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Nexus Kinnon
Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2009.02.25 19:26:00 -
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WOAH IT'S ALMOST LIKE NONE OF YOU READ THE ****ING OP I have no problem killing Falcons, I've killed four falcons in the past four days.
Originally by: Sol'Kanar I am the spermicidal cream to your semen of lies.
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Fullmetal Jackass
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Posted - 2009.02.26 06:21:00 -
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Originally by: Nexus Kinnon I have no problem killing Falcons, I've killed four falcons in the past four days.
So why do they need to be changed?
I see: "The Idea", The bonuses", "The numbers", and "The edits" but I don't see "The why".
Where's the why if you can kill them just fine?
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AshtarDJ
Filthy Scum Scum Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.26 08:44:00 -
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Originally by: Fullmetal Jackass So why do they need to be changed?
Falcons are no problem in big blob parties, but a huge problem for small gang engagements. One falcon can easily keep 4 ppl jammed for pretty much an entire fight and in small gangs you rly can't afford to have specific "anti-falcon" ppl. ECCM as they are today aren't really very helpful.
No one is complaining about Rooks or Scorpions, since they often need to fit other stuff then ECM (like a bit of tank, mwd, etc) they are not as powerful as falcons, that can use all mids, lows and rig slots for ECM + have the stealh element.
I myself fly falcons a LOT, but I will he honest and say that I hate it. The only reason I do it is because it is the only effective counter to our enemies falcons in small gang engagements. Falcons need a nerf bat hit, not a big one, but still something needs to be done.
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Nexus Kinnon
Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2009.02.26 13:44:00 -
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Originally by: Fullmetal Jackass
Originally by: Nexus Kinnon I have no problem killing Falcons, I've killed four falcons in the past four days.
So why do they need to be changed?
I see: "The Idea", The bonuses", "The numbers", and "The edits" but I don't see "The why".
Where's the why if you can kill them just fine?
Because my play style allows me and the guys I fly with to kill them easily, since we mostly fly interceptors/AFs/frigates. The people who specialise in battleships have no such flexibility or speed.
Originally by: Sol'Kanar I am the spermicidal cream to your semen of lies.
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Nexus Kinnon
Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2009.02.26 13:45:00 -
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For example, the way that we kill falcons just wouldn't work in empire war, or versus gatecamps without risking the battleships too much.
Originally by: Sol'Kanar I am the spermicidal cream to your semen of lies.
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Fullmetal Jackass
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Posted - 2009.03.01 11:43:00 -
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Edited by: Fullmetal Jackass on 01/03/2009 11:44:16
Originally by: Nexus Kinnon For example, the way that we kill falcons just wouldn't work in empire war, or versus gatecamps without risking the battleships too much.
A sniper BS can't throw in even a single ECCM mod?
No one in said sniper BS's gang could possibly fit a remote ECCM or two?
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Cohkka
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2009.03.01 12:38:00 -
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Originally by: Fullmetal Jackass Bring a sniper, or bring your own ecm. It doesn't take a falcon to hit a falcon, there are plenty of ships that can reach out and touch one.
Sniper BS doesn't work. It'll just warp away (or in case it has the gate BMed it'll just warp to the next 200km spot) and jam your gang again, and again. You'll have to have several sniper fitted BS to bring it down.
The "bring your own Falcon" crap doesn't need further comments, it speaks volumes of the problem itself.
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Fullmetal Jackass
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Posted - 2009.03.02 09:48:00 -
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Originally by: Cohkka Sniper BS doesn't work. It'll just warp away (or in case it has the gate BMed it'll just warp to the next 200km spot) and jam your gang again, and again. You'll have to have several sniper fitted BS to bring it down.
The "bring your own Falcon" crap doesn't need further comments, it speaks volumes of the problem itself.
If the falcon warps off, he's not jamming you is he.
Sniper battleships, have the same range as falcons. If he can jam you, you can hit him.
Bring a scorp then, or a rook, even a blackbird can be fitted for that kind of range.
The Lachesis or Arazu, if fit correctly, can chace off or even kill long range ecm ships.
If they have bookmarks, then good for them. Home court advantage. You can make bookmarks ahead of time as well. If they don't have bookmarks then they probably wont be hitting you from thier max range will they? You all act like every falcon out there engages from exactly the edge of thier optimal.
Caldari ships, for the most part, suck balls at pvp. Missiles blow. Range isn't usually useful. Rails aren't exactly powerful. Shield tanking and tackle don't work together. Neither does e-war and shield tanking.
One ship comes out as effective with a combination of caldari strong points and you all wanna nerf it to hell.
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Easley Thames
The Maverick Navy PuPPet MasTers
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Posted - 2009.03.26 10:38:00 -
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This is brilliant. I really feel this is the best way to balance the falcon without crippling it. As a bonus it makes the rook finally shine like it should.
This is a delicate approach that I honestly think will improve the game.
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Robert Caldera
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Posted - 2009.03.26 12:45:00 -
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Originally by: Cohkka Sniper BS doesn't work. It'll just warp away (or in case it has the gate BMed it'll just warp to the next 200km spot) and jam your gang again, and again. You'll have to have several sniper fitted BS to bring it down.
sounds like he was doing his job well.
What special efforts to take him down allow you to claim the right to kill a long range ECM ship easily??
If he is jumping between 200km spots you just shoot him again.
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