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Aylleen
Die Hard Carebears
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Posted - 2012.03.29 03:55:00 -
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Nothing like alcohol to expose one's own true self.
It is just sad that a person trusted by the community to a position of leadership betrays that trust engaging in downright questionable - if not criminal - behavior.
I urge CCP to ban Alex Gianturco from EVE Online FOREVER. A 30-day ban? Really, CCP? A person engages in criminal behavior, and a 30-day ban is the punishment? Where is your moral compass, Hilmar? What if the victim was YOUR daughter? How would you answer that?
Once again, CCP stumbles from the righteous road because it lacks a moral compass. Only this time there is no grey scales, a real crime has been committed, and both CCP and Alex Gianturco must answer it accordingly.
To keep things in perspective, I just Googled Iceland's Penal Code, and I found this:
Quote: Art. 17 A penalty shall be ordered although an offence has been committed under the heavy influence of alcohol or other drugs. A penalty shall, however, not be ordered if the offender was completely unconscious, unless he or she knew in advance, or had full reason to expect, that the offence would be committed under such influence or that the offence would follow from this his/her condition
Art. 214 In case a person be conducive to another personGÇÖ;s committing suicide he/she shall be subject to [imprisonment for up to 1 year] 1) or fines. In case this be done for a selfish purpose the penalty shall be imprisonment for up to 3 years.
Art. 229 Anyone officially disclosing the private affairs of another without sufficient reasons being at hand to justify the act shall be subject to fines or [imprisonment] 1) for up to 1 year
Art. 233 Anyone threatening to commit a punishable act, the threat being apt to arousing fear with another for his/her life, health or welfare or that of others shall be subject to fines ?1) or imprisonment for up to 2 years.
A case can be made at Iceland Justice System against Alex Gianturco on account of:
a. Gianturco publicly disclosed a personal letter containing sensitive and private information without any sufficient reason. He premeditated the act. Therefore he can be indicted on the Art. 229 mentione above.
b. Gianturco threatened the life of another person by asking the audience to find him and harass him until he killed himself. Therefore he can be indicted on the Art. 233 mentioned above. If the person actually committed suicide, he would be also indicted on the Art 229.
Not much can be said when the legal norm is made clear. I pray that CCP will do the right thing by banning Gianturco from EVE Online, and denounce him to Iceland's General Prosecutor.
After all, EVE should be about having fun, not about committing crimes. |
Javier McPoopbeard
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.29 03:56:00 -
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lol |
Daviclond
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.29 03:56:00 -
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i agree with da op |
Pillowtalk
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.03.29 03:58:00 -
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I agree with her. I don't think a lot of people realize just how serious what happened is. |
Sverige Pahis
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.29 03:59:00 -
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Thank you for the unneeded reminder that having google doesn't make you versed in a country's law |
Xander Riggs
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.29 04:00:00 -
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Yeah, this totally isn't personal, or anything. Eve's community is just that squeaky clean.
It's the f-ing justice league all of a sudden, around here. "SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE." |
Caimeka
Handelskrieg Industries Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.29 04:01:00 -
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I too got my Law Degree off the back of a Cracker Jack Box |
SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.29 04:01:00 -
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I'm going to kill myself in protest of this post. |
Nick Bison
Bison Industrial Inc Thundering Herd
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Posted - 2012.03.29 04:01:00 -
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OK, I for one am not a goon fan as all my posts can attest to but,
FOR CHRIST'S SAKE ... LET IT GO!!!
Nothing clever at this time. |
Pillowtalk
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
99
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Posted - 2012.03.29 04:03:00 -
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Nick Bison wrote:OK, I for one am not a goon fan as all my posts can attest to but,
FOR CHRIST'S SAKE ... LET IT GO!!!
Would he let it go? |
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Miranda Joringer
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.03.29 04:03:00 -
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Common. He made a huge mistake, stepped down from the CSM, got banned for a month. Just let it go. CCP punished him and did the right thing. No need to blow any more out of proportion. |
Xander Riggs
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.29 04:04:00 -
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Pillowtalk wrote:Nick Bison wrote:OK, I for one am not a goon fan as all my posts can attest to but,
FOR CHRIST'S SAKE ... LET IT GO!!!
Would he let it go?
You can't put on the mantle of moral superiority by doing the same thing you claim he would do. "SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE." |
Demon Azrakel
Bite Me inc Exhale.
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Posted - 2012.03.29 04:04:00 -
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tl;dr: OP thinks he's a lawer. |
DrunkenOne
Unknown Soldiers GIANTSBANE.
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Posted - 2012.03.29 04:05:00 -
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I can't stand the guy but seriously a 30 day ban? Why bother should have been a perma. you have perma banned for way way less. Swastikas in local get perma ban, telling a guy to jump 30 days??? No backbone. What you think he is gonna make 10k ppl de sub? |
Aylleen
Die Hard Carebears
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Posted - 2012.03.29 04:07:00 -
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Sverige Pahis wrote:Thank you for the unneeded reminder that having google doesn't make you versed in a country's law
Oh really? My own country has the same laws. If Gianturco did that here I would personally arrest and bring him to a police station, an action that my country's CONSTITUTION condones.
Your comment just demonstrates the kind of person you really are. Please shut up, you are bringing shame on yourself. |
Ganthrithor
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.29 04:08:00 -
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Behead themittani 2012 |
Ganthrithor
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.29 04:08:00 -
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We found a witch! May we burn him? |
Aylleen
Die Hard Carebears
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Posted - 2012.03.29 04:09:00 -
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Miranda Joringer wrote:Common. He made a huge mistake, stepped down from the CSM, got banned for a month. Just let it go. CCP punished him and did the right thing. No need to blow it any more out of proportion.
Crime does not pay, you should know that. This is not a joke, he committed a crime, he should be in the police station right now explaining himself to the sheriff. |
Keen Fallsword
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.29 04:10:00 -
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Relax. Noobs.. Its over.. |
Ganthrithor
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
160
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Posted - 2012.03.29 04:11:00 -
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Send mittani to the Hague. |
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Kehro Urgus
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Posted - 2012.03.29 04:11:00 -
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DrunkenOne wrote:I can't stand the guy but seriously a 30 day ban? Why bother should have been a perma. you have perma banned for way way less. Swastikas in local get perma ban, telling a guy to jump 30 days??? No backbone. What you think he is gonna make 10k ppl de sub? Might have something to do with CCP also being at fault for not having the foresight to ensure the presentations did not contain inappropraite materials. CCP streamed the Fanfest, not Mittens. Just my two cents You know what you find in a sandbox? Sand and cat poo. |
Aylleen
Die Hard Carebears
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Posted - 2012.03.29 04:11:00 -
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Demon Azrakel wrote:tl;dr: OP thinks he's a lawer.
I'm just a girl - or a guy for that matter - that knows right from wrong. If you call lawyer someone who is championing justice, then I am a lawyer. |
RougeOperator
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
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Posted - 2012.03.29 04:11:00 -
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Miranda Joringer wrote:Common. He made a huge mistake, stepped down from the CSM, got banned for a month. Just let it go. CCP punished him and did the right thing. No need to blow it any more out of proportion.
http://soundcloud.com/cptunderpants/state-of-the-goonion-march
He didnt step down, he was removed
This is the real Alex. Hes a man child.
Space wizards are real, they can make 10058 votes vanish into thin air. |
Son IamaDerp
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.29 04:14:00 -
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Aylleen wrote:Nothing like alcohol to expose one's own true self.
It is just sad that a person trusted by the community to a position of leadership betrays that trust engaging in downright questionable - if not criminal - behavior.
I urge CCP to ban Alex Gianturco from EVE Online FOREVER. A 30-day ban? Really, CCP? A person engages in criminal behavior, and a 30-day ban is the punishment? Where is your moral compass, Hilmar? What if the victim was YOUR daughter? How would you answer that?
Argumentum ad Misercordiam
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Mass Attack
Lightspeed Ship Yards
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Posted - 2012.03.29 04:14:00 -
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OP makes a point. BEHOLD the power to search engines. Not just used to find your personal information and make fun of you anymore \o/ |
Miranda Joringer
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.03.29 04:15:00 -
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Aylleen wrote:Miranda Joringer wrote:Common. He made a huge mistake, stepped down from the CSM, got banned for a month. Just let it go. CCP punished him and did the right thing. No need to blow it any more out of proportion. Crime does not pay, you should know that. This is not a joke, he committed a crime, he should be in the police station right now explaining himself to the sheriff.
I was as disgusted about the stuff he said as you. Don't get me wrong about that, but i think that justice has been served. You may or may not agree on this. There is no need to go any further imo.
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Aylleen
Die Hard Carebears
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Posted - 2012.03.29 04:19:00 -
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Son IamaDerp wrote:Aylleen wrote:Nothing like alcohol to expose one's own true self.
It is just sad that a person trusted by the community to a position of leadership betrays that trust engaging in downright questionable - if not criminal - behavior.
I urge CCP to ban Alex Gianturco from EVE Online FOREVER. A 30-day ban? Really, CCP? A person engages in criminal behavior, and a 30-day ban is the punishment? Where is your moral compass, Hilmar? What if the victim was YOUR daughter? How would you answer that?
Argumentum ad Misercordiam
Hardly an appeal to pity! I am not trying to save him. "Do to others as you would have them do to you". That is the context I am referring to. |
Mass Attack
Lightspeed Ship Yards
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Posted - 2012.03.29 04:23:00 -
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If you really wanted to persue this line of logic just find out which state in the US he lives in and then check the laws. Most states have pretty strict laws in place already regarding this type of behavior and I'm sure an email or a hundred from some people will key them in that they should investigate. |
Xander Riggs
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.29 04:23:00 -
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Kehro Urgus wrote:DrunkenOne wrote:I can't stand the guy but seriously a 30 day ban? Why bother should have been a perma. you have perma banned for way way less. Swastikas in local get perma ban, telling a guy to jump 30 days??? No backbone. What you think he is gonna make 10k ppl de sub? Might have something to do with CCP also being at fault for not having the foresight to ensure the presentations did not contain inappropraite materials. CCP streamed the Fanfest, not Mittens. Just my two cents
They saw the slides beforehand AND provided the alcohol. "SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE." |
Aylleen
Die Hard Carebears
3
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Posted - 2012.03.29 04:23:00 -
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Miranda Joringer wrote:Aylleen wrote:Miranda Joringer wrote:Common. He made a huge mistake, stepped down from the CSM, got banned for a month. Just let it go. CCP punished him and did the right thing. No need to blow it any more out of proportion. Crime does not pay, you should know that. This is not a joke, he committed a crime, he should be in the police station right now explaining himself to the sheriff. I was as disgusted about the stuff he said as you. Don't get me wrong about that, but i think that justice has been served. You may or may not agree on this. There is no need to go any further imo.
It's not a "stuff"! It is a CRIME! A real one! Would you let it go if the person committed suicide?
Where is your sense of justice? your sense of basic decency?
CCP did not do the right thing. A 30-day ban is hardly a punishment. A real crime was committed, they should have notified the police immediately!
Good thing for Gianturco that I cannot read Icelandic, but I'm trying to find the General Prosecutor's contact, I will bring this to their attention. |
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