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Arithron
Gallente Gallente Trade Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.09 23:57:00 -
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If you ever player Elite or Privateer, you'll know the joy of being zillions of AU from home and in desperate need of fuel...
What if we could scoop gases for jump drives etc direct from planetry bodies (after doing a quick scan to find suitable ones of course).
It's an idea: discuss pitfalls and advantages (and any other possible applications) below!
Take care, Arithron
Better to be a live dog than a dead lion... |
Arithron
Gallente Gallente Trade Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.09 23:57:00 -
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If you ever player Elite or Privateer, you'll know the joy of being zillions of AU from home and in desperate need of fuel...
What if we could scoop gases for jump drives etc direct from planetry bodies (after doing a quick scan to find suitable ones of course).
It's an idea: discuss pitfalls and advantages (and any other possible applications) below!
Take care, Arithron
Better to be a live dog than a dead lion... |
Dark 'Shadow
Shadow Fire Industries
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Posted - 2008.10.10 02:31:00 -
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Originally by: Arithron If you ever player Elite or Privateer, you'll know the joy of being zillions of AU from home and in desperate need of fuel...
What if we could scoop gases for jump drives etc direct from planetry bodies (after doing a quick scan to find suitable ones of course).
It's an idea: discuss pitfalls and advantages (and any other possible applications) below!
Take care, Arithron
Ice mining would get even less profitable?
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Herschel Yamamoto
Bloodmoney Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.10.10 02:42:00 -
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Nah, fuelling is the sort of thing that should be done by miners, not capital pilots. Don't jump out unless you're feeling secure about your lines of supply - an army marches on its stomach, and all that. |
Zaintiraris
Caldari Archon Industries
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Posted - 2008.10.10 14:33:00 -
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Raping the atmosphere of worlds doesn't like a sustainable idea - might lead to a global cooling or somesuch ---
Originally by: CCP Hammer This game was so much better back before people knew math.
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2008.10.10 15:29:00 -
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Problem with atmospheres is that they don't contain too much of the needed isotope. You're more likely to find what you're looking for at a star than a planet.
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Ashley Thomas
Kiith Paktu Nex Eternus
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Posted - 2008.10.12 01:45:00 -
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Edited by: Ashley Thomas on 12/10/2008 01:47:11 there's an idea i could go for, risking taking considerable heat and radiation damage, sensor scrambling em waves and potentially getting caught with your pants down in a desperate attempt to get a little fuel from the sun to make the next jump. could consider it part of the tactical environment idea. but i actually like that idea
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Ashley Thomas
Kiith Paktu Nex Eternus
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Posted - 2008.10.12 01:54:00 -
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i gotta find a tactical environment thread, i'm really starting to like that idea
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Adrian Steel
Caldari Reaper Industries Eternal Rapture
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Posted - 2008.10.12 07:08:00 -
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Originally by: Ashley Thomas Edited by: Ashley Thomas on 12/10/2008 01:47:11 there's an idea i could go for, risking taking considerable heat and radiation damage, sensor scrambling em waves and potentially getting caught with your pants down in a desperate attempt to get a little fuel from the sun to make the next jump. could consider it part of the tactical environment idea. but i actually like that idea
Nice stuff! Love it.
This isn't just for capitals, but for Black Ops ships as well. If anything Black Ops vessels would profit more from it - a boost they could use.
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Nnamuachs
Caldari Kiith Paktu Nex Eternus
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Posted - 2008.10.12 17:07:00 -
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as dark said above me, its already hardly even profitable (read not at all) by comparison to mine ice instead of regular ores... the last thing we need is a system where people can get fuel without even mining ice.
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Arithron
Gallente Gallente Trade Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.12 17:15:00 -
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The idea was that you'd be too far away from your mining vessel to mine ice for fuel, or anywhere near a station to buy it!
Black ops definately, tactical refuelling etc I like...
Keep the ideas coming...
Arithron
Better to be a live dog than a dead lion... |
Nnamuachs
Caldari Kiith Paktu Nex Eternus
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Posted - 2008.10.12 18:40:00 -
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Originally by: Arithron The idea was that you'd be too far away from your mining vessel to mine ice for fuel, or anywhere near a station to buy it!
Black ops definately, tactical refuelling etc I like...
Keep the ideas coming...
Arithron
so whats to stop people from doing this in their personally controlled low/null secs.. or even in high sec.. why mine ice when i can probably scoop the fuel i need 10x faster than mining ice.. which causes the problem.. it would have to take atleast double the time to get the fuel from a scoop than it would from mining it.
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Ashley Thomas
Kiith Paktu Nex Eternus
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Posted - 2008.10.12 18:54:00 -
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Edited by: Ashley Thomas on 12/10/2008 19:01:07 it just needs to have a massive downside to it, like really, really large bursts of thermal/EM damage (i guess relative to ship size, otherwise blast big enough to hurt carrier would pop a black op) and minimal returns in fuel. make it so if a carrier/mom/whatever is caught harvesting from the sun its at a huge tactical disadvantage and can be easily destroyed. that way the primary source of fuel will still be ice, but if your a long way from home and short on fuel, that sun might look worth the risk.
after a little more thought, best way to do it would probably be a high slot module. long cycle time that prevents warp, stops shield and capacitor from recharging, makes ship unable to receive logistic support or something like that.
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2008.10.12 19:26:00 -
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You could make it require modules, which use up slots that can't be used for something else. Could be enough of a downside when you need to add a highslot harvester and a medslot on-board refinery to your ship. In addition to it being less efficient than ice mining, of course.
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Ashley Thomas
Kiith Paktu Nex Eternus
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Posted - 2008.10.14 13:42:00 -
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bumping to see if there's any other good ideas
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Aarin Wrath
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.10.20 16:54:00 -
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Gotta say I kinda like the idea. (having fueled that way in Elite long long long ago)
Yeah it would have to be almost suicidal from a risk perspective. It would also have to be incredibly time intensive.
With those two HUGE disadvantages, it would be best to mine ice, and only do a harvest in the worst of all worst case scenarios.
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