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Abim Starkiller
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.03.30 04:32:00 -
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so ive tested its
it. My level 4 mission runnner with noctis support (bountys + selling salvage and loot in jita) - makes 45% more isk per hour than my hulk with orca support (perfect mining an refining skills selling minerals in jita).
Is this working as intended? |
Tah'ris Khlador
Space Ghosts. Cold Hand of Shadow
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Posted - 2012.03.30 04:50:00 -
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C&P is the perfect place for this thread. |
Abim Starkiller
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.03.30 05:01:00 -
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Tah'ris Khlador wrote:C&P is the perfect place for this thread.
woops my bad. how did i get here :P
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Menardii
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.03.30 06:50:00 -
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If mining/mission running makes you want to stab your eyes out, then yes. Working as intended. Red Federation
We own the Night |
Nathan Jameson
Talocan Dominion Talocan United
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Posted - 2012.03.30 07:42:00 -
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Confirming this is news. |
Tikera Tissant
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Posted - 2012.03.30 11:00:00 -
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Abim Starkiller wrote: Is this working as intended?
Yes. Mining you don't have to do abso-freakin-lotly anything to make money except target a few harmless poor asteroids who can't fight back at all. On missions you actually have to play. See the difference? (afk drone missioning does not pay very well).
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BuzzyBeagle
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2012.03.30 15:15:00 -
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confirming both mining and missioning is a crime and punishment should be death.
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Zaltone
Lokresh Industries
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Posted - 2012.03.30 16:18:00 -
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BuzzyBeagle wrote:confirming both mining and missioning is a crime and punishment should be death.
What if your mining hulks with your blasters and mean its not the same minerals per hour but it would seem more fun The Dominix is always, the answer the question doesnt matter!!!!!
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Mortis vonShadow
Balanaz Mining and Development Inc.
502
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Posted - 2012.03.30 17:35:00 -
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BuzzyBeagle wrote:confirming both mining and missioning is a crime and punishment should be death.
You're a dumbass. Some days you're the bug, and some days your the windscreen. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á And some days, you're just a man with a gun. |
Mortis vonShadow
Balanaz Mining and Development Inc.
502
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Posted - 2012.03.30 17:35:00 -
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Tikera Tissant wrote:Abim Starkiller wrote: Is this working as intended?
Yes. Mining you don't have to do abso-freakin-lotly anything to make money except target a few harmless poor asteroids who can't fight back at all. On missions you actually have to play. See the difference? (afk drone missioning does not pay very well).
And you're a dumbass, too. Some days you're the bug, and some days your the windscreen. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á And some days, you're just a man with a gun. |
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Tah'ris Khlador
Space Ghosts. Cold Hand of Shadow
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Posted - 2012.03.30 17:49:00 -
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Mortis vonShadow wrote: And you're a dumbass, too.
I find your clarification of their points intriguing and mind boggling. It's just so well articulated. Please provide more detail on your position so we can understand it further. |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
2009
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Posted - 2012.03.30 20:25:00 -
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My self stacking job pays -ú6.13 an hour while my position as Creative Director has a annual salary of -ú140k with benefits. Someone should fix this. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
StonerPhReaK
Nasgul Collective Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2012.03.30 21:21:00 -
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You spelled Roidkiller wrong. |
Katja Faith
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.03.30 21:42:00 -
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Does nobody understand "risk vs reward" anymore!??!?!! |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.30 22:20:00 -
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Katja Faith wrote:Does nobody understand "risk vs reward" anymore!??!?!! Highsec incursions are perfectly balanced because your logi can mess up or you might get ganked.
Rite? o7o7
Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2012.03.31 00:07:00 -
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Though this is true it's also the reason Soundwave stated in a recent interview that missions are getting a nerf - either loot or mission reward .. so expect it in the future. [IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/DawnFrostbringer/OldST.jpg[/IMG] |
Ronja Mistysdottir
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.31 00:11:00 -
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Abim Starkiller wrote:so ive tested its
it. My level 4 mission runnner with noctis support (bountys + selling salvage and loot in jita) - makes 45% more isk per hour than my hulk with orca support (perfect mining an refining skills selling minerals in jita).
just to be clear i run level 4 security mission with caldari navy / corp police force. In a max out tengu (little i could do to improve it) I fly a maxed hulk with T2 mining drones, with a orca that has max boosters and the 3 minning links. (nothing i could do to improve it)
Is this working as intended?
What you make on level 4 running / hour What you make on mining? |
Flurk Hellbron
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.31 01:09:00 -
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Shouldn't it be: How many do you destroy/kill in an hour? |
Abim Starkiller
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.03.31 02:17:00 -
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Katja Faith wrote:Does nobody understand "risk vs reward" anymore!??!?!!
this is my point.. you have more chance of being ganked while in a hulk, than losing a ship in a level 4.. who the hell gets killed in a level 4 no one. |
Astroniomix
EliteTroll
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Posted - 2012.03.31 03:45:00 -
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Abim Starkiller wrote:Katja Faith wrote:Does nobody understand "risk vs reward" anymore!??!?!! who the hell gets killed in a level 4 no one. You must be new here. |
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Abim Starkiller
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2012.03.31 07:52:00 -
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Astroniomix wrote:Abim Starkiller wrote:Katja Faith wrote:Does nobody understand "risk vs reward" anymore!??!?!! who the hell gets killed in a level 4 no one. You must be new here.
I think it is you who are new here sir. You are implying that allot of ships are lost in level 4s, this is not the case perhaps new mission runners lose a few ships each but they soon learn how to fit their ships to perma tank all missions.
Or are you implying that you are some big bad merc that probes war decks in level 4s. Again just as a idiot is the only one who can die to level 4 rats only a idiot missions while at war without watching local, A hulk on the other hand can be ganked at any time any where in any belt.
If we had the numbers of ships lost while mining vrs the ships lost in level 4s im sure it would blow your mind. |
StonerPhReaK
Nasgul Collective Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2012.03.31 15:07:00 -
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Abim Starkiller wrote:Astroniomix wrote:Abim Starkiller wrote:Katja Faith wrote:Does nobody understand "risk vs reward" anymore!??!?!! who the hell gets killed in a level 4 no one. You must be new here. I think it is you who are new here sir. You are implying that allot of ships are lost in level 4s, this is not the case perhaps new mission runners lose a few ships each but they soon learn how to fit their ships to perma tank all missions. Or are you implying that you are some big bad merc that probes war decks in level 4s. Again just as a idiot is the only one who can die to level 4 rats only a idiot missions while at war without watching local, A hulk on the other hand can be ganked at any time any where in any belt. If we had the numbers of ships lost while mining vrs the ships lost in level 4s im sure it would blow your mind.
And the same can be said for miners. They lose a few ships initially then they learn to tank or find a quiet system. Its there own fault for gettin ganked over and over. There are more systems than the one you want to mine in. So mission runners are slightly smarter and quicker to tank/move there base of operations. Whats the comparison? Also. You spelled roidkiller wrong. |
Mortis vonShadow
Balanaz Mining and Development Inc.
503
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Posted - 2012.03.31 16:23:00 -
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Tah'ris Khlador wrote:Mortis vonShadow wrote: And you're a dumbass, too.
I find your clarification of their points intriguing and mind boggling. It's just so well articulated. Please provide more detail on your position so we can understand it further.
Okay, you want clarification. Here ya go.
Eve Online is a game where people can escape their real lives and become anything or anyone they like. Either a pirate, an explorer, an industrialist, a miner, a corporate stooge, a spy, a traitor, a jack of all trades as it were, etc etc... you get the idea.
As someone that has been a pirate, a mission runner (agreeing here they are dull as hell), and having just finished running my own solo mining corporation (three accounts), it never ceases to amaze me that there are still players in this game that derive some pleasure from generalizing others down to a lower life form. I mine so therefor I must be a low life. I pirate so therefor I must be a degenerate. I run missions so therefor I must be too afraid of the realities of EVE.
When in truth, I log on after working my ass off at a real life job, as do most everyone on here, and I try and become Mortis vonShadow, Capsuleer for the Khanid Kingdom. I care not if you are an agressive type or a meek type, as long as you don't screw with me or the Khanid Kingdom, we're all good.
But others don't see it that way, and yet, somehow I get the impression they do, and at some point they allow themselves to be enticed into generalizing others down, as previously stated. Is it fair? No. Is it the realities of life, yes. But, if we tell ourselves that because we play EVE Online that somehow we are better than other gamers, because of how complicated EVE is and that we've come to survive it's realities, then allowing ourselves to be enticed to become something that we aren't in reality, well then are we truelly better than other gamers? Probably not.
Before you go and flame me for my opinions lemme give you a little background history of who I am in real life. I'm a 45 yr old male that has been married for 18yrs with two kids. I served six years in the US Marine Corps and am disabled because of it. I don't let things like being disabled slow me down. I have had two other successful businesses that I sold off to now start a restaurant, something I've always wanted to do.
Are my opinions slanted? Probably. But, the last thing I've ever learned to do was degenerate myself down to labelling and name calling. It does nothing but makes you look like a dumbass. Hence why you will see my respond to peoples post as Dumbasses. Ironic that I, too, allow myself to spiral down the rabbit hole and label others, don't you think? This is why I love EVE. She is an exciting and horrifing misteress all at the same time.
Hope this is what you were looking for.
Flame away. Some days you're the bug, and some days your the windscreen. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á And some days, you're just a man with a gun. |
Abim Starkiller
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2012.03.31 18:33:00 -
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StonerPhReaK wrote:Abim Starkiller wrote:Astroniomix wrote:Abim Starkiller wrote:Katja Faith wrote:Does nobody understand "risk vs reward" anymore!??!?!! who the hell gets killed in a level 4 no one. You must be new here. I think it is you who are new here sir. You are implying that allot of ships are lost in level 4s, this is not the case perhaps new mission runners lose a few ships each but they soon learn how to fit their ships to perma tank all missions. Or are you implying that you are some big bad merc that probes war decks in level 4s. Again just as a idiot is the only one who can die to level 4 rats only a idiot missions while at war without watching local, A hulk on the other hand can be ganked at any time any where in any belt. If we had the numbers of ships lost while mining vrs the ships lost in level 4s im sure it would blow your mind. And the same can be said for miners. They lose a few ships initially then they learn to tank or find a quiet system. Its there own fault for gettin ganked over and over. There are more systems than the one you want to mine in. So mission runners are slightly smarter and quicker to tank/move there base of operations. Whats the comparison? Also. You spelled roidkiller wrong.
To a point yes however, If some one wants to gank a hulk... they WILL gank a hulk, having player's searching belts with a small gank of destroyers or a BS is not somthing you can defend against.
Yeah i could put trimark rigs and armour in the low slots but that would reduce my incame down to level 2 mission amounts.
Mission runners's worry about npc's with really bad AI that they can perma tank against, I can go afk in a full level 4 with my reppers or booster going for hours witch and be fine = no risk.
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StonerPhReaK
Nasgul Collective Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2012.04.02 13:05:00 -
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Abim Starkiller wrote:
To a point yes however, If some one wants to gank a hulk... they WILL gank a hulk, having player's searching belts with a small gank of destroyers or a BS is not somthing you can defend against.
Yeah i could put trimark rigs and armour in the low slots but that would reduce my incame down to level 2 mission amounts.
Mission runners's worry about npc's with really bad AI that they can perma tank against, I can go afk in a full level 4 with my reppers or booster going for hours witch and be fine = no risk.
You can also go afk in a quiet system belt for hours and mine. its the same thing. Jus one player is shooting npc's and the other is shooting rocks. I think both professions are super boring and need to be spiced up a bit to make them fun to do ,And though ninja's and gankbears do spice it up a bit and make the tasks interesting its being overdone as of late and something needs to change.
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Rastuasi
Crunchy Crunchy Peregrine Nation
3
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Posted - 2012.04.11 14:26:00 -
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Missioners get ganked all the time by players, just like hulks in a belt. So it's pure risk to just undock from station...it's the only riskless area of eve. |
Vangelios
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.04.11 16:00:00 -
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Mortis vonShadow wrote: ... Are my opinions slanted? Probably. But, the last thing I've ever learned to do was degenerate myself down to labelling and name calling. It does nothing but makes you look like a dumbass. Hence why you will see my respond to peoples post as Dumbasses. Ironic that I, too, allow myself to spiral down the rabbit hole and label others, don't you think? This is why I love EVE. She is an exciting and horrifing misteress all at the same time.
Sir, I love your attitude, also it always make me smile when you call someone Dumbass. :) ...-áEach small candle Lights a corner of the dark... |
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