard of would be put in as the replacement, or a vote might be forced, depends on your countrys rules on 'democary'.
I voted for a CSM delegate that didnt even get in, is my vote 'lost'? No.. Its the way the system works.
The same system works for CSM, time to find the rule book, or create a rule now based on this precident.. Its not like it could NEVER happen again. |
Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
451
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Posted - 2012.03.29 11:53:00 -
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Eve isnt real life. Eve is Eve, dont try and make comparisons.
My opinion is that a total revote should take place. Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing. |
Lance Starfury
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.03.29 11:58:00 -
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Good, all goons delete your accounts please
I will resubscribe 4 more accounts and entice the 100's of people I know to also come back to Eve. Thanks for doing the right thing CCP, GREAT work.
Of course, the best part is simply the IRONY of a goon being gooned :P When the shoe is on the other foot, it is not so funny is it. Hahahahahahahahahah to infinity!!!
love and wet sloppy kisses. |
Dirk Decibel
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
18
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Posted - 2012.03.29 11:58:00 -
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Rico Minali wrote:Eve isnt real life. Eve is Eve, dont try and make comparisons.
My opinion is that a total revote should take place.
Revote cuz of one delegate stepping down/being kicked out? Brotha plz.... |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1333
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Posted - 2012.03.29 12:05:00 -
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Aruken Marr wrote:Katrina Bekers wrote:Nice that all most of the comments cheering up the CCP move come from characters in NPC corps.
Where are your balls, gentlemen?
(This without any comment on the merit of the decision itself, the panel events, or anything related to loving/hating Goons. Just pointing out how rotten the woodwork should be, for these cockroaches to come crawling out of it.) Not empty quoting
Looks like you're really saying - Don't look at the 'Tracks Of My Tears'.
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Sylvia Tran
Sylvia Tran's Transporation Services
1
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Posted - 2012.03.29 12:09:00 -
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hahahahahahahahahah |
Agonising Ecstacy
State War Academy Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2012.03.29 12:09:00 -
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Mittens,
This only happened because you didn't have your Douche Canoe Protection Insurance. Avoid future costly errors, by depositing 10058 million isks into the wallet of Agonising Ecstacy. A certificate will be issued forthwith, indemnifying you against the costs of such blunders in the future.
Amidoinitrite?
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Kai Pirinha
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
6
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Posted - 2012.03.29 12:16:00 -
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Sedilis wrote:His ability to rally the council to speak with one voice helped get the game through its most difficult year in 2011. That may well be the case, but this gives im no way the right to act in anyway as he did! And considering what he did, a 30 day ban is very, very, very generous.
I said it before and I'll say it again: he can be so lucky nobody's pressing charges against him, he'd end up in jail for the attempt to drive a person towards suicide and for abetting thousands (10.058?) of other people to do the same.
It's so sad to see that most of you goon pets don't realize what he has done.
At least he did realize it and stepped down (or maybe was forced to step down, who really cares, fact is he is gone and he is fine with it! Deal with it!) |
Avila Cracko
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
268
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Posted - 2012.03.29 12:24:00 -
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Joss56 wrote:10 058 bees after you.
BzzzZZZZZzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZ
What 10 058 votes? You mean 8,447 30 day alts/accounts made only for voting and the 1611 legitimate players votes?
http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=28529 What 10 058 votes? You mean 8,447-á30day alts/accounts made only for voting, and the 1611 legitimate players votes? data from: http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=28529 |
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