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Chimii Lecto
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Posted - 2008.11.03 13:24:00 -
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Was messing around in eft.
How would you kill off a ship like this?
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Danny Altenburg
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Posted - 2008.11.03 13:29:00 -
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Originally by: Chimii Lecto Was messing around in eft.
How would you kill off a ship like this?
Neut it.
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Nexus Kinnon
Neo Spartans
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Posted - 2008.11.03 13:32:00 -
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Wait for it to run out of cap charges in like 3-4mins time?
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Lord Pestilence
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Posted - 2008.11.03 13:39:00 -
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Neut and RR
No biggie
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Chimii Lecto
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Posted - 2008.11.03 13:48:00 -
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Single guardian in dock range should take care of your neuts quite easily.
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Cpt Branko
Surge.
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Posted - 2008.11.03 13:56:00 -
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Neut abbaddon with 8 neuts + something else?
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Cpt Branko
Surge.
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Posted - 2008.11.03 13:57:00 -
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Originally by: Chimii Lecto Single guardian in dock range should take care of your neuts quite easily.
1 neut abbadon, 1 gank mega, 3 falcons to jam your guardian, your nightmare, and your falcon alt?
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Dr Sheepbringer
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Posted - 2008.11.03 14:06:00 -
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When in doubt...neut it.
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Stork DK
Minmatar Synthetic Frontiers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.03 14:23:00 -
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Pretty much impossible to take out solo.
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ctttttttt
Caldari THE FINAL STAND
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Posted - 2008.11.03 14:55:00 -
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guy in my corp had pretty much that set-up... died to neuts in less than a minute.
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Nebula Violet
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Posted - 2008.11.03 15:17:00 -
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sorry noob question what is "neuts"
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Ecatherina W
Gallente Dromedary Goat Albatross and Fish Big Bang Quantum
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Posted - 2008.11.03 15:29:00 -
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Bring it to the next Agony Unleashed basic class and see it melt to t1 frigs?
Kath
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Dasalt Istgut
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Posted - 2008.11.03 16:05:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Branko
Originally by: Chimii Lecto Single guardian in dock range should take care of your neuts quite easily.
1 neut abbadon, 1 gank mega, 3 falcons to jam your guardian, your nightmare, and your falcon alt?
Overkill. Neut domi + racial scorp.
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Darkopteron
DIE WITH HONOUR
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Posted - 2008.11.03 16:19:00 -
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Originally by: Nebula Violet sorry noob question what is "neuts"
Energy neutralizers.
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Acedias
Infusion. G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2008.11.03 19:46:00 -
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Neutrals. (I hate those filthy neutrals, Kif)
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Bosie
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.11.03 22:21:00 -
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Jam you and your escort with a Falcon or two then wait for your heat usage to break all your mid slots then ask for a lot of ISK to let you go.
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Cpt Branko
Surge.
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Posted - 2008.11.03 22:22:00 -
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Originally by: Bosie Jam you and your escort with a Falcon or two then wait for your heat usage to break all your mid slots then ask for a lot of ISK to let you go.
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RedMage
Black Rabbits
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Posted - 2008.11.03 22:38:00 -
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That ship doesn't have much of a tank since it's using it's whole cap to boost.
Shoot at it. Energy Neutralizers will **** it. 1 curse could hold out vs this. Also, it would most likely Tracking Disrupt it to oblivion.
ECM would also **** it, so a black bird and a battle cruiser would take it out in about 5 minutes.
Altho for ****s and giggles... t1 ewar gang would prolly take about 7 minutes to get it. (Blackbird, Celestes, Bellicose, Arbitrator)
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Cpt Branko
Surge.
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Posted - 2008.11.03 22:45:00 -
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Originally by: RedMage That ship doesn't have much of a tank since it's using it's whole cap to boost.
Shoot at it. Energy Neutralizers will **** it. 1 curse could hold out vs this. Also, it would most likely Tracking Disrupt it to oblivion.
ECM would also **** it, so a black bird and a battle cruiser would take it out in about 5 minutes.
Altho for ****s and giggles... t1 ewar gang would prolly take about 7 minutes to get it. (Blackbird, Celestes, Bellicose, Arbitrator)
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RedMage
Black Rabbits
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Posted - 2008.11.03 23:06:00 -
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Edited by: RedMage on 03/11/2008 23:13:10
Originally by: Cpt Branko
Originally by: RedMage
ECM would also **** it, so a black bird and a battle cruiser would take it out in about 5 minutes.
Altho for ****s and giggles... t1 ewar gang would prolly take about 7 minutes to get it. (Blackbird, Celestes, Bellicose, Arbitrator)
Out of morbid curiosity, Bellicose?
Well one, you need one to have a t1 ewar cruiser gang. Like voltron, you just need the fisty redone. Second, Belicose, in this gang setup is the danger card. All the other ships are predictable: Celest(Damp), Arbitrator(heavy drone dmg/Tracking Disrupt), Blackbird(ECM for you and your momma).
TP is useless if on ly shooting heavy missles from you and your gangmates. However it gets a little ROF, 40m3 drone. So you can bust out 250dps easy, or go a bit lower and run ewar drones. What Interceptor trouble? 2 drone navs and 2 drone range mods go nice w/ warrior IIs and 3 artys. You'd be surprised how many interceptors don't know what drones can do out of a tight space on a utility ship.
Oh i was wrong you can push 290 dps out of it w/ my skills and cheap implants.
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Soban Vuex
Bulgarian Mafia Squad
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Posted - 2008.11.04 00:30:00 -
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Like this one, they die. they all die and for a solo-pwn-overkill hm.... - a thanatos with 1 neut will drop it like a brick
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Eve Noir
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Posted - 2008.11.04 01:12:00 -
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Originally by: Chimii Lecto Was messing around in eft.
How would you kill off a ship like this?
With Zuluparks Tempest
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BiggestT
Caldari Space Oddysey Pupule 'Ohana
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Posted - 2008.11.04 04:55:00 -
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Originally by: Chimii Lecto Was messing around in eft.
How would you kill off a ship like this?
ecm, neuts and a cpl hacs :) EVE history
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Barsexual
Castle Greyskull
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Posted - 2008.11.04 06:41:00 -
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falcon + neut domi.
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Mankirks Wife
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Posted - 2008.11.04 08:14:00 -
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Originally by: ctttttttt guy in my corp had pretty much that set-up... died to neuts in less than a minute.
This. Neuts tend not be something you really think about until you have the wonderful experience of a Cursing sucking your cap dry in seconds and all you can do is watch while your ship disintegrates.
Best an experience had in something a bit cheaper than this, though. Buffer > any kind of active tank, in pvp. ---
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oodin
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.11.04 08:38:00 -
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dont kill dhb wildcat ffs
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Artemis Rose
Varion Galactic Accord Corporate Enterprise Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.11.04 09:19:00 -
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Station camping Moros with some heavy neuts?
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Demeterus
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Posted - 2008.11.04 10:09:00 -
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A Curse with a heavy unstable power fluctuator (can't remember the exact name) can kill that thing from 75km away while the pulse lasers have an optimal of 15 km. Yes, that's a battleship size neut, and yes the Curse can be cap stable with it. It's just to send in the drones.
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Rexthor Hammerfists
Rage of Inferno
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Posted - 2008.11.05 00:00:00 -
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A curse with neuts and tracking disrupts could solo it -
Boosters and PirateProfessions
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Waiting4ambulation
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Posted - 2008.11.15 16:39:00 -
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I say we take off and neut it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
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Tac Ginaz
Gallente Coalition of Nations
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Posted - 2008.11.16 05:23:00 -
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Edited by: Tac Ginaz on 16/11/2008 05:24:42 I'd say with a scorpion fitted for a suicide attempt. It has a decent chance 1-1 to succeed.
[Scorpion, Banzai!] Signal Distortion Amplifier II Reactor Control Unit II Damage Control II Signal Distortion Amplifier II
Racial ECM II Racial ECM II Racial ECM II Tracking Disruptor II Tracking Disruptor II Target Painter II Warp Disruptor II 100MN Afterburner II
Siege Missile Launcher II, T2 Fury Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, T2 Fury Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, T2 Fury Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, T2 Fury Torpedo Heavy Nosferatu II Heavy Nosferatu II
Drones: 5 Light T2 2 Webber Drones
True, the damage on this thing is miserable, but thats not the point of it. To defeat that ship, the Scorpion must ensure that the enemy ship is perma-jammed (which is why it has 2 signal distortion amps in lows on top of the scorpion's bonuses) so it cannot drain or shoot at him.
Use the light drones to kill his drones off then deploy the webbers.
It has the AB and the tracking disruptors for that time when the jammers do fail, the Scorpion will be very hard to track and hit (saves it from about 2 salvos worth from that ship..enough for the jammers to re-jam the ship.
Orbiting at 22km+ so the enemy's webber cannot lock him all the while the scorpion's webber drones web him down..and to remain at the extreme edge of this ship's weapons falloff + staying inside the 24km range of its own warp disruptor....
the scorpion's main goal will be to simply run him out of cap boosters. He can have as much fancy gear in it, but once those boosters are gone this ship is toast.
and I bet this scorpion with a cargohold full of t2 torpedoes can last longer than his cap booster charges.
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Robert0288
Caldari g guild Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2008.11.16 07:48:00 -
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personally I'm not quite sure. Your only defence lies within you 3 racial jammers. If you don't know what you up against thats a 25% chance you don't have the right jammers for the target, if that jam cycle fails you have to wait 30 ish seconds for it to try again. During that time you have no defences, and no additionall resists.
If you are going to take this this... thing, on 1v1, your best bet is to bring friends. The real world isn't fair, especially if your oponent brings a couple billion+ worth of isk to fight you.
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Shadow's Caress
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Posted - 2008.11.16 20:50:00 -
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Bhaalgorn.
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ThaDollaGenerale
The Priory
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Posted - 2008.11.17 05:00:00 -
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1) Neut it, web it, jam it.
2) Rub myself in my pants pocket for when it pops and the loot drops.
3) Scoop loot, continue rubbing.
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Katarlia Simov
Minmatar Cowboys From Hell
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Posted - 2008.12.25 11:21:00 -
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I don't think anything except something similarly expencively outfitted would be able to take this solo. But I'd bet that a domi and any damage ship could take it, even just with normalish cost fittings.
If you knew what you were fighting tho, a couple of tracking disrutpors with optimal scripts will make you absolutely useless.
Since your tank is cap boosted, you will eventually die and without any dps you are a sitting duck.
If i HAD to come up with something that would screw around with you real good and that was really cheap... well ... neut phoon and a sentinal ?
Sentinal orbits outside nos range, the phoon slaps his neuts on you and once you're out of cap goes to work with torps or projectiles. Job done. Comedy kill mail.
Sadly its a bit of an artificial situation, but then again so is saying 'what could beat this' becuase for the cost of your set-up you could bring a caps FFS.
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Commander Yassir
The Seven Sins
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Posted - 2008.12.25 13:58:00 -
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Carrier, with nuets, nuff said. ~ The man who smiles when things go wrong has thought of someone to blame it on. |
Akiba Penrose
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Posted - 2008.12.26 15:14:00 -
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2 x Curse or even Pilgrims should do it fairly easy. Taking it down solo looks kinda hard tho
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DaDutchDude
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.12.27 02:22:00 -
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EFT warriors FTL!
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Ancy Denaries
Caldari Solaris Operations
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Posted - 2008.12.29 05:57:00 -
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Considering that the dude spent everything he and his mother owns to fit that ship...I'd say a lawsuit would work fine.
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Dal Thrax
Multiverse Corporation
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Posted - 2008.12.29 06:30:00 -
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With the amount of ISK tied up in that ship, calling in multiple Titans to DDD it wouldn't be out of line.
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Glach Duwat
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Posted - 2008.12.30 15:39:00 -
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Originally by: Waiting4ambulation I say we take off and neut it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
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Opertone
Caldari SIEGE. The Border Patrol
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Posted - 2008.12.31 05:31:00 -
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3 stupid sentiels with tracking disruptors and neuts will do a short work of it
the electronic attack frigates -> tested against all ammar BS >>> wins
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