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Miya Okolia	Posted - 2008.10.07 00:15:00 - [1] Now is a good time to buy, trust me.
Miya Okolia	Posted - 2008.10.07 00:15:00 - [2] Now is a good time to buy, trust me. hi
Kahega Amielden Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2008.10.07 00:18:00 - [3] This guy seems legit.
Kahega Amielden Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2008.10.07 00:18:00 - [4] This guy seems legit. Originally by: Catharacta My CNR runs on salvager tears.
Miya Okolia	Posted - 2008.10.07 00:19:00 - [5] just watch what happens in a few days
Miya Okolia	Posted - 2008.10.07 00:19:00 - [6] just watch what happens in a few days hi
Ficti0n Heavens Gate Consortium	Posted - 2008.10.07 00:32:00 - [7] I can't see why they would? Although I've not really paid attention to that market and the factors that could effect it.
c4 t Directive Enterprises	Posted - 2008.10.07 00:37:00 - [8] Originally by: Miya Okolia Now is a good time to buy, trust me. Originally by: Miya Okolia just watch what happens in a few days quoted. now you cant run away from your statement. mostly harmless
Alex Raptos Caldari The Firestorm Millennium	Posted - 2008.10.07 00:38:00 - [9] Let me guess, the mass slaughter of ships these days now that lag is being fixed?
Vendrin Caldari Stimulus	Posted - 2008.10.07 00:38:00 - [10]
Dirk Magnum Royal Hiigaran Navy	Posted - 2008.10.07 00:43:00 - [11] I will be spending my entire wallet on rigs now because of the OP. Trust me.
Jinx Barker GFB Scientific	Posted - 2008.10.07 00:47:00 - [12] Itz Ze Kredit Crunch!!!!!
Haakelen Gallente Genesis Rising Brotherhood of Nod.	Posted - 2008.10.07 00:52:00 - [13] I'm now the proud owner of 5 Billion ISK in Armor EM Hardener Is. I am so going to cash out. And all because of this eminently reliable inside information the forums from an alt.
Alex Raptos Caldari The Firestorm Millennium	Posted - 2008.10.07 00:54:00 - [14] Originally by: Haakelen I'm now the proud owner of 5 Billion ISK in Armor EM Hardener Is. I am so going to cash out. And all because of this eminently reliable inside information the forums from an alt. Rigs, not modules you Douche!
Haakelen Gallente Genesis Rising Brotherhood of Nod.	Posted - 2008.10.07 00:55:00 - [15] oh god i'm screwed now
Faife Minmatar Noctiscion The Black Isle	Posted - 2008.10.07 00:58:00 - [16] so op is sitting there, wishing his CCCs would start selling, when suddenly he gets this idea...
Miya Okolia	Posted - 2008.10.07 01:05:00 - [17] Lol If anybody knew anything about the market and how it worked you would look at the data and be able to see for yourself. I am not going to argue with anybody, i knew i would get flamed, but i will be bumping this post in less than a week with a big =) hi
c4 t Directive Enterprises	Posted - 2008.10.07 01:09:00 - [18] Originally by: Miya Okolia Lol If anybody knew anything about the market and how it worked you would look at the data and be able to see for yourself. I am not going to argue with anybody, i knew i would get flamed, but i will be bumping this post in less than a week with a big =) i will bump it incase of your absence =D mostly harmless
Miya Okolia	Posted - 2008.10.07 01:11:00 - [19] please do hi
Is forporn THE INTERNET.	Posted - 2008.10.07 01:14:00 - [20] Originally by: Miya Okolia Edited by: Miya Okolia on 07/10/2008 01:08:21This is what i do for a living in eve, the market. Its also what i do irl. I'M THE FINANCE GUY FOR LIKE MICROSOFT AND LIKE UR WRONG Join THE INTERNET. today
Baldour Ngarr Interwarp Plexus Controlled Chaos	Posted - 2008.10.07 01:16:00 - [21] About the only thing I can think of that the OP might actually know, is that something's changed on SiSi that means rigs will be much harder to make. If he knows something, surely some others will also know it and can confirm? Or shall we continue to assume that he's just in a hurry to sell his rigs... ________________________________________________ "I tried strip mining, but I lost, and it's cold flying around in space naked."
Sky Grunthor Minmatar The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.	Posted - 2008.10.07 01:20:00 - [22] well they did just announce a live dev blog about the speed "rebalancing"...er nerfinator thingamajig ------------------------------------------------- Search: Sky Grunthor
Miya Okolia	Posted - 2008.10.07 01:21:00 - [23] I dont sell rigs. hi
Dirk Magnum Royal Hiigaran Navy	Posted - 2008.10.07 01:22:00 - [24] Edited by: Dirk Magnum on 07/10/2008 01:22:29 Hot off the test server presses: salvaging other peoples' wrecks will flag you, with the same mechanics as can stealing. This means less salvage will be retrieved because some people are scared to death of being flagged to others, which of course means that rig prices will go up. I do not believe that the OP's suggestion that their price will "skyrocket" is accurate though, since so many wrecks end up sitting in empty belts. Why worry about a flag when nobody is around to shoot you when you perform the criminal action? Typical Eve Forum sensationalizing if you ask me.
Kransthow THE INTERNET.	Posted - 2008.10.07 01:24:00 - [25] Originally by: Dirk Magnum Edited by: Dirk Magnum on 07/10/2008 01:22:29 Hot off the test server presses: salvaging other peoples' wrecks will flag you, with the same mechanics as can stealing. wtf ccp
Kuar Z'thain Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.10.07 01:31:00 - [26] Originally by: Kransthow Originally by: Dirk Magnum Edited by: Dirk Magnum on 07/10/2008 01:22:29 Hot off the test server presses: salvaging other peoples' wrecks will flag you, with the same mechanics as can stealing. wtf ccp wtf, indeed. I predict a thread in two weeks time: "Why do these damn salvage thieves keep killing my uberpwnraven?"
Terranid Meester Tactical Assault and Recon Unit	Posted - 2008.10.07 01:36:00 - [27] Edited by: Terranid Meester on 07/10/2008 01:36:14 If true then what happened to the "mechanics working as intended" often quoted by CCP when some pathetic carebear complains about salvage being taken. A pitiful U-turn by CCP of biased proportions in the future?
TYCONDEROGA Amarr EMPERIAL ARMOR	Posted - 2008.10.07 01:36:00 - [28] Edited by: TYCONDEROGA on 07/10/2008 01:37:51 This thread started by the person who gave us these memorable hits: 1. Isk in a day? 2. Another question for billionaire's 3. How did you make your billions? How did you make your billions? 4. Oh I got into Rig production, and then started posting Market Data spam threads resulting in everyone buying my crap. 5. Profit?????? He who defends Everything, Defends Nothing!
Wet Ferret	Posted - 2008.10.07 01:46:00 - [29] Originally by: TYCONDEROGA Edited by: TYCONDEROGA on 07/10/2008 01:37:51 This thread started by the person who gave us these memorable hits: 1. Isk in a day? 2. Another question for billionaire's 3. How did you make your billions? How did you make your billions? 4. Oh I got into Rig production, and then started posting Market Data spam threads resulting in everyone buying my crap. 5. Profit?????? If what she said about "living" the market is true, then all she cares about is the $$$ and those other threads might just make sense. But I wouldn't blame you for calling BS. But, yeah. These forums seriously need some indicator that the post has ended and the sig has started.
Antoine SaintJust Gallente The Society for Creative Euthanasia	Posted - 2008.10.07 01:51:00 - [30] Originally by: Kransthow Originally by: Dirk Magnum Edited by: Dirk Magnum on 07/10/2008 01:22:29 Hot off the test server presses: salvaging other peoples' wrecks will flag you, with the same mechanics as can stealing. wtf ccp Oh, the joy.
Zeba Minmatar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2008.10.07 01:51:00 - [31] Originally by: Dirk Magnum Hot off the test server presses: salvaging other peoples' wrecks will flag you, with the same mechanics as can stealing. Hot indeed! Twice the chance of getting aggro from an annoyed CNR pilot. inappropriate signature. ~WeatherMan
Miya Okolia	Posted - 2008.10.07 01:56:00 - [32] Originally by: TYCONDEROGA Edited by: TYCONDEROGA on 07/10/2008 01:37:51 This thread started by the person who gave us these memorable hits: 1. Isk in a day? 2. Another question for billionaire's 3. How did you make your billions? How did you make your billions? 4. Oh I got into Rig production, and then started posting Market Data spam threads resulting in everyone buying my crap. 5. Profit?????? Has it ever occurred to anybody that i MIGHT know what i am talking about? I could be wrong. But I highly doubt it. Like i said, i dont sell rigs. hi
Siigari Kitawa Gallente The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2008.10.07 02:01:00 - [33] In before CCP HAS A LOOK!!! www.siigarikitawa.com
Wet Ferret	Posted - 2008.10.07 02:03:00 - [34] Originally by: Jinx Barker Originally by: Zeba Originally by: Dirk Magnum Hot off the test server presses: salvaging other peoples' wrecks will flag you, with the same mechanics as can stealing. Hot indeed! Twice the chance of getting aggro from an annoyed CNR pilot. I know predict some faction mods being sold cheaply by the CNR Gankers! I hope CCP does the right thing and makes it an option instead of a mandatory thing like can flagging. What a dumb idea that was. But, yeah. These forums seriously need some indicator that the post has ended and the sig has started.
Kazuma Saruwatari Caldari	Posted - 2008.10.07 03:30:00 - [35] in before many whines about wreck flaggi- ohwai-, its already started and its not even in TQ yet -
Aequitas Sancti Viziam	Posted - 2008.10.07 05:19:00 - [36] Market manipulation anyone?
Sexiest Beast Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2008.10.07 05:49:00 - [37] I'll just be able to make more of my own cause nobody salvages my mission anymore
Malcanis RuffRyders Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.10.07 05:55:00 - [38] I've revised my previous opinion on salvage flagging. I now think it would be an excellent idea. In fact I think salvaging someone wreck should not only get you flagged, but also autotargetted.
Tiirae The New Era HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2008.10.07 05:56:00 - [39] I build and sell about 2000 rigs a week in Jita; raw materials have been trended up a little lately but there's no sign of anything dramatic happening. If they do change it so salvage-theft results in a flag, I don't think it would make a lot of difference. The amount of salvage being brought in by 50,000 people salvaging their own missions will dwarf the efforts of the few hundred people doing salvage theft. There may be a slight bump upward but I'd be surprised if it was more than 5% or so. OTOH, the OP may be talking about some other reason. No idea. It will be interesting to see cos I've got about 5b worth of salvage in stock, it would be nice if that doubled in value overnight!
Sheriff Jones Amarr Clinical Experiment	Posted - 2008.10.07 06:30:00 - [40] Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 07/10/2008 06:29:58 Rigs are about to SkyNet?! runs My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
Flash Bombardo Minmatar	Posted - 2008.10.07 07:39:00 - [41] Merely postulating something unlikely sounding with no explanation other than 'trust me' is at least needlessly enigmatic and at worst an attempt to deliberately misguide people. "I have not problem with prostitute, but the kiddy dools is to much for me" - Orcan
Miya Okolia	Posted - 2008.10.07 07:44:00 - [42] Edited by: Miya Okolia on 07/10/2008 07:48:12 Originally by: Flash Bombardo Merely postulating something unlikely sounding with no explanation other than 'trust me' is at least needlessly enigmatic and at worst an attempt to deliberately misguide people. ... sorry i dont have a dictionary handy. hi
Karanth Gallente Eve's Brothers of Destiny FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2008.10.07 08:13:00 - [43] Edited by: Karanth on 07/10/2008 08:13:06 Originally by: Flash Bombardo Merely postulating something unlikely sounding with no explanation other than 'trust me' is at least needlessly enigmatic and at worst an attempt to deliberately misguide people. Your verbosity is misplaced good sir, as well as gratuitous in its viability. If this was a market play, it would be in Market Discussions, not General Discussion. I have faith here. EDIT: I used the exact words I meant to use. --- Wheel of Whineage
Miya Okolia	Posted - 2008.10.07 08:19:00 - [44] Originally by: Karanth Edited by: Karanth on 07/10/2008 08:13:06 Originally by: Flash Bombardo Merely postulating something unlikely sounding with no explanation other than 'trust me' is at least needlessly enigmatic and at worst an attempt to deliberately misguide people. Your verbosity is misplaced good sir, as well as gratuitous in its viability. If this was a market play, it would be in Market Discussions, not General Discussion. I have faith here. EDIT: I used the exact words I meant to use. hi
F90OEX F9X	Posted - 2008.10.07 08:22:00 - [45] LOL
Shadowsword COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2008.10.07 08:27:00 - [46] The first rule in speculation is, that you don't tell competitors what you're doing. Unless you want to manipulate them. Thus this thread based on a vague, unsupported claim is totally worthless. ------------------------------------------
Zey Nadar Gallente Heavily Utilized Mechanic Mayhem Einherjar Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.07 08:54:00 - [47] Originally by: Terranid Meester Edited by: Terranid Meester on 07/10/2008 01:36:14 If true then what happened to the "mechanics working as intended" often quoted by CCP when some pathetic carebear complains about salvage being taken. A pitiful U-turn by CCP of biased proportions in the future? Propably still working as intended. Just what are they intended to do may change.
Terianna Eri Amarr Scrutari	Posted - 2008.10.07 08:56:00 - [48] Originally by: Dirk Magnum Edited by: Dirk Magnum on 07/10/2008 01:22:29 Hot off the test server presses: salvaging other peoples' wrecks will flag you, with the same mechanics as can stealing. This means less salvage will be retrieved because some people are scared to death of being flagged to others, which of course means that rig prices will go up. I do not believe that the OP's suggestion that their price will "skyrocket" is accurate though, since so many wrecks end up sitting in empty belts. Why worry about a flag when nobody is around to shoot you when you perform the criminal action? Typical Eve Forum sensationalizing if you ask me. Source!? __________________________________ Originally by: Arthur Frayn How much to ruin all your holes, luv?
Rethie Caldari	Posted - 2008.10.07 09:16:00 - [49] Trash metal in space is trash metal, we forget space is a huge place, if people leave their wrecks ,we should be able to salvage the stuff without aggro, and yes I have had salvage looting done to me, so what!!! Go kill some more rats and beat the guys to it. In RL there would be no way to determine the ownership of scrap metal left behind, except for the original ownership (killed) I thought this was a virtual world. Keep the cans flagged sure, but scrap metal (wreck)???
Vaal Erit Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.10.07 09:28:00 - [50] Originally by: Is for** Originally by:** Miya Okolia Edited by: Miya Okolia on 07/10/2008 01:08:21This is what i do for a living in eve, the market. Its also what i do irl. I'M THE FINANCE GUY FOR LIKE MICROSOFT AND LIKE UR WRONG This made me lol pretty hard. Even if salvaging rigs cause aggression, it will have zero effect on rig prices, because the numbers of mission runners are staggering and almost all of them salvage their own missions. To put it shortly: the price of rigs doesn't care about who salvaged the wrecks. -- http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html
Towelieban Minmatar Rionnag Alba	Posted - 2008.10.07 09:33:00 - [51] please do tell us more besides the trust me i know. as people dont know you why should they trust you
umop 3pisdn Minmatar Fnck the blob.	Posted - 2008.10.07 09:40:00 - [52] Once the nanonerf hits then they will indeed go skyward... Speed rigs will be useless, armor rigs will be even more ridiculously priced than before, shield rigs will continue to cost less than ammunition...
Flash Bombardo Minmatar	Posted - 2008.10.07 09:41:00 - [53] Originally by: Karanth Edited by: Karanth on 07/10/2008 08:13:06 Originally by: Flash Bombardo Merely postulating something unlikely sounding with no explanation other than 'trust me' is at least needlessly enigmatic and at worst an attempt to deliberately misguide people. Your verbosity is misplaced good sir, as well as gratuitous in its viability. If this was a market play, it would be in Market Discussions, not General Discussion. I have faith here. EDIT: I used the exact words I meant to use. Gratuitous in its viability? WTF ? "I have not problem with prostitute, but the kiddy dools is to much for me" - Orcan
Telemicus Thrace Thrace Inc	Posted - 2008.10.07 09:42:00 - [54] Nonsense. If you want to make millions of ISK for very little effort just ask me how. Send me ten million ISK and an EveMail and I'll tell you how I did it. I have an honest face. Thrace Inc Poster
Wendat Huron Stellar Solutions	Posted - 2008.10.07 09:42:00 - [55] Cardinal rule of life is, if anyone says 'trust me' that's the person you should be wary about. These forums are FUBAR, upgrade this decade!
Baldour Ngarr Interwarp Plexus Controlled Chaos	Posted - 2008.10.07 09:47:00 - [56] Originally by: Miya Okolia Originally by: Flash Bombardo Merely postulating something unlikely sounding with no explanation other than 'trust me' is at least needlessly enigmatic and at worst an attempt to deliberately misguide people. ... sorry i dont have a dictionary handy. For the benefit of the terminally thick: "Show us the proof, or sod off." ________________________________________________ "I tried strip mining, but I lost, and it's cold flying around in space naked."
Anneka Tong B. S. Radioactive Sheep Farm	Posted - 2008.10.07 09:49:00 - [57] Dirk Magnum is a naughty boy who needs a spanking. I like genetic engineering Past projects: The Radioactive Sheep Current project: CyberCow
OneSock Crown Industries	Posted - 2008.10.07 10:02:00 - [58] Originally by: Telemicus Thrace Nonsense. If you want to make millions of ISK for very little effort just ask me how. Send me ten million ISK and an EveMail and I'll tell you how I did it. I have an honest face. ^Scam ! If anyone would like some guidance on how to avoid scams, please EveMail me and send me 10m isk.
Shallow Cash Disturbing Creations Laboratories Ltd New Eden Research	Posted - 2008.10.07 10:29:00 - [59] Even if the price of rigs sky rocket (which I doubt) be sure to contact my corp we produce rigs made to order and are usually much cheaper than the market price
Jana Clant New Dawn Corp New Eden Research	Posted - 2008.10.07 11:05:00 - [60] Originally by: OneSock Originally by: Telemicus Thrace Nonsense. If you want to make millions of ISK for very little effort just ask me how. Send me ten million ISK and an EveMail and I'll tell you how I did it. I have an honest face. ^Scam ! If anyone would like some guidance on how to avoid scams, please EveMail me and send me 10m isk. Confirming I will be receiving the ISK. Join New Eden Research today and never worry about queues again!
Sheriff Jones Amarr Clinical Experiment	Posted - 2008.10.07 11:12:00 - [61] Hell, if you want a good market tip, send me 1 million isk, i'll keep it and then tell you "Here's a tip, trust noone." My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
Shakari Sween Space Oddysey Pupule 'Ohana	Posted - 2008.10.07 11:34:00 - [62] Why doesnt everyone realise that npc wrecks arent owned by the person that shot them. After all it wasnt their ship that got blowen up. Technicaly they are owned by the npc's that got blowen up!
Rethie Caldari	Posted - 2008.10.07 11:54:00 - [63] Edited by: Rethie on 07/10/2008 11:54:10 ^ What she said
umop 3pisdn Minmatar Fnck the blob.	Posted - 2008.10.07 11:58:00 - [64] Short of a nano nerf not much will change... you really think carebears in highsec would dare shoot at people stealing their wrecks? If a ore thief takes your shit and you're all alone in your mining barge, do you fight back yes/no? ******ed.
Joss Sparq Caldari ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.07 12:17:00 - [65] Originally by: Anneka Tong Dirk Magnum is a naughty boy who needs a spanking. So he's not the Messiah?
Rethie Caldari	Posted - 2008.10.07 12:34:00 - [66] Edited by: Rethie on 07/10/2008 12:35:09 Originally by: umop 3pisdn Short of a nano nerf not much will change... you really think carebears in highsec would dare shoot at people stealing their wrecks? If a ore thief takes your shit and you're all alone in your mining barge, do you fight back yes/no? ******ed. I do (sometimes I carebear, when the brain is numb)
Delichon The First Foundation SOLAR FLEET	Posted - 2008.10.07 12:44:00 - [67] Originally by: umop 3pisdn Short of a nano nerf not much will change... you really think carebears in highsec would dare shoot at people stealing their wrecks? 1. Form a gang. 2. Get a passive drake doing missions 3. Agress the salvo thief salvaging your wreck (T1 frig would get instagibbed by the way). 4. Wait for him in PVP ship, all the while having a cloaked Falcon and a couple BSes near by. 5... 6. Profit! ------------------------------------------ All nerfs are meant to hurt you personally. They will be nerfing you directly next. EVE A new game every 6 months. (c) Atomos Darksun
Zhenga Black Thorn Enterprises	Posted - 2008.10.07 13:00:00 - [68] Originally by: Delichon Originally by: umop 3pisdn Short of a nano nerf not much will change... you really think carebears in highsec would dare shoot at people stealing their wrecks? 1. Form a gang. 2. Get a passive drake doing missions 3. Agress the salvo thief salvaging your wreck (T1 frig would get instagibbed by the way). 4. Wait for him in PVP ship, all the while having a cloaked Falcon and a couple BSes near by. 5... 6. Profit! That is why you check local. and 99% of mission runners would **** there self if they sent a cruise missile at another player.
Delichon The First Foundation SOLAR FLEET	Posted - 2008.10.07 13:09:00 - [69] Originally by: Zhenga That is why you check local. and 99% of mission runners would ** there self if they sent a cruise missile at another player. ""Check local in Motsu" - Eve expression meaning "doing sensless work that still would not protect you from getting ganked" What I meant was - not only carebears would use this feature. And everytime you see a carebear agressing you - you would think "Does he have over 9000 gangmates waiting for my next move or not?" ------------------------------------------ All nerfs are meant to hurt you personally**. They will be nerfing you directly next. EVE A new game every 6 months. (c) Atomos Darksun
Dirk Magnum Royal Hiigaran Navy	Posted - 2008.10.07 13:11:00 - [70] Edited by: Dirk Magnum on 07/10/2008 13:12:35 Originally by: Dirk Magnum Hot off the test server presses: salvaging other peoples' wrecks will flag you, with the same mechanics as can stealing. This means less salvage will be retrieved because some people are scared to death of being flagged to others, which of course means that rig prices will go up. I do not believe that the OP's suggestion that their price will "skyrocket" is accurate though, since so many wrecks end up sitting in empty belts. Why worry about a flag when nobody is around to shoot you when you perform the criminal action? Typical Eve Forum sensationalizing if you ask me. This isn't true btw.
Zhenga Black Thorn Enterprises	Posted - 2008.10.07 13:16:00 - [71] Originally by: Delichon Originally by: Zhenga That is why you check local. and 99% of mission runners would **** there self if they sent a cruise missile at another player. ""Check local in Motsu" - Eve expression meaning "doing sensless work that still would not protect you from getting ganked" What I meant was - not only carebears would use this feature. And everytime you see a carebear agressing you - you would think "Does he have over 9000 gangmates waiting for my next move or not?" well sir I am a motsu ninja salvager (well, my main is) and I kill the little ravens of Motsu when they grow ballz and attack me. Checking local will let you know what kind of odds you are facing as the aggro is only to that person and his/her corp not his gang m8's.
Rhatar Khurin Minmatar Native Freshfood	Posted - 2008.10.07 13:18:00 - [72] Originally by: umop 3pisdn Short of a nano nerf not much will change... you really think carebears in highsec would dare shoot at people stealing their wrecks? If a ore thief takes your shit and you're all alone in your mining barge, do you fight back yes/no? ******ed. I would actually prefer if someone jumped into my missions stealing my wrecks as that cuts down on space garbage as i rarely cba to salvage myself.
Terianna Eri Amarr Scrutari	Posted - 2008.10.07 13:30:00 - [73] Originally by: Dirk Magnum Edited by: Dirk Magnum on 07/10/2008 13:12:35 Originally by: Dirk Magnum Hot off the test server presses: salvaging other peoples' wrecks will flag you, with the same mechanics as can stealing. This means less salvage will be retrieved because some people are scared to death of being flagged to others, which of course means that rig prices will go up. I do not believe that the OP's suggestion that their price will "skyrocket" is accurate though, since so many wrecks end up sitting in empty belts. Why worry about a flag when nobody is around to shoot you when you perform the criminal action? Typical Eve Forum sensationalizing if you ask me. This isn't true btw. Damn, it sounded awesome __________________________________ Originally by: Arthur Frayn How much to ruin all your holes, luv?
Haradgrim Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION	Posted - 2008.10.07 13:39:00 - [74] Edited by: Haradgrim on 07/10/2008 13:40:14 If they implemented a salvage rights change; salvaging in PVP ships would become a worthwhile enterprise! -- Originally by: CCP Oveur ...every forum whine feels like a baby pony is getting killed
Miya Okolia	Posted - 2008.10.07 13:57:00 - [75] Edited by: Miya Okolia on 07/10/2008 13:57:29 Eve is too predictable..... Actually the people of eve are too predictable, which makes the game, in a sense, easy. hi
Anneka Tong B. S. Radioactive Sheep Farm	Posted - 2008.10.07 14:03:00 - [76] Originally by: Joss Sparq Originally by: Anneka Tong Dirk Magnum is a naughty boy who needs a spanking. So he's not the Messiah? Nope, just a rather good threadjacker. Originally by: Dirk Magnum This isn't true btw. but it was a good thread hijack \o/ I like genetic engineering Past projects: The Radioactive Sheep Current project: CyberCow
Baldour Ngarr Interwarp Plexus Controlled Chaos	Posted - 2008.10.07 14:19:00 - [77] Originally by: Shakari Sween Why doesnt everyone realise that npc wrecks arent owned by the person that shot them. After all it wasnt their ship that got blowen up. Technicaly they are owned by the npc's that got blowen up! Apparently that will no longer be so. Logically, your argument also applies to loot cans and they should never have been tagged either; but in the EVE world, logic doesn't always apply. ________________________________________________ "I tried strip mining, but I lost, and it's cold flying around in space naked."
Maximillian Bayonette White Lion Manufacture and Salvage	Posted - 2008.10.07 14:22:00 - [78] Originally by: Baldour Ngarr Originally by: Shakari Sween Why doesnt everyone realise that npc wrecks arent owned by the person that shot them. After all it wasnt their ship that got blowen up. Technicaly they are owned by the npc's that got blowen up! Apparently that will no longer be so. Originally by: Dirk Magnum This isn't true btw
Philis McCrakin	Posted - 2008.10.07 14:29:00 - [79] I heard from a reliable source that the salvage components will no longer drop when salvaging wrecks. Instead, you will just be able to pick up the installed rigs out of the wreck to make things easier. Honest.
ShadowMaiden Amarr Metal Machine	Posted - 2008.10.07 14:39:00 - [80] Originally by: Miya Okolia Edited by: Miya Okolia on 07/10/2008 01:08:21 Lol If anybody knew anything about the market and how it worked you would look at the data and be able to see for yourself. I am not going to argue with anybody, i knew i would get flamed, but i will be bumping this post in less than a week with a big =) This is what i do for a living in eve, the market. Its also what i do irl. MMO's - helping people who think pretend money is serious business believe they matter I wish I was a 3ft Doll with a watering can and heterochromatic eyes
Faife Minmatar Noctiscion The Black Isle	Posted - 2008.10.07 15:02:00 - [81] there is gullible, and then there is eve gullible.
Highwind Cid	Posted - 2008.10.07 16:01:00 - [82] Rigs are or for the reach. I personally don't use em on pvp ships. Real men fly rigless!
Dextrome	Posted - 2008.10.07 16:38:00 - [83] Edited by: Dextrome on 07/10/2008 16:39:46 If no one owns wrecks why does the corp ticker of the person who blewup the npc show next to the wreck? It should work the same as with cans. If this changes then my main will be more than happy to try and bait cnr pilots. To stay on topic, i don't think the market cares who salvages so prices shouldn't change much.
DubanFP Caldari Kylia Inc.	Posted - 2008.10.07 17:27:00 - [84] Rigs are about to skyrocket because a forum alt says so! /me sells all his old Tractor Beam BPOs and buys random rigs P.S. wonders who got the "Tractor Beam BPO" reference. _______________ "Cheap" and "Lame" are words created by people who refuse to admit they have been completely and utterly outclassed.
Sinder Ohm Demonic Corp G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.10.07 17:29:00 - [85] I know his secret! The Wall Street finance crisis is going to spill over to eve and affect rigs first we are all ****ed
Slade Trillgon Siorai Iontach	Posted - 2008.10.07 17:36:00 - [86] Edited by: Slade Trillgon on 07/10/2008 17:36:21 Originally by: Malcanis I've revised my previous opinion on salvage flagging. I now think it would be an excellent idea. In fact I think salvaging someone wreck should not only get you flagged, but also autotargetted. I read to this respones and laughed hard Slade Originally by: Crumplecorn NerfBat is now known as the WaveMachine. ≡v≡
Kahega Amielden Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2008.10.07 17:46:00 - [87] Edited by: Kahega Amielden on 07/10/2008 17:52:47 /rageoff Originally by: Catharacta My CNR runs on salvager tears.
Mika Meroko Minmatar Crayon Posting Inc	Posted - 2008.10.07 19:36:00 - [88] Originally by: Tiirae I build and sell about 2000 rigs a week in Jita; raw materials have been trended up a little lately but there's no sign of anything dramatic happening. If they do change it so salvage-theft results in a flag, I don't think it would make a lot of difference. The amount of salvage being brought in by 50,000 people salvaging their own missions will dwarf the efforts of the few hundred people doing salvage theft. There may be a slight bump upward but I'd be surprised if it was more than 5% or so. OTOH, the OP may be talking about some other reason. No idea. It will be interesting to see cos I've got about 5b worth of salvage in stock, it would be nice if that doubled in value overnight! .... have to agree with this person... is not gonna change.. XD Originally by: CCP Atropos I pod people because there's money to be made in selling tears.
Gaelenus Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2008.10.12 19:02:00 - [89] bump back up to see if op was right.. me thinks not
Seth Ruin Minmatar Ominous Corp Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2008.10.13 16:51:00 - [90] Originally by: Gaelenus bump back up to see if op was right.. me thinks not Not surprisingly, the OP was completely full of crap.
Shakari Sween Space Oddysey Pupule 'Ohana	Posted - 2008.10.13 17:05:00 - [91] if anything rig prices droped, got some good deals yesterday!
Tippia Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.10.13 17:21:00 - [92] Originally by: Malcanis I've revised my previous opinion on salvage flagging. I now think it would be an excellent idea. In fact I think salvaging someone wreck should not only get you flagged, but also autotargetted. …autotargetted and auto-engaged.
Faife Noctiscion	Posted - 2008.10.13 17:26:00 - [93] Originally by: Tippia Originally by: Malcanis I've revised my previous opinion on salvage flagging. I now think it would be an excellent idea. In fact I think salvaging someone wreck should not only get you flagged, but also autotargetted. àautotargetted and auto-engaged. heck, salvaging should just kill everyone in the constellation. --
Tippia Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.10.13 17:37:00 - [94] Originally by: Faife heck, salvaging should just kill everyone in the constellation. I agree. Why should those silly 0.0-dwellers with their fancy-pants Titans have all the mass-destruction fun?
low26 Caldari Maximum Yarrage	Posted - 2008.10.13 18:45:00 - [95] This just makes things better for me, worse for the carebear. Now i just probe them out and go in with gank fit/ nuet BS'S and repper Dommi's and salvage everything in sight. Then watch the sweet tears flow as thier Uber Navy Raven crumbles to dust. If they dont pay of course.
Tortun Nahme Minmatar Umbra Synergy	Posted - 2008.10.13 19:05:00 - [96] yeah I don't think it will change salvage prices, or even remotely reduce salvage "theft" I do predict more carebear tears though hehe Applebabe ate my signature :( but the fish hat forgives! Nemotology is the EvE religion of choice!
Amarrbone	Posted - 2008.10.13 20:01:00 - [97] Edited by: Amarrbone on 13/10/2008 20:04:48 I'm guessing that thanks to the recent shifts in 0.0 real estate you will be seeing a certain 0.0 Alliance jack the prices of raw materials up, moon minerals for example. When they jack up those prices, the others will start to do the same. The price of T2 rigs will start to rise. People will start going after the considerably cheaper T1 rigs. The T1 rig makers will then start to raise prices because the demand will go up. Salvagers will start hawking their loot for higher prices because they want a piece of the pie as well. They are doing the grunt work after all. Salvage stealers will benefit from the higher prices as well, but will now have to contend with the flag from taking the salvage, but really any salvage thief worth his salt will not be bothered by this. At worst they will need a bit more patience is all. Wait until the person leaves the room/mission, then salvage. If the person returns with a salvage boat chances are he wont be able to kill the thief. Thief escapes. Pirates and small gangs will have a new foothold in Highsec. They can probe people out, steal the salvage, get their flag and hope the mission runner shoots them. Any half brained missioner should know better, but there are plenty of people out there that lack the basic common sense that would save their hides. Thats just my 2 cents...
soldieroffortune 258 Gallente Trinity Council	Posted - 2008.10.13 20:12:00 - [98] Originally by: Miya Okolia Edited by: Miya Okolia on 07/10/2008 02:00:44 Originally by: TYCONDEROGA Edited by: TYCONDEROGA on 07/10/2008 01:37:51 This thread started by the person who gave us these memorable hits: 1. Isk in a day? 2. Another question for billionaire's 3. How did you make your billions? How did you make your billions? 4. Oh I got into Rig production, and then started posting Market Data spam threads resulting in everyone buying my crap. 5. Profit?????? Has it ever occurred to anybody that i MIGHT know what i am talking about? I could be wrong. But I highly doubt it. Like i said, i dont sell rigs. fortunatley, it has not Originally by: soldieroffortune 258 "*Eve is about making yourself richer while making the other guy poorer*"

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