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Tobias Sjodin
Ore Mongers Black Hand.
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Posted - 2008.09.26 04:09:00 -
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With the increased risk of losing expensive implants in 0.0 (eg. to bubbles and or grid/fleet-lag), how many people in here use them there?
I can understand how people could use eg. +3-implants, or snake-implants, since in one case they're not very expensive and in the other your speed will likely take you out of any bubble (though the lag-issue still remains, I suppose).
And does anyone know if CCP will reimburse snake-implants if you died because of eg. lag from 200 jumping into local?
Black Hand.
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Planktal
Gallente Kenshao Industries The Star League
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Posted - 2008.09.26 04:12:00 -
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The simple answer to anything to do with lag, NO
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DigitalCommunist
Obsidian Core
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Posted - 2008.09.26 04:13:00 -
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Edited by: DigitalCommunist on 26/09/2008 04:13:23 Increased risk? Hasn't changed since fall 2006 when they introduced interdictors.
And I've been using +5's since they were made available.
edit: I should say I now use only two, whereas before Jump Clones I had all five plugged in. And they cost 700mil, not 100 :F
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FullBoat
Center For High Times
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Posted - 2008.09.26 04:34:00 -
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My main doesn't have any at the moment.. keep forgetting to pick them up. But, my alt has a set of +3's, and the mining foreman link. So far he hasn't' been podded, but he doesn't do much PvP.
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Neesa Corrinne
Noir. Trinity Nova Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.26 04:47:00 -
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CCP doesn't reimburse anything for any reason anymore. If you file a reimbursement petition you simply get a copy and paste response to the effect of "screw you, the lag doesn't exist. Keep paying us. Thanks"
Simple answer. Don't go to 0.0 with implants. Heck, don't go to 0.0 ever. If you want to PVP, just pick a large empire alliance and war dec them. At least then you always know which targets in local might be trying to kill you.
If you want to PVE, there's no better place than safely tucked away in lvl 4 empire missions.
0.0 is for people who like sitting in capital ships for hour after tear-wringing hour shooting at other people's POS's. What in the heck is fun about that?
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Kirra Liu
Echelon Holdings Echelon.
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Posted - 2008.09.26 04:54:00 -
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I have lost a few sets of +3's / +4's recently and as such only have +2 implants in my Jump Clone for 0.0. In 0.0 all it takes is 1 bubble and youre podded, so I allways reccomend treating your pod just like your ship, only fly with what you can afford to lose. I can afford to lose +4 implsnts but putting them at risk on a regular basis is counter-productive.
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Grath Telkin
Amarr The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.09.26 04:58:00 -
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Edited by: Grath Telkin on 26/09/2008 04:58:12
Originally by: Neesa Corrinne CCP doesn't reimburse anything for any reason anymore. If you file a reimbursement petition you simply get a copy and paste response to the effect of "screw you, the lag doesn't exist. Keep paying us. Thanks"
Simple answer. Don't go to 0.0 with implants. Heck, don't go to 0.0 ever. If you want to PVP, just pick a large empire alliance and war dec them. At least then you always know which targets in local might be trying to kill you.
If you want to PVE, there's no better place than safely tucked away in lvl 4 empire missions.
0.0 is for people who like sitting in capital ships for hour after tear-wringing hour shooting at other people's POS's. What in the heck is fun about that?
Wut?
Seriuosly?
Run implants man, its fine, the above guy here is clueless about being clueless. Slaves, Snakes, all that crap, feel free, just make sure that loosing them isn't going to bankrupt you, or that they aren't irreplaceable. +3's are pretty cheap, and easy to get back.
Also, remember that Neesa is bitter and clueless, thats the most important lesson to take away from this thread.
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AmmoniaisNH3
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Posted - 2008.09.26 04:59:00 -
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i have +3's and 3% Rogues and Zor
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Farrqua
Minmatar Turbo Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.09.26 05:13:00 -
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Two attribute imps for the skill you are learning. Switch it to a long skill and have fun. I mean they are pretty damn cheap for a couple of +4's now. It would not take too long to rat it up to replace them.
All the other hard wire implants are no different than fitting our ship.
What I could never understand is how someone can faction fit or rig the shit out of a ship, but think implants is a waste of money because he is afraid he will loose them while flying the same ship.
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Shardrael
Caldari Titan Industries Technology Team Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2008.09.26 05:19:00 -
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when I first got out to 0.0 one of my corp mates at the time made the point that lost isk could always be replaced but lost training time could not.
with that said considering how cheap +3's are it is foolish not to fly around with those in every clone. +4's even are not that bad.
pirate implants... well if you got the money go for it, but as has been said if you cant afford to lose em dont bother.
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.09.26 05:21:00 -
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Only with +3s. <3 my Jump Clones
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Artemis Rose
Varion Galactic Accord Corporate Enterprise Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.09.26 05:28:00 -
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I've always got either a pair of +4s or +5s in, set on really long skills if I'm worried about bubbles
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Malcanis
RuffRyders Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.09.26 05:53:00 -
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I've worn +4s since LP stores were introduced. Jump clones are the key - 1 clone with an PERC/WILL pair, 1 clone with a MEM/INT pair of +4s. As long as you don't get podded all that often, the losses are pretty tolerable, especially in the context of flying T2 ships anyway.
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murder one
Gallente Invincible Reason
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Posted - 2008.09.26 06:01:00 -
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I scoot around 0.0 in my HG Snake clone, but my HG Slave clone, not so much. Mostly because I'm in a BS with my slave clone, and BS don't do so well in the roaming department.
Quite a while ago a few of my buddies and I went roaming in 0.0 in a low sec style BS gang, with all of our cool stuff and implant clones. The gang (6-7 guys) was chased by two separate blobs of 60+ hostiles and I ended up jumping safespots for twenty minutes and then logging while being probed out by three Arazus. Not fun. I eventually got out safely with my ship and implants intact, but I probably had about 4b+ hanging out in the wind for a bit.
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Broegitte Bardot
BINFORD Solidus Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.26 06:44:00 -
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2x +5's "always" and i just go for one skill group at a time. then some 3%-hardwirings or mission-5'ers (like the mx-2)
it is the only way to "buy" SP, the most precious resource we have and the only thing that keeps me from actually doing what i want. not having picked caldari enhanced that ofc;sux to see +3 users have the same amount of SP as i do
anyways, if i end up webbed and bubbled, i throw in a (huge) level V. wing command it is right now....
otherwise i'd never have the nerve to even start those.
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Pan Crastus
Anti-Metagaming League
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Posted - 2008.09.26 06:48:00 -
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I make sure that I have alwas 2 +4's for the skill I'm training, it's not a big loss.
Also, I make sure that I switch to a long skill before heading to battle so that I don't need to buy new implants too soon if I get podded.
How to PVP: 1. buy ISK with GTCs, 2. fit cloak, learn aggro mechanics, 3. buy second account for metagaming
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RaTTuS
BIG Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2008.09.26 07:02:00 -
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implants are not are more at risk in 0.0 then low sec [well they are in a couple of places] however LAG is not a cause for reimbursement so don't even bother to petition over that
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.09.26 07:21:00 -
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my last visits to 0.0 have been with +4sets and a few 3% rouges and a zor's. although that was interceptor through not friendly space, and then raven in ratting system with pos. so it was all relatively safe, oh and did a 0.0 roam with my zealot and implants.
hmm, should consider doing cybernetics 5 and plugging a few +5s in, although probably wouldn't hit up 0.0 with em in.
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Irida Mershkov
Gallente War is Bliss
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Posted - 2008.09.26 07:26:00 -
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I used my implants when I was out in 0.0 for a little while, Only +3's because they're cheap though. I'd use +5's but I don't have Cybernetics V.
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Saietor Blackgreen
The First Foundation
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Posted - 2008.09.26 07:30:00 -
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Its the same as with ships - dont fly anything you cant afford to lose. Most people I know (and me) use +3 attributes implants and some moderately expensive hardwires.
I used to have an empty clone for fleet operations during north branch Stella-Insurgency wars - I was podded too often in bubblecamped gates, it was more efficient to selfdestruct and return with new ship.
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RedLion
Caldari Polaris Project Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.26 07:34:00 -
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Originally by: Tobias Sjodin With the increased risk of losing expensive implants in 0.0 (eg. to bubbles and or grid/fleet-lag), how many people in here use them there?
I can understand how people could use eg. +3-implants, or snake-implants, since in one case they're not very expensive and in the other your speed will likely take you out of any bubble (though the lag-issue still remains, I suppose).
And does anyone know if CCP will reimburse snake-implants if you died because of eg. lag from 200 jumping into local?
I use cheap implants mostly.
And CCP can reimburse destroyed items due to lag. Try escalating your ticket.
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NeoShocker
Caldari Foundation Sons of Tangra
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Posted - 2008.09.26 07:44:00 -
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Risk implants? I pvp with implants instead. :) If I die, I wait until skill is finished (implant effect still going unless you pause training) and get a new set. I used to pvp often with +4 implants, but now +3 implants with seige mindlink. :) -----------------------------------
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2008.09.26 08:28:00 -
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Infact, nowadays if you get podded and you think that training BS to lvl5 will work, thats bullshit because nowadays, after podding your skill timer is RECALCULATED.
"The Amarr are the tanking and ganking floating rods of goldcrap"
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Pan Crastus
Anti-Metagaming League
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Posted - 2008.09.26 09:21:00 -
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Originally by: Kuolematon Infact, nowadays if you get podded and you think that training BS to lvl5 will work, thats bullshit because nowadays, after podding your skill timer is RECALCULATED.
Since when?
How to PVP: 1. buy ISK with GTCs, 2. fit cloak, learn aggro mechanics, 3. buy second account for metagaming
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Pan Crastus
Anti-Metagaming League
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Posted - 2008.09.26 09:24:00 -
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Originally by: RaTTuS implants are not are more at risk in 0.0 then low sec [well they are in a couple of places] however LAG is not a cause for reimbursement so don't even bother to petition over that
Bubbles/Dictors/HICtor bubbles do not work in lowsec and if you get podded in lowsec you are:
- a noob who doesn't know how to save your pod (by selecting a celestial when the ship is about to explode and then hammering "warp")
- lagging terribly
- warping in small ships into smartbombing camps
All of these are not the common case nowdays in lowsec, so your statement is false.
How to PVP: 1. buy ISK with GTCs, 2. fit cloak, learn aggro mechanics, 3. buy second account for metagaming
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.09.26 09:28:00 -
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I usually go with +4s in empire and +2.3 in 0.0. Jump clones ftw.
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Riho
Gallente Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2008.09.26 09:31:00 -
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for the last 2 years iv never had below 500m in my head.
either snakes whit hardwires or +4s whit gunnery implants or something whit a mix.
i try to allways use 5% hardwires too.
only lost 2 pods in the last 1,5 years and both because of my own stupidity :P
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Saietor Blackgreen
The First Foundation
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Posted - 2008.09.26 09:36:00 -
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Originally by: Kuolematon Infact, nowadays if you get podded and you think that training BS to lvl5 will work, thats bullshit because nowadays, after podding your skill timer is RECALCULATED.
Proof?
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Rhak Amharr
Minmatar Genos Occidere deadspace society
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Posted - 2008.09.26 09:36:00 -
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Originally by: Pan Crastus Bubbles/Dictors/HICtor bubbles do not work in lowsec and if you get podded in lowsec you are:
- a noob who doesn't know how to save your pod (by selecting a celestial when the ship is about to explode and then hammering "warp")
- lagging terribly
- warping in small ships into smartbombing camps
All of these are not the common case nowdays in lowsec, so your statement is false.
- Travelling through highsec in a shuttle as an outlaw, with the urge to visit the toilet real quick, so that when you arrive in the destination system (a busy low sec system of course), you select a station, click dock, and go afk. Even Drakes can pod you then.
But then, I'd probably have ****ed in my pants if I waited any longer, I call this a fair trade.
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Riho
Gallente Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2008.09.26 09:36:00 -
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Originally by: Kuolematon Infact, nowadays if you get podded and you think that training BS to lvl5 will work, thats bullshit because nowadays, after podding your skill timer is RECALCULATED.
since when? ---------------------------------- Fighting for something Yes... this is my main. Extreme Troll Slayer...
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Volarius
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.09.26 09:38:00 -
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29 people.
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Khlitouris RegusII
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Posted - 2008.09.26 10:21:00 -
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implants are so cheap now that you'd be foolish not to have a set in your head and a set ready to replace them should you get podded.
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Leandro Salazar
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2008.09.26 11:10:00 -
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Except for the occasional self-farmed +1% or +3% fitting implant, I use no implants in 0.0 ever. Not so much because of the risk of losing them when podded in combat, but more because of the certainty of losing them when taking the clone express voluntarily, which someone as lazy as me does a lot. And if you are reading this, you have arrived at the signature without noticing...
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Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
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Posted - 2008.09.26 11:14:00 -
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Last 6months I never flew, in any shiptype from light dictor up to capital ships, with clones that had less than +4's and +3% implants.
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Hertford
Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.09.26 11:18:00 -
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Buying (attribute) implants is basically buying skillpoints. After plugging them in, you're at least guaranteed to finish your current skill at the accelerated rate; podding does not recalculate the finishing time.
The longer you get with the implants, the more skillpoints you get. But they're just like ships, don't buy them if you can't afford to lose them. |
Asantte
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Posted - 2008.09.26 11:21:00 -
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Originally by: Neesa Corrinne 0.0 is for people who like sitting in capital ships for hour after tear-wringing hour shooting at other people's POS's. What in the heck is fun about that?
cos then when they log off they get to flame each other on CAOD about it and you dont :P
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Asantte
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Posted - 2008.09.26 11:31:00 -
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this depends really on what you are doing in 0.0 if you are x'ing up every day then clearly it would be wasteful to wear a +5 set if you mostly sit there and carebear it up then +5 set is as good as in empire because really if you want to keep yourself safe in 0.0 you can go for 6+ months without getting podded a single time
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Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
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Posted - 2008.09.26 11:54:00 -
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Edited by: Misanth on 26/09/2008 11:55:29
Originally by: Asantte this depends really on what you are doing in 0.0 if you are x'ing up every day then clearly it would be wasteful to wear a +5 set if you mostly sit there and carebear it up then +5 set is as good as in empire because really if you want to keep yourself safe in 0.0 you can go for 6+ months without getting podded a single time
Or you x up frequent, but still don't lose clones that often. I used to fly without clones for years, thinking that I lived in 0.0 and would lose alot of isk this way. Then I looked back and checked my statistics. I havn't got an overly impressive amount of kills, but I do have a frequency and x'ing up both for attack as well as defence. I'm very seldom on top 10 kills/points per week but I am, as I said, stable.
Over time I noticed it averages a few months between each clone loss, then I compared that with my income and bought a set of +3's to PvP in. Eventually +4's dropped to the price they are today, i.e. not much at all over +3's, and 3% implants are cheap as well.. If you want to put it extreme; say you get 1 kill a day and you lose one ship every 2nd week. You won't lose your pod each time you lose a ship, so over time, say one clone a month. That sounds pretty close to my stats and seems perfectly natural for an active 0.0 pilot..
A full set of +4's and say some mix of 1-3%'s and you end up around 100mil per clone/implants. That means in a GTC period you get 30 kills, 2 ship losses, and a 100mil clone. I bet your ass that clone is less than the total loss in ships + modules/rigs. 100mil can easily be ratted in an evening if you live in 0.0, even if you don't loot at all and you use a HAC/BC or something smaller, 3-5 hours tops in pure bounties.
Now tell me it's not worth it? It's what someone else posted above; same as with ships, "can you afford to lose it". An non-hardcore 'normal' character that x up nearly daily should easily be able to. Then again, someone else might want to split those 100mil on 50mil extra fittings on the two ships you lost, but personally I prefer the 1-3% performance and the boosted skill training time. It should pay off more in the long run.
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Richard Angevian
The Crusaders.
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Posted - 2008.09.26 12:05:00 -
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I always have the relevant +4's installed for what I'm training. As for exotic implants, no. Out in 0.0, when your ship dies, and you are 40 jumps from home you WANT to get podded :)
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xttz
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.09.26 12:16:00 -
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I typically fly with +4's on all my characters and set a long skill before entering any pvp. Then if I do get podded, it gives me at least a week to go buy a new set.
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Neesa Corrinne
Noir. Trinity Nova Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.26 12:33:00 -
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Originally by: Grath Telkin Edited by: Grath Telkin on 26/09/2008 04:58:12Run implants man, its fine, the above guy here is clueless about being clueless. Slaves, Snakes, all that crap, feel free, just make sure that loosing them isn't going to bankrupt you, or that they aren't irreplaceable. +3's are pretty cheap, and easy to get back.
Also, remember that Neesa is bitter and clueless, thats the most important lesson to take away from this thread.
Actually I never have less than +4's and I fly around 0.0 all day long looking for stuff to kill.
I was simply mocking the attitude of the carebears in this game.
-1 for not picking up on sarcasm.
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Shardrael
Caldari Titan Industries Technology Team Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2008.09.26 13:06:00 -
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Originally by: Kuolematon Infact, nowadays if you get podded and you think that training BS to lvl5 will work, thats bullshit because nowadays, after podding your skill timer is RECALCULATED.
last time I checked this is just a visual bug and it is still training under the right timer, you can fix it by relogging.
unless this was changed in the last week or so I am 99.99% certain you are wrong on it being an actual recalculation as opposed to visual bug.
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Broegitte Bardot
BINFORD Solidus Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.26 17:54:00 -
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i died recently and "risked" testing that; the skill finished on imp-time after quite a few days. aka Roemy Schneider (probably lacking game time again) |
Soporo
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.09.26 19:06:00 -
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I used to make decent money bringing in and selling low end implants (+1 to +3's) in every 0.0 I've been in (north, east and south), so people use them obviously.
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Xtreem
Gallente Knockaround Guys Inc.
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Posted - 2008.09.26 19:10:00 -
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i always have 2 + 3's plugged into my 0.0 clones, in the areas that i am currently training, dont lose them that often and there pretty cheap for +3's
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Zeba
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.09.26 19:18:00 -
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Originally by: Khlitouris RegusII implants are so cheap now that you'd be foolish not to have a set in your head and a set ready to replace them should you get podded.
Heh. Something we agree on. Implants are so cheap nowadays with the lp store there is no real reason not to run around with lg sets and a 3% hardwiring set for good measure. If you lose em just plug the new set in or juggle the jump clone around too if you wish though tbh I use jump clones for alternet implant sets instead of some whimpy cop out cause im afraid to lose em.
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Xori Ruscuv
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.09.26 19:29:00 -
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+3s relevant to the skills I'm training (usually gunnery or spaceship command ). And a -3% turret CPU implant.
PVPing does not a rich player make. I'm not sure how these guys running about in 4s and 5s and pirate sets in 0.0 pay for them
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Farrqua
Minmatar Turbo Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.09.26 19:51:00 -
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Originally by: Xori Ruscuv +3s relevant to the skills I'm training (usually gunnery or spaceship command ). And a -3% turret CPU implant.
PVPing does not a rich player make. I'm not sure how these guys running about in 4s and 5s and pirate sets in 0.0 pay for them
Mission pimping in Empire.
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2008.09.27 00:15:00 -
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All implants all the time, I never go anywhere without them, I'm hooked.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Gimpb
Sturmgrenadier Inc Cosmic Anomalies
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Posted - 2008.09.27 01:15:00 -
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Well, +1 implants are so darn cheap you might as well use those at a minimum. The real question is what level of implants to use. Personally I get nicer ones for my upcoming longer trains and if I think I'm going to get podded or I'm going into a lag fest, switch to said long train.
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Jinx Barker
GFB Scientific
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Posted - 2008.09.27 01:48:00 -
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On many occasions when I lived in 0.0 I would go in with a full set of High Grade snakes.
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Zeba
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.09.27 02:51:00 -
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Originally by: Jinx Barker On many occasions when I lived in 0.0 I would go in with a full set of High Grade snakes.
One might say that pre-nano nerf hg snakes are a requirement along with a mwd on *insert ship here* in null sec.
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MaidMarion
Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2008.09.27 05:06:00 -
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I been away from 0.0 for awhile but I keep +3s in most of the 0.0 clones (never in the suicide clone) If i ever get around to training for CS mindlinks I'll be sure to have one clone for each CS.
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ShadowMaiden
Amarr Metal Machine
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Posted - 2008.09.27 09:33:00 -
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Originally by: Asantte
Originally by: Neesa Corrinne 0.0 is for people who like sitting in capital ships for hour after tear-wringing hour shooting at other people's POS's. What in the heck is fun about that?
cos then when they log off they get to flame each other on CAOD about it and you dont :P
Damn you, just sprayed coffee on my laptop! (still giggling....)
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Fictional Hero
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Posted - 2008.09.27 10:34:00 -
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Originally by: Neesa Corrinne CCP doesn't reimburse anything for any reason anymore. If you file a reimbursement petition you simply get a copy and paste response to the effect of "screw you, the lag doesn't exist. Keep paying us. Thanks"
FTW!
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Chr0nosX
Ore Mongers Black Hand.
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Posted - 2008.09.27 10:52:00 -
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+3s will probably go for +4s next time as they are so cheap now.
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Ecatherina W
Gallente Dromedary Goat Albatross and Fish Big Bang Quantum
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Posted - 2008.09.27 11:48:00 -
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+4, full set - always for normal 0.0 usage +3, full set - for gangs that are advertized as suicidal in nature. +5s in Empire carebear clone for looooong term skills.
Naked? Only when I suicide my pod to a different location.
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DGAF Newbie Guide
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Laechyd Eldgorn
Caldari Karjala Inc.
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Posted - 2008.09.27 11:56:00 -
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Originally by: Kuolematon Infact, nowadays if you get podded and you think that training BS to lvl5 will work, thats bullshit because nowadays, after podding your skill timer is RECALCULATED.
Doesn't seem like that.
Anyway. You need only 2 implants for each skill, so just get 2x+3 or 2x+4 and you're set to go. And not that expensive from lp store. Even few cheap hardwiring implants can't hurt.
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ArmyOfMe
Pernicious Creed Vendetta Alliance.
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Posted - 2008.09.27 12:08:00 -
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i usally use +4's or +5's in 0,0
Originally by: deadmaus
Because by the time we had calmed Plague down after he heard BoB were back in the vicinity it was too late to do anything |
Savesti Kyrsst
Minmatar Invicta.
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Posted - 2008.09.27 12:12:00 -
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It's been a while since I've been in 0.0 for any length of time, but usually I plug in two +4s for the skillset I'm training. _
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Krxon Blade
Apogee Group
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Posted - 2008.09.27 14:58:00 -
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Yes - in jump clones: 3% speed modifiers + 2 x +4s - depends on which skill I'm currently training. For example, for training ship skill I'm using jumpclone with perception and willpower +4s So even if podkilled only 3 implants are lost without much sacrifice to learn speed. If I want to train leadership skill Im just switch to jumpclone with proper +4s.
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Cassius Longinus
Darkwave Technologies Pure.
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Posted - 2008.09.27 15:18:00 -
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The only time I don't fly with a full set + rogues is when I'm piloting a dictor. I tend to keep 1 JC around naked just for that. Fleet work in a dictor is almost always a one way trip. |
Rebnok
Collateral Impact
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Posted - 2008.09.27 16:24:00 -
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Edited by: Rebnok on 27/09/2008 16:25:48 i always use da implants, like said before you can buy new ones but ya cant buy sp, though i dont use my hi grade crystals in 0.0
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FT Diomedes
Gallente Ductus Exemplo
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Posted - 2008.09.27 17:01:00 -
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I always PvP with a pair of +4s in my head. ------------
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Atomos Darksun
Infortunatus Eventus Obsidian Empire
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Posted - 2008.09.27 17:42:00 -
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I always run with a full rack of +4's, PG implant (stupid deimos setup needs a +3 or AWU 5), and rogue set.
Originally by: Amoxin My vent is talking to me in a devil voice...
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BiggestT
Caldari Space Oddysey Pupule 'Ohana
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Posted - 2008.09.27 17:44:00 -
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+3's for pvp +4's for empire jc
Im cheap x)
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Kerfira
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Posted - 2008.09.27 20:50:00 -
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+3/4 depending on what I'm training. If I'm training a long skill, I pop in +4's since I can just leave the skill training.
Implants aren't that expensive anyway....
Originally by: CCP Wrangler EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.
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Avitar
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.09.27 21:17:00 -
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Best thing to do, is to plug in a bunch of +5's, Never do anything apart from mission run in Empire..
Then you end up with an AWESOME pvp character that NEVER gets used..
Sounds good to me
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Khraunus
Amarr Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2008.09.27 21:24:00 -
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I'm currently touring New Eden in a cov ops with a full set of +4's.
Am I worried? Yeah right
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annoing
Amarr MisFunk Inc. Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.09.27 21:26:00 -
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me ... I use full sets of 4's + hardwires depending on the task at hand .. if its fighting then its my laser guns hardwires with armour %'s or if its scanning a full set of those ... makes life easier and saves time.
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