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Jiss Katcher
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Posted - 2008.10.11 16:00:00 -
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i know that the upcoming changes are still unclear but if you were going to start a new char (for FW/general PvP) which race would you train in, given what you've learned in PvP to date, and why?
thanks :)
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Khraunus
Amarr Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2008.10.11 16:01:00 -
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Caldari.
3 mill SP drake.
You'll be uber after the patch.
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Jiss Katcher
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Posted - 2008.10.11 16:03:00 -
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Originally by: Khraunus Caldari.
3 mill SP drake.
You'll be uber after the patch.
why? i ask seriously as i'm a relative newb to pvp and have only ever flown minny ships
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Antoine Lefevre
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2008.10.11 16:04:00 -
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Originally by: Khraunus Caldari.
3 mill SP drake.
You'll be uber after the patch.
This tbh!
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Adora Femella
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Posted - 2008.10.11 16:46:00 -
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Originally by: Jiss Katcher
Originally by: Khraunus Caldari.
3 mill SP drake.
You'll be uber after the patch.
why? i ask seriously as i'm a relative newb to pvp and have only ever flown minny ships
They are referring to the up and coming speed nerf. CCP will likely nerf missiles too, so do what you should have done in any case. Just train the race that has the ships you like flying and don't run after the FotM. The current balance will get shuffled a bit and it will take some time to see what works in different combat scenarios.
You can get a pretty good idea what each race has to offer by browsing the ships and modules forum. If some ships are OP or suck, people will discuss it there in detail.
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FlameGlow
Legio Octae Rebellion Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.11 16:49:00 -
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Train minmatar, they'll be boosted again someday _____________ I don't care what is nerfed, as long as it's not my "undock" button. |
Armoured C
Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.10.11 16:49:00 -
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amarr
i wish i was amarian
anyone got a race change machine anywhere ?
My new blog here |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.10.11 16:49:00 -
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Train current FOTM, before you finish training, FOTM gets nerfed Train whatever you think you like, and have the satisfaction of doing things your way. Train everything, and always be able to pick the new FOTM, whatever it is it might be (i.e. "nerf-proofing").
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Alternate resist display || Mission reward revamp || better nanofix
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Rhanna Khurin
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.10.11 17:00:00 -
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Whichever one has the foxiest looking porttrait!
^^
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Armoured C
Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.10.11 17:13:00 -
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Originally by: Rhanna Khurin Whichever one has the foxiest looking porttrait!
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curse? NO WAIT i change my answer nyx ..what i cant change it ok curse is da sex looking anyway not as good as they nyx but is look good
My new blog here |
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Laechyd Eldgorn
Caldari Karjala Inc.
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Posted - 2008.10.11 17:17:00 -
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Originally by: Antoine Lefevre
Originally by: Khraunus Caldari.
3 mill SP drake.
You'll be uber after the patch.
This tbh!
Passive drake is crappy for anything else than pve and never will be anything else very likely. I also want to note how crap dps you'll be doing having 3mil sp. It's not even funny.
Hopefully upcoming speed balance does not increase missile damage in any way. Especially against ships you could hit normally anyway. It's not likely to affect anyone else than those having superduperminmaxed fotm imbaships and vagabond will probably still be pretty superfast compared to other hacs.
Speed nerf wouldn't change the fact that any drake with proper skills will somewhat 2-3 volley my heretic anyway. So..
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Karentaki
Gallente Fighting While Intoxicated Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.10.11 17:20:00 -
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Originally by: Khraunus Caldari.
3 mill SP drake.
You'll be uber after the patch.
QFT
Really, the last few patches have all boosted Caldari, and that trend is likely to continue. They currently have some of the best:
Battlecruisers (Drake) Battleships (Torp Raven) Recons (Falcon)
among others
Quote:
EVE is like a sandbox with landmines. Deal with it.
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Rhatar Khurin
Minmatar Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2008.10.11 17:30:00 -
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Originally by: Armoured C
Originally by: Rhanna Khurin Whichever one has the foxiest looking porttrait!
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curse? NO WAIT i change my answer nyx ..what i cant change it ok curse is da sex looking anyway not as good as they nyx but is look good
I meant avatar lol
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Terianna Eri
Amarr Scrutari
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Posted - 2008.10.11 17:31:00 -
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Originally by: Rhanna Khurin Whichever one has the foxiest looking porttrait!
^^
Amarr Khanid female squad, reporting in o7 __________________________________
Originally by: Arthur Frayn How much to ruin all your holes, luv?
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Matrix Skye
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.10.11 17:44:00 -
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Edited by: Matrix Skye on 11/10/2008 17:45:22 ignore the trolls chanting drake is teh uber. they're just bitter their nano pwn mobiles are getting nerfed. the drake is a harmless spitting turtle with a hard shell and that's all it is. minnie will still be good at pvp, as well as gallente and amarr. they just wont be invincible anymore
caldari is good at pvp, but as support vessel mostly. so go caldari if you like playing support role.
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Khraunus
Amarr Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2008.10.11 18:00:00 -
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Originally by: Matrix Skye Edited by: Matrix Skye on 11/10/2008 17:57:36 Edited by: Matrix Skye on 11/10/2008 17:45:22 ignore the trolls chanting drake is teh uber. they're just bitter their nano pwn mobiles are getting nerfed. the drake is a harmless spitting turtle with a hard shell and that's all it is. minnie will still be good at pvp, as well as gallente and amarr. they just wont be invincible anymore
caldari is good at pvp, but as support vessel mostly. so go caldari if you like playing support role.
and dont train FotM. if you do dont ***** and moan about it later like the rest of the FotM Whining Forum Club.
That, and the fact that a newbie in a drake will eat your face after the patch. Ignore this fellow, he's just bitter because he can't figure out how to beat a nanoship and assumes they're invincible just because he can't adapt.
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Kahega Amielden
Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2008.10.11 18:03:00 -
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Fly what you want to fly. For one, no one has any idea how the changes are going to affect PVP because they haven't even seen the final ones yet, let alone tested them. For two, by the time you start PVPing with this new character, the BalanceBat will be making a second pass.
Originally by: Catharacta My CNR runs on salvager tears.
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Neesa Corrinne
Rogue Shadow Squad Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.10.11 18:12:00 -
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If you want to be useful for the next two years, until they realize how bad they screwed Minmatar and Gallente over with the upcoming patch, then I would choose Caldari.
Amarr is a strong second since they can't miss with their guns. They aren't missiles, but they track so fast that a BS can hit an inty, so Amarr might as well be shooting missiles.
Missiles will be GOD after the speed nerf. Never miss, and everything will be moving too slow to mitigate damage so they will hit for full damage on most targets.
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Khraunus
Amarr Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2008.10.11 18:20:00 -
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Originally by: Neesa Corrinne Amarr is a strong second since they can't miss with their guns. They aren't missiles, but they track so fast that a BS can hit an inty, so Amarr might as well be shooting missiles. [/quote
Really, guy? Are you fitting small beams on that geddon?
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kor anon
Amarr Corporeal utopia for nasty tramps BROTHERS GRIM.
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Posted - 2008.10.11 18:31:00 -
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Anything you want, all races have excellent ships to pvp with plus in another few months another race than amarr will be the race of choice. So pick any race it doesnt really matter and you can always crosstrain later and get those funky faction ships in the process
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Sidus Isaacs
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Posted - 2008.10.11 20:37:00 -
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Originally by: Karentaki
Originally by: Khraunus Caldari.
3 mill SP drake.
You'll be uber after the patch.
QFT
Really, the last few patches have all boosted Caldari, and that trend is likely to continue. They currently have some of the best:
Battlecruisers (Drake) Battleships (Torp Raven) Recons (Falcon)
among others
Funny. When I joind EVE 6 months ago Caldari was referd to as the worst PvP race, and gallante uber. Gallante is still good, caldari are ok, but they do need some loving in general (yes, the Drake and Falcon is good, but that 2 out of many ships).
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Domania
Crete Carrier Corp.
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Posted - 2008.10.11 20:51:00 -
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Amarr! Don't let anyone else fool you otherwise.
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Raymond Sterns
Utopian Research I.E.L. The ENTITY.
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Posted - 2008.10.11 21:22:00 -
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Originally by: Karentaki
Originally by: Khraunus Caldari.
3 mill SP drake.
You'll be uber after the patch.
QFT
Really, the last few patches have all boosted Caldari, and that trend is likely to continue. They currently have some of the best:
Battlecruisers (Drake) Battleships (Torp Raven) Recons (Falcon)
among others
Boo-****ing-hoo? _
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Felix Dzerzhinsky
Caldari Wreckless Abandon G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2008.10.11 22:50:00 -
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Caldari are getting nurfed. ECM is gonna get slammed, Drakes are ok. .. but its a BC - not particularly useful outside of Empire PvP.
Ultimatly its up to how much time you plan to put into the game. . .if you are willing to play for awhile - Amarr start to really shine in higher skill levels. But if you are looking for some pvp before you quit - Caldari will do well. . . but at higher skill levels, you will be disapointed. ----
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Bohoba
Caldari HolyKnights
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Posted - 2008.10.11 23:13:00 -
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Originally by: Karentaki
Originally by: Khraunus Caldari.
3 mill SP drake.
You'll be uber after the patch.
QFT
Really, the last few patches have all boosted Caldari, and that trend is likely to continue. They currently have some of the best:
Battlecruisers (Drake) Battleships (Torp Raven) Recons (Falcon)
among others
Don't know where you got that info from the Cald ships have been nerfed every patch since I have been playing.
FW showed CCP DEV that they went to far and they are an embarrassment to the eve pvp community :) I know I am Cald spec and 5 years war hardened 67mill sp and have flown with and against the best of the best of eve. Cald ships are a joke atm Yes even the chance base ecm falcon it just takes 1 miss jam and your dead such a joke that is.
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Admiral Pelleon
Caldari White Shadow Imperium Conviction.
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Posted - 2008.10.11 23:17:00 -
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Amarr. Good BS, good BC, good recon, good cruiser (arbi at least), good T2 friggies. ________
My views represent the views of my corp, deal with it. |
EnslaverOfMinmatar
Yarsk Hunters DeaDSpace Coalition
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Posted - 2008.10.11 23:52:00 -
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Jovians, cuz they pwn
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Armoured C
Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.10.12 00:07:00 -
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1 word for you
ABSOLUTION!!!!!!
that is all
My new blog here |
Kazuma Saruwatari
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.10.12 00:54:00 -
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Amarr have good above-T1 frigate ships for PvP
Caldari... Falcon, Cerb, rest is deadly in gang, nuff said
Gallente have the neutDomi (nerf I demand!) along with the Thorax (still a good ship) and others
Mimmatar have the Rupture, rapier, Typhoon, Tempest as lower rung PvPable ships...
Normally I'd go of a tangent and do a long writeup on each race as most would percieve them in PvP, but with all the whining on this thread, I'd rather not.
Some of you people need to grow up. -
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Armoured C
Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.10.12 00:56:00 -
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but peter pan told me i never had to
My new blog here |
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