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taekwandokid
hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.10.07 15:34:00 -
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Instead of having it so you can sell GTC's for how ever much you want, make it a flat rate. So the seller can't rip off the people who really need them.
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Clansworth
Burning Sky Labs
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Posted - 2008.10.07 15:43:00 -
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GTC's are sold for a flat rate. They are sold in the EVE Store for US$34.99 for a 60-day card.
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taekwandokid
hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.10.07 16:49:00 -
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Originally by: Clansworth GTC's are sold for a flat rate. They are sold in the EVE Store for US$34.99 for a 60-day card.
Didnt think i had to be that specific, flat rate for isk.......
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procurement specialist
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Posted - 2008.10.07 17:03:00 -
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you do realize that if you did that you would simply not have them sold right?
supply and demand. if you control the price of something to be less than what people are willing to pay in rl money for the same amount of in game isk they simply won't do it.
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Asno Malo
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Posted - 2008.10.07 17:09:00 -
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Greetings,
Originally by: taekwandokid Instead of having it so you can sell GTC's for how ever much you want, make it a flat rate.
So you are basically suggesting that CCP limit the ISK costs for GTCs? At that point, there is little to no incentive for people to sell GTCs, which will mean there will be fewer available, so people like yourself would have a harder time getting them.
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taekwandokid
hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.10.07 18:29:00 -
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Originally by: procurement specialist you do realize that if you did that you would simply not have them sold right?
supply and demand. if you control the price of something to be less than what people are willing to pay in rl money for the same amount of in game isk they simply won't do it.
people sell them to get isk, limiting them to how much they can sell them for won't make people stop selling them. For some people, its their main source of income.
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Viktrus
Caldari Omega Engineering Inc.
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Posted - 2008.10.07 18:51:00 -
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Supply and demand my friend. Supply and demand.
It reflects a real life market. Stop buying them and the price goes down. If the price got too low, can we say make a low-cap on the price? probably not because you want a GTC the cheapest you can get.
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Asno Malo
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Posted - 2008.10.08 00:39:00 -
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Originally by: taekwandokid people sell them to get isk, limiting them to how much they can sell them for won't make people stop selling them. For some people, its their main source of income.
Yes it will. The problem is that once you place a cap, the ISK resellers will drop their ISK price and it will be come more cost effective for people to buy from them instead of GTCs. While I don't buy ISK, I do tend to watch their price in comparison to GTC -> ISK prices and so far they are fairly closely balanced. Once a cap goes on it, that will change in favor of the ISK resellers. Once that happens, you will lose most, though not all, GTC sellers, which will result in a far lower volume of GTCs for sale. And from there, it will become a game of secondary values which CCP cannot control.
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Kransthow
THE INTERNET.
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Posted - 2008.10.08 01:31:00 -
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itt someone dosen't get the idea of a market
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Kiki Arnolds
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.10.08 01:43:00 -
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Well, it all depends on how elastic the supply and demand. If neither is elastic, then his idea works. You could set the price high, or low, and the same amount are sold. The problem is that they are not elastic. Would more people buy if they are chaeper? yes! which is the problem. If you lower the price, supply will not increase. Demand will. This will create a shortage. Sure, GTC would be cheap, but good luck finding any for sale. Set the price too high, and demand will decrease, creating a glut on the market. The free market finds the price point were supply and demand are roughly equal. ç¦ |
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Strill
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Posted - 2008.10.08 02:07:00 -
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Edited by: Strill on 08/10/2008 02:11:55
Originally by: taekwandokid
Originally by: procurement specialist you do realize that if you did that you would simply not have them sold right?
supply and demand. if you control the price of something to be less than what people are willing to pay in rl money for the same amount of in game isk they simply won't do it.
people sell them to get isk, limiting them to how much they can sell them for won't make people stop selling them. For some people, its their main source of income.
Did you listen to what you just wrote? If GTCs are the main source of income for some people, and you force them to sell their GTCs for less, some of them are going to just quit EVE because it's not worth it any more
It's basic supply and demand.
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Jin Labarre
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Posted - 2008.10.08 03:34:00 -
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Originally by: taekwandokid Instead of having it so you can sell GTC's for how ever much you want, make it a flat rate. So the seller can't rip off the people who really need them.
Rip off... really need... Oh my. Goodness gracious me.
Are you serious?
The possibility to safely buy GTCs for fictional currency is a very nice feature. However, there is no basic human right to get them cheap. If you want cheap GTCs on the market, go ahead buy some and sell them cheap.
CCP seels GTCs at a fixed rate. What players do for ingame currency is their business. After all, it is no real money. It is monopoly creds.
Besides, the GTCs are not that expensive.
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taekwandokid
hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.10.08 09:53:00 -
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Originally by: Jin Labarre
Besides, the GTCs are not that expensive.
lol
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2008.10.08 10:21:00 -
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If CCP would set the ISK price for GTCs they would give ISK a real life cash value, causing all kinds of nasty issues, like taxes and property rights. That would be a really bad idea.
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Sansha'Seventia
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Posted - 2008.10.08 13:10:00 -
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you have to accept the isk/GTC ratio is centred more around the RL issues of money, as spare money becomes harder to come by due to the economy people will cut back on stuff like trading GTC's and they will naturally want more isk to reflect the value of the RLM they are putting in.
remember, isk is free. its a by-product of your entertainment of playing Eve, if you generate 500M spare isk a month from your eve playing then you can afford to play for free, if you don't is it worth it spending XX hours grinding just to play for free? probably not. 4 hours RL work a month would mean you could buy your own GTC and spend your isk however you feel.
and sellers arent ripping people off, they are charging what the market will stand. who is to say what a isk is worth in RLM. is a titan REALLY worth 7000USD? according to the RLM/GTC ratio it is....
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