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Bladen Kerst
Caldari
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.10.19 21:13:00 -
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Give approximate number pls
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Kiki Arnolds
Caldari
Allied Caprican Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2008.10.19 21:25:00 -
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There is nothing complex about calculating profit per hour. First max your M^3 per minute, then find the most valuable ore at current market prices etc... There are no hard to find formulas, or tricky equations.
I'm sure you can find threads discussing it, just as I'm sure you could calculate it yourself.
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Bladen Kerst
Caldari
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.10.19 21:36:00 -
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Edited by: Bladen Kerst on 19/10/2008 21:36:15
The problem is I know nothing about mining. I have no skills whatsover. I see people trading hulk ready characters for approximately 2 bils (varies on number of skill points of course) so i have been wandering how many hours it would take for it to pay off, thats it. please spare me some time and effort if you will 
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Chaos Incarnate
Faceless Logistics
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Posted - 2008.10.19 21:41:00 -
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Around 7-8m per hour, I'm guessing
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Bladen Kerst
Caldari
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.10.19 21:45:00 -
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Thank you
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Delta Kiri
Delta Innovative Tech and Cat House
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Posted - 2008.10.19 22:08:00 -
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Today mining veldspar in Korama in Lonetrek I could make 8.5M per hour. That is just selling the ore at an in system station with a buy order. That is a Hulk with T2 strips, T2 veldspar crystals, Exhumer 3 and Mining Foreman 4 bonus.
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Bladen Kerst
Caldari
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.10.19 22:23:00 -
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 Originally by: Delta Kiri
Today mining veldspar in Korama in Lonetrek I could make 8.5M per hour. That is just selling the ore at an in system station with a buy order. That is a Hulk with T2 strips, T2 veldspar crystals, Exhumer 3 and Mining Foreman 4 bonus.
I see thanks a lot. I guess it might be possible to push it to 10 mil with refining and logistics in place then
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Amala Dulvaris
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Posted - 2008.10.20 00:01:00 -
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Well it all depends on skills, ore prices and how far your willing to travel to sell the ore/minerals off to. If your feeling lay and just sell at the local station you will more than likely make less than if your haul it a few jumps away to somewere that is paying that bit more.
Get the standings up over 6.5 I think it is for no tax on the refine with your choice of corp and get your refining skills high and make a perfect refine for more pure profit with zero loss in the refining step, which means more profits and much easier to transport most minerals that way (as opposed to ores in most cases).
If you go to 0.4 sec (Think you can find it in 0.5 sec too but very rare) you can find Jaspet which sells for more than Vald per m3 in most stations.
Do your homework for the location of choice for mining and go from there is my advice, and use the new trade hub thingy that has been brought up over the past few days to get the average prices for the regions you mine in.
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Kirra Liu
Gemini Industries Inc
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Posted - 2008.10.20 05:49:00 -
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-130 mill. Damn CONCORD 
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LiquidSwords
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Posted - 2008.10.20 17:10:00 -
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3 million per hour solo
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The Geoman
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.10.20 17:32:00 -
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Originally by: LiquidSwords
3 million per hour solo
3 mil/hour with a hulk? You'd have to be doing something wrong.
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Faife
Noctiscion
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Posted - 2008.10.20 18:29:00 -
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Originally by: The Geoman
Originally by: LiquidSwords
3 million per hour solo
3 mil/hour with a hulk? You'd have to be doing something wrong.
wat? assume a hulk mining infinite concentrated veldspar rock.
a hulk 12000m^3 cargo hold hulk, doing concentrated veldspar, fills up in ~11 minutes. that gives you 366000 trit per 11 minutes, 1830000 per hour
that sells for around 5m per hour. if you're not optimized to crap and back 3m sounds quite plausible
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LiquidSwords
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Posted - 2008.10.20 18:53:00 -
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You can carry 1.5 million worth of Veld per trip if you get the right rocks and have cargo II's and cargo opt rigs. To make this work you need to get top dollar for the trit (trading hub) and a prefect refine with no taxes. You also need to count the time to and from the station. 3 million sounds right to me
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Leana Darkrider
Daedalus industries
Atrocitas
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Posted - 2008.10.21 06:43:00 -
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with your mining skills maximized, and using t2 stuff on a t2 barge, you would get around 7-8 mil an hour in highsec.
If you go mine in nullsec, it will be around 30-40 mil an hour
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Zifrian
Gallente
Chapter Black
TRUST Coalition
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Posted - 2008.10.21 07:18:00 -
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Originally by: LiquidSwords
You can carry 1.5 million worth of Veld per trip if you get the right rocks and have cargo II's and cargo opt rigs. To make this work you need to get top dollar for the trit (trading hub) and a prefect refine with no taxes. You also need to count the time to and from the station. 3 million sounds right to me
I have T2 strips with T2 veld crystals on a Hulk with max cargo. I can get about 6.5mil an hour with veld. Maybe people have better luck with mining upgrades or have exhumer 5. But that's all I could change to make more yield so I'm not sure what others are doing that is getting them 8mil. Maybe prices are better in their regions.
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Dennmoth Ferdier
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.10.21 12:36:00 -
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Edited by: Dennmoth Ferdier on 21/10/2008 12:37:53
Variables:
Your skills that affect mining yield
fleet booster presence
your fitting on the hulk
implants
whether you refine yourself or not
your skills at refining, the other persons (better) skills at refining
what you mine
where you mine
region sell prices
region buy prices
range to optime sell system
whether you jetcan mine or not
logistic support, doing solo, have an alt, have a friend
size of their/your cargohold
These are what you need to think about when approximating your isk per hour price. Many people think, that the isk per hour you make, is determined only by how fast you can pull ore from the roids in to your can.
In truth, the whole process is mining, hauling, refining (or waiting someone else to refine) then either hauling to a optime sell system, or saving time by putting up an optime sell order and waiting for that to finish, or succumbing to a quick sell on someones buy order which will cut your profits.
Now to actually answer your question, I have almost perfect yield skill-wise (missing exhumers V), I have two mining upgrade IIs, modulated strip miner IIs complete with specific crystal IIs. I have also mining yield boosting implants. I use one char to mine and the same char to haul with an iteron V with 29k cargo space. I don't have a booster, I mine close to a hub system.
I can pull a full can in 15 minutes flat, I havent looked at the prices in a week, but mining veld that means about 2.3 million worth of ore per every 15 min. Times four it's 9.2 million. Reduce the 10 minutes it takes to haul 4 cans (4 trips on a 29k fit iteron V) it comes to be somewhere around 7 million per hour.
But that's just <worth of ore/minerals> sitting in your station. What's left uncalculated is the time you will invest in sell ordering it / hauling it further for optime price. If you quicksell for someones benefit, it will cut your profits most likely to greatly varying degree, but might even be more profitable in some places.
hope this helps you at all.
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UniOne
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.10.21 18:00:00 -
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I'm lvl 3 Exhumers (hulk) with occator alt, and mining foreman IV, jetcan and only mine one type of ore in each belt....
I dont know how many isk i make an hour... lol
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Jonna Andromedae
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Posted - 2008.10.21 19:20:00 -
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Originally by: Leana Darkrider
If you go mine in nullsec, it will be around 30-40 mil an hour
Dream on! First of all best ores are found in 1-3 systems in the region. Secondly there is only few regions wich are secure enough to do continuos mining. Yes you can peak that 30-40 M ISK per hour, like in ratting, but mostly you will be dodging hostiles and founding out that you ran out of ore.
In highsec... You can mine concentrated veldspar continuosly in dozens and dozens 20+ belt systems without any interruption. Then you can refine it easily with zero tax and haul the tritanium where it pays the best.
Highsec mining beats 0.0 mining 100-0.
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Zoran435
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Posted - 2008.10.22 04:24:00 -
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I run mission belts(unauthorized military presence)when you get this one you are good for seven days just don't finish the mission until the seventh day.I run two hulks and one hauler and I can usually do 25-30mill/hr. Depending on ore price in the system.I did 300mill one time all in one day, but there is better and easer way to earn isk once you get to about 1bill. Thinks get simpler.
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Sidrat Flush
Caldari
Life is Experience
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Posted - 2008.10.22 12:24:00 -
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By the sound of it you're looking to buy a mining character.
It could take a few months of full time mining on that character to make your ISK back, and that's running it seven days a week for a few hours at a time. Please note it's not scientific it's not even an estimate it just SOUNDS about right, if the character you buy has great standings with a corporation so you don't lose minerals when you refine for zero waste.
Personally if you haven't done mining before the old saying "try before you buy" fits very well. You may not like mining, even if you can use a second account to do something you actually enjoy you'll still have to baby sit the other character and well it can get boring after a very short amount of time.
Don't mine for ISK, mine for minerals that you can use to build items and ships instead, far more profitable in the long run using researched blueprint copies.
Life is about memories the more the better.
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General Urlana
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Posted - 2008.10.22 12:51:00 -
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In the perfect world and in high sec mining veld you should get about 9m. I have mining foreman 4, exhumers 5, T2 strips, T2 crystals with a hauler and that's about what i can pull from veld alone in highsec.
Yesterday i had a retriever, osprey and my hulk mining for 2 hours and pulled in 25m from veld. Not the greatest return but easy to do
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LordSax7648
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Posted - 2008.10.22 16:49:00 -
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With basic skills and typical settings (station in region) you can generally make 5-8 mil per hour. The wide variance is due to size of roids, price of mins-which can change frequently, taxes etc. As a rule mission running out performs mining for pure isk making. However having a mining alt is convenient as it can provide mins to a manufactoring corp or allows you the option of afk mining when busy with other things. 
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Clair Bear
Coalition of Nations
Free Trade Zone.
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Posted - 2008.10.22 22:24:00 -
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Originally by: Sidrat Flush
Don't mine for ISK, mine for minerals that you can use to build items and ships instead, far more profitable in the long run using researched blueprint copies.
Yes, because everyone knows minerals you mine yourself are free, if used for ships you make yourself. 
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr
Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated
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Posted - 2008.10.22 23:37:00 -
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Wow, mining's really terrible for making isk ;P needs a boost tbh
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Joss Sparq
Caldari
ANZAC ALLIANCE
Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.23 02:45:00 -
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Originally by: Clair Bear
Originally by: Sidrat Flush
Don't mine for ISK, mine for minerals that you can use to build items and ships instead, far more profitable in the long run using researched blueprint copies.
Yes, because everyone knows minerals you mine yourself are free, if used for ships you make yourself.
Shush, if you wake them from their delusion then they'll stop selling things to me at lovely, deflated prices 
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destiny2
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Posted - 2008.10.23 03:40:00 -
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Mackinaw mineing blue ice i can make approx 40-60 mill a day but its boring as hell lol
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Corstaad
Minmatar
Vardr ok Lidskjalv
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Posted - 2008.10.23 03:55:00 -
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Mining High sec for 7m/hr is with atleast a hulk. A hulk needs to be alot of specialized SPs. Those Sps in half the time can do missions for atleast twice the isk and your grouping into a combat toon. AFK mining isn't worth even a alt-tab is annoying.
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Zifrian
Gallente
Chapter Black
TRUST Coalition
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Posted - 2008.10.23 06:13:00 -
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Originally by: destiny2
Mackinaw mineing blue ice i can make approx 40-60 mill a day but its boring as hell lol
That's about 2.5mil an hour. Not the best way to mine for isk. It is easier I guess since the ice blocks never run out. Although it used to be pretty good if I remember right.
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Leana Darkrider
Daedalus industries
Atrocitas
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Posted - 2008.10.23 10:34:00 -
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Originally by: Jonna Andromedae
Originally by: Leana Darkrider
If you go mine in nullsec, it will be around 30-40 mil an hour
Dream on! First of all best ores are found in 1-3 systems in the region. Secondly there is only few regions wich are secure enough to do continuos mining. Yes you can peak that 30-40 M ISK per hour, like in ratting, but mostly you will be dodging hostiles and founding out that you ran out of ore.
In highsec... You can mine concentrated veldspar continuosly in dozens and dozens 20+ belt systems without any interruption. Then you can refine it easily with zero tax and haul the tritanium where it pays the best.
Highsec mining beats 0.0 mining 100-0.
It isn't a dream Jonna.
I know this by own experience.
But it's depended on regional buy & sellorders, logistics and buddies keeping you save from rats.
Highsec mining doesn't beats nullsec mining, just the other way around imo.
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Nabukanozor
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Posted - 2008.10.23 12:05:00 -
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Heya,
I can do between 12 to 15 M per hour mining Kernite depending of market price, doing solo, no hauler, with exhumer 5, 2 x MLU II, Michi and HX-2 implants.
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