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Staife
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Posted - 2008.09.27 11:43:00 -
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People have been telling each other to post with one's main ever since alts were invented which i think was right at the moment that EVE came to life. And for all this time I have never been one of these people. I do not care who posts with what and frankly find it hard to understand why do you care? So enlighten me:
Do you do it because you seriously sit there, track and remember which main has posted what? For those of you who say reputation, if I, a random player post this with a day old alt, do you really care so much about what the reputation on my 0.0 main is? If you take a break from EVE will you even remember who posted what with their main? Is it possible to have more than 1 mains? If yes, then which one should i use to post with?
For me, what has been said has always been the most important part of discussion on these forums, not who has said it and what corp/alliance he or she belongs to. In light that characters can be so easily bought and sold and that whoever has any reason to metagame is already doing so with 2+ accounts stuffed with different characters, I simply see the "post as your main" statements as futile attempts to strike one's own epeen with some kind of misguided motions. Prove me wrong pls.
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Einar Goaler
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.09.27 12:00:00 -
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Haha,
Yes I agree, it seems to be more of an adversarial thing mostly. The people who complain about alt posting usually have been slighted in some fashion (e-honor and all that). Except these same folks (who complain about alt posting) often have an alt spy in your corp!
lol
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Savesti Kyrsst
Minmatar Invicta.
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Posted - 2008.09.27 12:06:00 -
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The idea is that it reduces terrible posts. I'm not quite sure that this is possible. _
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Rhatar Khurin
Minmatar Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2008.09.27 13:52:00 -
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People who post with alts are generally trolls who merely make stupid statements and behave like arsehats.
There is no reason except maybe cowardice to not post with your main (or at least a vaguely developed character).
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.09.27 14:05:00 -
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- Posting with your main should encourage better posting (theoretically).
- People who choose to post with an alt obviously have a reason to do so - equally good a reason to want them to post with their main instead.
- Perhaps we should just allow anonymous posting and be done with it.
- Perhaps we should enforce anonymous posting. -
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Joe
Umbra Legion Shadow Empire.
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Posted - 2008.09.27 14:07:00 -
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The Easiest way to ignore a valid piont posted by someone that wants to remain annonamous is to say 'post with your main'
The second easiest way to ignore a valid piont posted by someone, is to reference their corp, eg 'oh your xxx Corp/alliance, wtf would you know'
Umbra Recruitment
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DenigmA
Gallente Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.09.27 14:11:00 -
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Before I read your cr..p about posting with alts and main.
Its simple
People posting in alts, or "alt corps" or any toon other than there main is out to start sh.t. If you don't have the b.lls to post with your main then you should not be posting at all. Why hide behind someone else. Not man enough to take what your dishing out? That's what it all come down to, people not able to take what they dish out. So they hide behind there alt corps and there alts.
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Joe
Umbra Legion Shadow Empire.
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Posted - 2008.09.27 14:18:00 -
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Jeese Denigma, Oberon pilots used to be alot more polite when I flew with them
But i suppose criticism of your posting was best done with my main yah
Umbra Recruitment
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Zarthanon
S.A.S
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Posted - 2008.09.27 14:21:00 -
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Originally by: Staife People have been telling each other to post with one's main ever since alts were invented which i think was right at the moment that EVE came to life. And for all this time I have never been one of these people. I do not care who posts with what and frankly find it hard to understand why do you care? So enlighten me:
Do you do it because you seriously sit there, track and remember which main has posted what? For those of you who say reputation, if I, a random player post this with a day old alt, do you really care so much about what the reputation on my 0.0 main is? If you take a break from EVE will you even remember who posted what with their main? Is it possible to have more than 1 mains? If yes, then which one should i use to post with?
For me, what has been said has always been the most important part of discussion on these forums, not who has said it and what corp/alliance he or she belongs to. In light that characters can be so easily bought and sold and that whoever has any reason to metagame is already doing so with 2+ accounts stuffed with different characters, I simply see the "post as your main" statements as futile attempts to strike one's own epeen with some kind of misguided motions. Prove me wrong pls.
Post with your alt!
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Aesgrim
Big Shadows Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.27 15:30:00 -
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Just enforce that the character with the most skill points, per account, can post.
Wanna post something that cannot be tracked to your main? Pay for another account or spend some isk for a GTC.
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Matrix Skye
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.09.27 15:49:00 -
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Edited by: Matrix Skye on 27/09/2008 15:51:31 i post with my alt cus im a e-coward and have no e-honor. OTOH if you post with your main you have e-honor and you get all the e-girls. life as an alt sucks e-balls!
did i mention i have no e-balls?
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Baldour Ngarr
Interwarp Plexus Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2008.09.27 15:52:00 -
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Edited by: Baldour Ngarr on 27/09/2008 15:53:35
Originally by: DenigmA That's what it all come down to, people not able to take what they dish out.
The content of post is either good or bad. Who posted it has no bearing whatsoever on that fact. Answer the post, not the poster.
The one place this doesn't apply is in roleplaying/COAD-type boards. Random anonymous person announcing that the Fred alliance are evil pirates who kill bunnies, is nothing but trolling. A Fred alliance member announcing it, and revoking his membership with that as his reason, is believable. ________________________________________________
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Korizan
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Posted - 2008.09.27 15:56:00 -
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I Agree that posting with your main should theoretically mean a better post. BUT There are a lot of posts that get derailed just because a main was used and that persons affiliation was not liked by others.
So by allowing someone to use a different character then sometimes game politics do not get involved and you actually have a productive thread.
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Savesti Kyrsst
Minmatar Invicta.
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Posted - 2008.09.27 16:51:00 -
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Most posts that are mocked because of the poster's corp/alliance are transparently biased and usually nonsensical. The same post made by an alt would usually be equally mocked.
A well-written, well thought out post is almost always responded to in kind. _
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Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
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Posted - 2008.09.27 17:16:00 -
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..the problem is, after a certain amount of accounts, you tend to forget which one that used to be the main.
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Josef Odinssen
Caldari Caldari Imperial Empire Navy
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Posted - 2008.09.27 17:18:00 -
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i think if you are going to post politically, then you should do so with the intention of accepting the consequences of your views, you would not expect to go on the evening news and say XYZ corp is a bunch of arsehats and be able to wear a paperbag on your head and have a disguised voice. If you set out to be political then you should carry it through into space, so people can both respond in kind and anger your opinions.
After all the door swings both ways, a thoughtful post about a subject may win you as many allies as it does foes, but alt posting to be sensational is tantamount to trolling unless they are an active alt and making statement based on something you would actually play through for them in space. everything should have a consquence, i dont think you should be able to sleight someone without them being able to seek honour on the battlefield.
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Tellenta
Gallente Invicta.
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Posted - 2008.09.27 17:19:00 -
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Originally by: Savesti Kyrsst Edited by: Savesti Kyrsst on 27/09/2008 12:06:44 The idea is that it reduces the number of terrible posts. I'm not quite sure that this is possible.
You are quite right my posts are terrible, and I post with my main. Definitely would not be a quality assurance technique.
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.09.27 17:21:00 -
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Originally by: Tellenta
Originally by: Savesti Kyrsst Edited by: Savesti Kyrsst on 27/09/2008 12:06:44 The idea is that it reduces the number of terrible posts. I'm not quite sure that this is possible.
You are quite right my posts are terrible, and I post with my main. Definitely would not be a quality assurance technique.
This post is a paradox. -
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Vabjekf
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Posted - 2008.09.27 17:21:00 -
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I find that in general, on the Internets, I post WORSE when people know who I am because I feel that I have a reputation to uphold.
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Tellenta
Gallente Invicta.
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Posted - 2008.09.27 17:26:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn
Originally by: Tellenta
Originally by: Savesti Kyrsst Edited by: Savesti Kyrsst on 27/09/2008 12:06:44 The idea is that it reduces the number of terrible posts. I'm not quite sure that this is possible.
You are quite right my posts are terrible, and I post with my main. Definitely would not be a quality assurance technique.
This post is a paradox.
See, I'm horrible
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Siberys
Gallente Nebula Sharks
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Posted - 2008.09.27 17:29:00 -
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Originally by: Joe
The second easiest way to ignore a valid piont posted by someone, is to reference their corp, eg 'oh your xxx Corp/alliance, wtf would you know'
Example: 'Oh you're in goonswarm, you're stupid.'
Note: This is actually my main, and I'm just stating a stereotype. Please don't wardec my 2 man corp GS.
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Jacob Mei
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Posted - 2008.09.27 17:35:00 -
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I typically post with an alt for the simple reason that I like my privacy and know that the forums can be used as a intelligence tool.
By posting with an alt you are allowed to cut the crap and get to the point without worry of reprocussions. I may ask for help in regards to a loadout for say a Mach battleship. Well now several bits of information naturally go out and into the public view with that post.
1. My name 2. Weither I have a mach or can fly a mach 3. The loadout that I am interested in may help someone gauge how well I can defend that ship.
Now, a cleaver individual would take my name and use a locator agent to find where I was, where my mach may be. By knowing the loadout ive posted they could build their own loadout to take me out.
By posting with an alt I just reveal the information that im interested in and anyone trying to track me down might be sent to a 0.1 system crawling with pirates willing to take them out.
Ultimately though it boils down to this:
I can. -------------------------------- To borrow a phrase:
Players who post are like stars, there are bright ones and those who are dim.
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Zeba
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.09.27 18:32:00 -
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Originally by: DenigmA Before I read your cr..p about posting with alts and main.
Its simple
People posting in alts, or "alt corps" or any toon other than there main is out to start sh.t. If you don't have the b.lls to post with your main then you should not be posting at all. Why hide behind someone else. Not man enough to take what your dishing out? That's what it all come down to, people not able to take what they dish out. So they hide behind there alt corps and there alts.
But what if all my characters are in the npc corp? Are any of them considered my main or am I all alts? I'm so confused.
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Staife
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Posted - 2008.09.27 19:46:00 -
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Edited by: Staife on 27/09/2008 19:46:18
Originally by: Rhatar Khurin People who post with alts are generally trolls who merely make stupid statements and behave like arsehats.
There is no reason except maybe cowardice to not post with your main (or at least a vaguely developed character).
Yes it takes true bravery to flame people over the internet and at the same time expose who your character is in a virtual spaceship game.
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Staife
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Posted - 2008.09.27 19:50:00 -
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Originally by: Savesti Kyrsst The idea is that it reduces the number of terrible posts. I'm not quite sure that this is possible.
Originally by: Crumplecorn - Posting with your main should encourage better posting (theoretically).
Originally by: Korizan I Agree that posting with your main should theoretically mean a better post.
Originally by: DenigmA Before I read your cr..p about posting with alts and main.
Its simple
People posting in alts, or "alt corps" or any toon other than there main is out to start sh.t. If you don't have the b.lls to post with your main then you should not be posting at all. Why hide behind someone else. Not man enough to take what your dishing out? That's what it all come down to, people not able to take what they dish out. So they hide behind there alt corps and there alts.
yes, very very theoretically ... i'd say this theory almost borders an urban myth
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Wet Ferret
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Posted - 2008.09.27 19:57:00 -
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The forum metagamers in EVE disgust me. I post on an alt to avoid being wardecced or hunted down because some mouthbreathing basement dweller disagreed with me on something I posted in the forum, was on PMS, or just decided "hey let's go shit on some random forum pubbie today for the hell of it". Paranoid, maybe... but one of the first things I learned in EVE was to never trust anybody.
The only time it matters who you're posting with is when you're claiming to be someone who isn't the character you're posting with, or claiming to be involved with an organization that your alt isn't a part of and using said claim to backup your argument or standpoint.
I've been using this character to post for several years, though. If anyone really wanted to know who my main was I'd tell them, but nobody has ever asked (big surprise) and if you could ever dig up a post I've made where "who my main is" was even somewhat relevant, I'd be impressed.
So, anyway, I agree. What is being said is more important than who's saying it. Though it's nice to know when I'm talking to someone I've talked to before, even if it was only their forum presence. But, yeah. These forums seriously need some indicator that the post has ended and the sig has started.
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Vabjekf
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Posted - 2008.09.27 20:00:00 -
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Can someone tell me where the term mouthbreather originated and why it has become an insult?
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Jacob Mei
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Posted - 2008.09.27 22:41:00 -
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Originally by: Vabjekf Can someone tell me where the term mouthbreather originated and why it has become an insult?
I would imagine it either darth vader is the originator of the insult or its just another sterotype based of the classic "nerd" appearance.
I mean get the mental image of someone who cant breath threw their nose (either due to sickness or habit) and throw in a pasty complection and so forth and there you go. -------------------------------- To borrow a phrase:
Players who post are like stars, there are bright ones and those who are dim.
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Kristina Trepkas
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Posted - 2008.09.28 12:00:00 -
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Post with your main - a sad, tired, worn out retort used by the teary butthurt after they have been inlsulted in a computer game. Basically, they go all crybaby because they can't dec a NPC sockpuppet to help them get over their hurt feelings - IN A COMPUTER GAME.
The irony is, people who use this phrase think they are being really clever, when in fact, all it does is show how much the alt has gotten to them - IN A COMPUTER GAME.
also, in b4 post with your main.
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Juckie Moonshines
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Posted - 2008.09.28 12:33:00 -
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Originally by: Rhatar Khurin People who post with alts are generally trolls who merely make stupid statements and behave like arsehats.
There is no reason except maybe cowardice to not post with your main (or at least a vaguely developed character).
This is complete non-sense!!!
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