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SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
164
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Posted - 2012.03.28 22:52:00 -
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You have silenced roughly 17% of the active voters in this CSM election. If CCP gives even the slightest interest in fairness there will be either another round of elections or at the very least the 10058 should be allowed to recast their votes amongst the people in the running.
You did what you thought was right in banning Mittens and removing him from the CSM. Now do what's right in ensuring I'm not disenfranchised by your actions. |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
1969
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Posted - 2012.03.28 22:53:00 -
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I HATE U GOOSN (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
1969
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Posted - 2012.03.28 22:53:00 -
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THRILL URSELF (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
adam smash
University of Caille Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2012.03.28 22:54:00 -
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Hey maybe those 17% should quit in protest
I LIKE THAT PLAN. |
Liam Mirren
382
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Posted - 2012.03.28 22:54:00 -
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SmilingVagrant wrote:You have silenced roughly 17% of the active voters in this CSM election. If CCP gives even the slightest interest in fairness there will be either another round of elections or at the very least the 10058 should be allowed to recast their votes amongst the people in the running.
You did what you thought was right in banning Mittens and removing him from the CSM. Now do what's right in ensuring I'm not disenfranchised by your actions.
That's fine, it didn't represent me either. Deal with it.
Excellence is not a skill, it's an attitude.
My guides: http://mirren.freeforums.org |
Andr Katelo
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.03.28 22:54:00 -
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I am surprised to you came forth and posted this. And I do think that he displayed incapability to be holding his current position, but that is just my opinion... |
Avila Cracko
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
251
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Posted - 2012.03.28 22:54:00 -
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~ get used to it ~
and, less then 3% of player-base is not large percentage.
And yea, verdict was light. |
masternerdguy
Inner Shadow NightSong Directorate
73
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Posted - 2012.03.28 22:54:00 -
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Wrong. They are going to come to hi sec to play with all the little people who they feel insulted by. Glad I don't live in hi sec, personally. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
DelightSucker
Perkone Caldari State
34
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Posted - 2012.03.28 22:55:00 -
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SmilingVagrant wrote:You have silenced roughly 17% of the active voters in this CSM election. If CCP gives even the slightest interest in fairness there will be either another round of elections or at the very least the 10058 should be allowed to recast their votes amongst the people in the running.
You did what you thought was right in banning Mittens and removing him from the CSM. Now do what's right in ensuring I'm not disenfranchised by your actions.
No Mittens did that. aim your Anger at him. |
penguin man
Spricer Raiden.
4
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Posted - 2012.03.28 22:55:00 -
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So So bad goonie
I don't think any eve player that is not a goon will give any Fuc*s about this. |
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Revii Lagoon
The Foreign Legion Test Alliance Please Ignore
34
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Posted - 2012.03.28 22:57:00 -
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Jita will burn |
Li Ter
Me Shoot Laser You Eye
4
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Posted - 2012.03.28 22:58:00 -
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good riddance |
adam smash
University of Caille Gallente Federation
12
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Posted - 2012.03.28 22:59:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:Wrong. They are going to come to hi sec to play with all the little people who they feel insulted by. Glad I don't live in hi sec, personally.
If goons made hi sec unplayable CCP would end up buffing concord or something lol...
They would do nothing but HELP the carebears... in the end...
That being said... what they gona do gank hulks/macks again? lulz. |
adopt
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
354
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:02:00 -
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adam smash wrote:masternerdguy wrote:Wrong. They are going to come to hi sec to play with all the little people who they feel insulted by. Glad I don't live in hi sec, personally. If goons made hi sec unplayable CCP would end up buffing concord or something lol... They would do nothing but HELP the carebears... in the end... That being said... what they gona do gank hulks/macks again? lulz.
What about a system wide hellcamp? Say for instance, Jita? Image what that would do to EVE's already crippled economy. Shadoo > Always remember to fit Cynosural Field Generator I, have 450 Liquid Ozone in your cargo and convo a friendly Pandemic Legion member if you have a capital or super capital ship tackled.
FREE XOLVE ~ THE HERO TEST NEEDS |
Ai Shun
451
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:03:00 -
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SmilingVagrant wrote:You have silenced roughly 17% of the active voters in this CSM election. If CCP gives even the slightest interest in fairness there will be either another round of elections or at the very least the 10058 should be allowed to recast their votes amongst the people in the running.
I agree with this. The candidate that got 17% of the votes cast has been removed. There should be a new election.
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Kyle Myr
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
199
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:04:00 -
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Avila Cracko wrote:~ get used to it ~
and, less then 3% of player-base is not large percentage.
And yea, verdict was light.
Did you vote? Do you understand what a democracy is?
In case you're a sub-literate drooling internet dweller than never reached the basic standards required to understand participatory government, here's a definition.
democracy: government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system. |
Moon Kitten
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
7
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:07:00 -
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SmilingVagrant wrote:You have silenced roughly 17% of the active voters in this CSM election. If CCP gives even the slightest interest in fairness there will be either another round of elections or at the very least the 10058 should be allowed to recast their votes amongst the people in the running.
You did what you thought was right in banning Mittens and removing him from the CSM. Now do what's right in ensuring I'm not disenfranchised by your actions.
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Avila Cracko
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
251
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:08:00 -
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Kyle Myr wrote:Avila Cracko wrote:~ get used to it ~
and, less then 3% of player-base is not large percentage.
And yea, verdict was light. Did you vote? Do you understand what a democracy is? In case you're a sub-literate drooling internet dweller than never reached the basic standards required to understand participatory government, here's a definition. democracy: government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system.
I know what democracy is... matter of fact I was on 3 political functions and I was elected for them in RL.
And i also know what the felony is. |
SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
169
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:09:00 -
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Kyle Myr wrote:Avila Cracko wrote:~ get used to it ~
and, less then 3% of player-base is not large percentage.
And yea, verdict was light. Did you vote? Do you understand what a democracy is? In case you're a sub-literate drooling internet dweller than never reached the basic standards required to understand participatory government, here's a definition. democracy: government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system.
And by kicking The Mittani out of the CSM they are ignoring over 17% of the active voters in the entire process.
I have no illusions about Mittens being on the CSM. He's gone.
However in situations like this what should happen is a recall election. Let me cast my vote elsewhere. Two Step is likely to get one of them just for being a chill space bro. |
SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
169
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:11:00 -
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Avila Cracko wrote:Kyle Myr wrote:Avila Cracko wrote:~ get used to it ~
and, less then 3% of player-base is not large percentage.
And yea, verdict was light. Did you vote? Do you understand what a democracy is? In case you're a sub-literate drooling internet dweller than never reached the basic standards required to understand participatory government, here's a definition. democracy: government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system. I know what democracy is... matter of fact I was on 3 political functions and I was elected for them in RL. And i also know what the felony is.
And in what system did you get elected to where the elected person was replaced by some random person in the crowd? This is voter nullification. If you give a **** about your ideals you claim to have worked for at some point you would realize that a recall election should be in the cards. |
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1371
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:13:00 -
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adopt wrote:adam smash wrote:masternerdguy wrote:Wrong. They are going to come to hi sec to play with all the little people who they feel insulted by. Glad I don't live in hi sec, personally. If goons made hi sec unplayable CCP would end up buffing concord or something lol... They would do nothing but HELP the carebears... in the end... That being said... what they gona do gank hulks/macks again? lulz. What about a system wide hellcamp? Say for instance, Jita? Image what that would do to EVE's already crippled economy.
Finally encourage people to use regional markets, as they should have a long time ago? When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Ai Shun
455
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:15:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Finally encourage people to use regional markets, as they should have a long time ago?
Very good! I like how this out of game debacle is being turned into something in-game. It is part of the magic of EVE Online and the whole political landscape has just been shook up. It will be very interesting to see how Goonswarm reacts and what response to that is mustered.
I'm still getting out of Jita though ... time to go hide in my bolthole
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adam smash
University of Caille Gallente Federation
14
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:16:00 -
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SmilingVagrant wrote:Kyle Myr wrote:Avila Cracko wrote:~ get used to it ~
and, less then 3% of player-base is not large percentage.
And yea, verdict was light. Did you vote? Do you understand what a democracy is? In case you're a sub-literate drooling internet dweller than never reached the basic standards required to understand participatory government, here's a definition. democracy: government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system. And by kicking The Mittani out of the CSM they are ignoring over 17% of the active voters in the entire process. I have no illusions about Mittens being on the CSM. He's gone. However in situations like this what should happen is a recall election. Let me cast my vote elsewhere. Two Step is likely to get one of them just for being a chill space bro.
Lets look at the american way... you can win the pop vote and still lose... why... because the electoral college was put in place to prevent the people from making a bad choice LOL...
LOOKS LIKE RL WORKING FINE IN EVE... ccp has removed the players bad choice. |
Avila Cracko
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
253
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:18:00 -
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SmilingVagrant wrote:Avila Cracko wrote:Kyle Myr wrote:Avila Cracko wrote:~ get used to it ~
and, less then 3% of player-base is not large percentage.
And yea, verdict was light. Did you vote? Do you understand what a democracy is? In case you're a sub-literate drooling internet dweller than never reached the basic standards required to understand participatory government, here's a definition. democracy: government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system. I know what democracy is... matter of fact I was on 3 political functions and I was elected for them in RL. And i also know what the felony is. And in what system did you get elected to where the elected person was replaced by some random person in the crowd? This is voter nullification. If you give a **** about your ideals you claim to have worked for at some point you would realize that a recall election should be in the cards.
If elected person commits a felony he must be replaced. At least thats what its like in countries where the law is ruling and laws mean something. |
Montevius Williams
Eclipse Industrial Inc Order of the Void
240
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:20:00 -
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Oh noes, but then there would be no more Goonswarm |
SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
171
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:21:00 -
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Avila Cracko wrote:SmilingVagrant wrote:Avila Cracko wrote:Kyle Myr wrote:Avila Cracko wrote:~ get used to it ~
and, less then 3% of player-base is not large percentage.
And yea, verdict was light. Did you vote? Do you understand what a democracy is? In case you're a sub-literate drooling internet dweller than never reached the basic standards required to understand participatory government, here's a definition. democracy: government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system. I know what democracy is... matter of fact I was on 3 political functions and I was elected for them in RL. And i also know what the felony is. And in what system did you get elected to where the elected person was replaced by some random person in the crowd? This is voter nullification. If you give a **** about your ideals you claim to have worked for at some point you would realize that a recall election should be in the cards. If elected person commits a felony he must be replaced. At least thats what its like in countries where the law is ruling and laws mean something.
Yeah and he's replaced in a recall election. Not by random fiat, or by picking the next guy in line.
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Amity Lane
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
106
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:23:00 -
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Reposting in this thread since there's two on the same subject right now. I'm sure one will be closed eventually, but until then...
That's not how it works. If a President is impeached and removed from office, they don't just hold a new Presidential election right then and there. There's an order of succession, and that's what will take over.
I can understand feeling disenfranchised right now. The person you voted for, and who won in what can only be described as a massive landslide, will not in fact be holding the position he was elected to. It seems unfair. Unfortunately, that's how the process works.
When you make a choice that doesn't work out for you, you can't just suddenly demand to do it over with new options. You have to live with the consequences of your choice. You chose a person who later committed actions that caused him to be removed from office.
Such is life. |
Avila Cracko
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
253
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:24:00 -
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SmilingVagrant wrote:Avila Cracko wrote:SmilingVagrant wrote:Avila Cracko wrote:Kyle Myr wrote:
Did you vote? Do you understand what a democracy is?
In case you're a sub-literate drooling internet dweller than never reached the basic standards required to understand participatory government, here's a definition.
democracy: government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system.
I know what democracy is... matter of fact I was on 3 political functions and I was elected for them in RL. And i also know what the felony is. And in what system did you get elected to where the elected person was replaced by some random person in the crowd? This is voter nullification. If you give a **** about your ideals you claim to have worked for at some point you would realize that a recall election should be in the cards. If elected person commits a felony he must be replaced. At least thats what its like in countries where the law is ruling and laws mean something. Yeah and he's replaced in a recall election. Not by random fiat, or by picking the next guy in line.
He is replaced by the rules written in the law of that country. I think CCP needs to expand their "laws" on this subject. |
Ai Shun
455
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:24:00 -
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SmilingVagrant wrote:Yeah and he's replaced in a recall election. Not by random fiat, or by picking the next guy in line.
Indeed, The Mittani is not a president - he is (was) a member of the CSM. This is essentially a By Election; nothing more.
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Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
576
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:30:00 -
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Nicolo da'Vicenza for CSM7.5
ban npc corps |
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