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ChaosOne
Caldari DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.10.27 15:11:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Greyscale
Originally by: Sophie Daigneau
Quote: We've created six new reactions which allow you to create key intermediate materials without relying on the rarest moon minerals.
First we're talking about new reactions to create intermediate materials.
Quote: Let's take ferrogel as an example. Currently it takes 100 hafnium and 100 dysprosium to make 200 ferrogel. With the new reaction, you'll take 100 hafnium and 100 cadmium to make 100 unrefined ferrogel, which can then be refined down to give 10 ferrogel and 95 hafnium. The final ratios at the end of the process see you using 100 cadmium and 5 hafnium to create 10 ferrogel, per cycle. The proportion of hafnium stays the same, but the amount of cadmium is 20 times the amount of dysprosium you'd normally use per unit, and it takes ten times longer to make 1000 units of ferrogel.
Then you are talking about turning 2 common raw minerals into an advanced material.
Quote: The four pairings are cadmium/dysprosium, vanadium/thulium, chromium/promethium and platinum/neodymium. The final output of each of the reactions will be ten units per cycle, and the common mineral always replaces the mineral at a 20:1 ratio.
Then down here it sounds like you are turning a common rare mineral into a rare raw mineral. Did you actually mean to say ferrofluid instead of ferrogel in the second quote? That would seem to make more sense, especially since there are six intermediate reactions that require the rare minerals.
WHOOPS.
Fixed
Good to see that the devs dont perhaps have a grasp on moon mining....
Whats the point in keeping everything the same. some of the higher ends like thulium and neodryium have very little use. |
ChaosOne
Caldari DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.10.27 15:38:00 -
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could a dev please reply and state how the unrefined reaction to make Fluxed condensates is going to work??
It uses both Neodymium and thulium...
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ChaosOne
Caldari DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.10.27 16:19:00 -
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Edited by: ChaosOne on 27/10/2008 16:20:56
Originally by: CCP Fallout *pokes her head in*
Guys, let's keep this discussion civil and on topic please. This is an interesting change to our economy, so let's focus on that rather than name calling and such.
Thanks :)
The problem is the changes are ill thought out.
A simpler solution would be a new reaction to make the higher end moon minerals
e.g (not neccesarily in this order) atmospheric gases + cadmium + caesium = Dysprosium evaporite + chromium + hafnium = Promethium hydrocarbons + platinum + mercury = neodryium silicates + vanadium + technium = thulium
ineffect 1 of each of the lower tiers moon materials to make a high end material
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ChaosOne
Caldari DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.10.27 16:29:00 -
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Originally by: ChaosOne could a dev please reply and state how the unrefined reaction to make Fluxed condensates is going to work??
It uses both Neodymium and thulium...
i see dev replys here. Can one of you explain the above.....
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ChaosOne
Caldari DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.10.29 03:01:00 -
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Edited by: ChaosOne on 29/10/2008 03:04:20 I have a solution to the problem. after looking at the simple/complex reactions i've concluded that a 20th simple reaction is needed. Currently thulim and technium are used in only 1 simple reaction so these 2 can be paired making the new simple reaction.
Then replace dysproite with the new simple reaction from the hypersynaptic fibers complex reaction.
Net result would be dysporiosium used in 2 complex reactions from 3 decreasing the demand by 1/3rd and in turn the cost, promethium remaining static. Thulium and neodryium would then have more of a use.
I believe these changes would have only a minimal effect on manufactoring whilst keeping the value of the moons at a decent level.
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