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Daelorn
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.10.20 01:15:00 -
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Edited by: Daelorn on 20/10/2008 01:17:40 Evening OOPers,
So when I built my first computer almost a year ago (Holy crap and it still works, well for the most part) I had gotten this RAM.
Well that RAM died twice, not sure why but the second time Corsair told me they discontinued that RAM. Weird since that was in Feb/March and NewEgg still sells it. Anyways after that I got a refund and got this RAM.
So I've been slowly upgrading my system and its time to get 4gb of RAM, now I'm stuck on whether to just get 2gb more of what I have or get something better.
Also I need it to be DDR2, my MoBo is a EVGA 780i, and I want 4GB of RAM, don't worry about price.
I consider I have a decent amount of knowledge about computers but RAM just confuses me, halp
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Ryan Scouse'UK
omen. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.10.20 02:06:00 -
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You want to get DDR3 & check out ur mobo see whats the highest spec it will take, dont worry about overclocking at this moment in time 6GB of ram is well enuff for anyone.
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Daelorn
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.10.20 02:21:00 -
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Originally by: Ryan Scouse'UK You want to get DDR3 & check out ur mobo see whats the highest spec it will take, dont worry about overclocking at this moment in time 6GB of ram is well enuff for anyone.
Uuhhhmm 780i only supports DDR2 otherwise I definitely would of had DDR3 a while ago. 790i is the one that supports DDR3.
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Atomos Darksun
Infortunatus Eventus Obsidian Empire
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Posted - 2008.10.20 02:38:00 -
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This.
And honestly, DDR3 is NOT worth the money. You can get 12 gigs of DDR2 for the price of 4 gigs of DDR3. So until it significantly drops in price it will continue to be not worth it as the performance difference is not big at all.
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Dmian
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2008.10.20 07:46:00 -
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Always look for the list of supported modules, which in your case is this. If possible, try to buy only the recommended modules. About the speed of the memory (1066 MHz, 800 MHz, etc.) it will depend on the speed of your CPU. Your motherboard support modules up to 1066 MHz, but buy memory to match your CPU clock speed (if it's 1066, match that, if it's 800 match it or put something superior, never inferior, since you'll "clock down" your system.) Also, smaller latency numbers (5-5-5-15) means better memory. Regards. ----
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IR Scoutar
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.10.20 07:52:00 -
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this is allmost what i have mine is cl4 runs cool works great
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Recog
Dark Cartel
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Posted - 2008.10.21 00:53:00 -
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Originally by: Dmian Always look for the list of supported modules, which in your case is this. If possible, try to buy only the recommended modules. About the speed of the memory (1066 MHz, 800 MHz, etc.) it will depend on the speed of your CPU. Your motherboard support modules up to 1066 MHz, but buy memory to match your CPU clock speed (if it's 1066, match that, if it's 800 match it or put something superior, never inferior, since you'll "clock down" your system.) Also, smaller latency numbers (5-5-5-15) means better memory. Regards.
Well my CPU has a FSB of 1333 (2.66ghz stock) and is OCed to 3.6ghz which is 450 FSB, so to run in sync I need atleast 900mhz ram correct? Would getting RAM such a 1066mhz cause my NB to run even hotter? I would even push my CPU up toward 4ghz but I'm mosly worried about the NB.
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Stephen HB
Mystical Knights Legionnaire Services Ltd.
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Posted - 2008.10.21 11:50:00 -
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Originally by: Recog Well my CPU has a FSB of 1333 (2.66ghz stock) and is OCed to 3.6ghz which is 450 FSB, so to run in sync I need atleast 900mhz ram correct? Would getting RAM such a 1066mhz cause my NB to run even hotter? I would even push my CPU up toward 4ghz but I'm mosly worried about the NB.
Any part can (almost) always run under spec just fine. If you get 1066 RAM it'll run at 950 easily, and the NB won't automatically jump the FSB to 533 to try and sych it. ----------
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Pwett
Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2008.10.21 15:12:00 -
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Originally by: Daelorn
Well that RAM died twice, not sure why but the second time Corsair told me they discontinued that RAM.
I can tell you why the RAM died. It's pretty simple, because it's called 'Dominator'. That and it's not Kingston. In 25-odd years of building PCs, I've never had a stick of Kingston RAM crap out on me. _______________ Pwett CEO, Founder, & Executor <Q> QUANT Hegemony
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EliteSlave
Minmatar M. Corp Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2008.10.21 15:20:00 -
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Originally by: Pwett
Originally by: Daelorn
Well that RAM died twice, not sure why but the second time Corsair told me they discontinued that RAM.
I can tell you why the RAM died. It's pretty simple, because it's called 'Dominator'. That and it's not Kingston. In 25-odd years of building PCs, I've never had a stick of Kingston RAM crap out on me.
Qouted for Truth, I have never had Kingston crap out on me either..
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supr3m3justic3
Caldari Hakata Group Blade.
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Posted - 2008.10.21 15:51:00 -
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This ____
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Daelorn
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.10.21 17:23:00 -
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Originally by: Pwett
Originally by: Daelorn
Well that RAM died twice, not sure why but the second time Corsair told me they discontinued that RAM.
I can tell you why the RAM died. It's pretty simple, because it's called 'Dominator'. That and it's not Kingston. In 25-odd years of building PCs, I've never had a stick of Kingston RAM crap out on me.
Awww but the RAM is so pretty with its heatsink.Honestly I think the RAM couldn't handle it's own stock timings/voltages (3-4-3-9, 2.4v) that with my CPU OC caused the first set to die after 2 months. The second set a week after I recieved them I was trying to push my CPU to 4ghz and I didn't loosen the RAM timings honestly I didn't know I had to; noob OCing mistake. Then corsair told me this RAM is discontinue, again why I think I couldn't handle it's own stock settings plus lots of other complaints of them breaking.
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Pwett
Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2008.10.22 15:11:00 -
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Aye, lots of 'performance' RAM set their timings a bit higher than they should be. I always prefer to buy notoriously stable RAM and work out my own timings for them, running my own tests. _______________ Pwett CEO, Founder, & Executor <Q> QUANT Hegemony
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Highwind Cid
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Posted - 2008.10.22 16:33:00 -
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Originally by: Pwett
Originally by: Daelorn
Well that RAM died twice, not sure why but the second time Corsair told me they discontinued that RAM.
I can tell you why the RAM died. It's pretty simple, because it's called 'Dominator'. That and it's not Kingston. In 25-odd years of building PCs, I've never had a stick of Kingston RAM crap out on me.
I won't buy anything corsair. I had a 1GB MicroSD crap out and out of the blue a stick of DDR memory on an old machine I built for family. Only piece of RAM I ever crossed that just died after working fine for years. They did however send me a replacement, which was nice of em.
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Bish Ounen
Gallente Omni-Core Freedom Fighters Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2008.10.22 19:26:00 -
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Kingston RAM all the way. It's stable, and compatible with ANY board on the market. Kingston IS the standard when it comes to RAM. Anything else is just fashion.
As far as "overclock-ability" goes; personally I almost never overclock anymore. I used to all the time. Bought big honking heatsinks, fiddled with timings, even considered a liquid cooling rig. Then I stopped, and thought...
Why bother?
With the prices for more and more powerful equipment dropping constantly, and my available time to play games dropping as well, why not just build one super-powerful cutting edge NON overclocked rig every 2-4 years, and have done with it? Let's face it: Even a three year old machine can EASILY play most of the games out today, and since we are all on the EvE forums, we all know for a FACT that a FOUR year old machine can play EvE.
Why bother going to all the risk and trouble to overclock? Just be responsible, and save up cash a bit at a time. If you start saving RIGHT after you buy a new rig, by the time that rig is completely out of date, you will have enough cash to buy another cutting edge rig. If you re-use parts like optical drives, your case, and your hard drives, you can upgrade even earlier.
Unless you are in a real cash crunch there isn't any reason to waste your time and risk your machine with overclocking. Just save up for an upgrade and enjoy your machine as it is. Tactical Logistics using the last T1 Frigate hull!
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ReaperOfSly
Gallente Zetsubou Corp
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Posted - 2008.10.22 19:54:00 -
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Originally by: Bish Ounen Kingston RAM all the way. It's stable, and compatible with ANY board on the market. Kingston IS the standard when it comes to RAM. Anything else is just fashion.
As far as "overclock-ability" goes; personally I almost never overclock anymore. I used to all the time. Bought big honking heatsinks, fiddled with timings, even considered a liquid cooling rig. Then I stopped, and thought...
Why bother?
With the prices for more and more powerful equipment dropping constantly, and my available time to play games dropping as well, why not just build one super-powerful cutting edge NON overclocked rig every 2-4 years, and have done with it? Let's face it: Even a three year old machine can EASILY play most of the games out today, and since we are all on the EvE forums, we all know for a FACT that a FOUR year old machine can play EvE.
Why bother going to all the risk and trouble to overclock? Just be responsible, and save up cash a bit at a time. If you start saving RIGHT after you buy a new rig, by the time that rig is completely out of date, you will have enough cash to buy another cutting edge rig. If you re-use parts like optical drives, your case, and your hard drives, you can upgrade even earlier.
Unless you are in a real cash crunch there isn't any reason to waste your time and risk your machine with overclocking. Just save up for an upgrade and enjoy your machine as it is.
People overclock because it's fun to fiddle with machinery. It's basic human (or maybe just geek) nature to tinker with things. And overclocking isn't as dangerous as it used to be. Theoretically, you CAN fry your components but only if you're really really stupid.
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Bish Ounen
Gallente Omni-Core Freedom Fighters Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2008.10.22 23:19:00 -
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Originally by: ReaperOfSly People overclock because it's fun to fiddle with machinery. It's basic human (or maybe just geek) nature to tinker with things. And overclocking isn't as dangerous as it used to be. Theoretically, you CAN fry your components but only if you're really really stupid.
Oh, I know. As I stated in my post above, I USED to Overclock all the time. I can tell you, I burned out my share of TNT2 cards back in the day. I guess I just grew out of it. When a high-end card costs 200-400 dollars vs 50 to 75, and a new processor almost as much, I'm just not willing to take the risk anymore. That, and the simple fact that NO games are fully utilizing all the power available in a modern dual or quad core processor.
I'm personally still running an AMD 64 3500+ (socket 939) on an Asus A8V Deluxe Mobo with an Nvidia 7600GS AGP. (dual boot, XP and Ubuntu.) Runs Eve Premium just fine (Although I have to turn shadows and Bloom off) and I can play quite a few other games as well. I probably can't run Crysis or Dead Space on full effects, but I CAN play them. Once I've saved up a bit more, I'll be upgrading to a more modern system. But for now, this one works just fine, no overclocking needed. Tactical Logistics using the last T1 Frigate hull!
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