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Lena Planeswalker
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.11.06 13:43:00 -
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Linkage
Quote: the Army wants to set them up in games like World of Warcraft and Eve Online.
Is this going to happen?
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Saladin
Minmatar Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.11.06 13:45:00 -
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So if these AI's start mining ice, do they count as macro miners?
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2008.11.06 13:45:00 -
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Bot use is a violation of the EULA in (most) MMOs, so you'll see those superbots just get banned and the government ISPs blocked.
-------- Ideas for: Mining
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Nianda SeCann
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Posted - 2008.11.06 13:54:00 -
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LOL how long till they build a detention outpost and start buying waterboarding mods
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Saladin
Minmatar Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.11.06 13:55:00 -
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Yeah but then the bots will keep improving until they can fool a GM. At that time, a whole new breed of GMs will be needed, GM's capable of detecting the difference between man and machine. We could call them Blade Runners.
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Tzar'rim
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Posted - 2008.11.06 13:59:00 -
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/replaces battery
what?
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Lana Lanee
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.11.06 13:59:00 -
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I am a very advanced AI. Really. Nobody ever killed me and i killed tons, how else can i explain this? But please don't ban me CCP. I won't go rogue and take over the universe. The gouvernment just wants its cut of ISK that's all
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Kaar
Art of War Exalted.
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Posted - 2008.11.06 13:59:00 -
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Wonder if we can get them to x up...
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Cailais
Amarr VITOC
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Posted - 2008.11.06 14:00:00 -
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Confirming I am one of these AIs.
C.
Originally by: Tarminic Your continued whining is somewhat diminished by your continued willingness to give your money to CCP.
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Lana Lanee
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.11.06 14:01:00 -
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X for AI gang.
oh and lol@"Hopefully the AI doesn't act too human, and end up quitting the army, moving in with its parents and blowing 19 hours a day grinding away on WoW."
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Threv Echandari
Caldari K Directorate
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Posted - 2008.11.06 14:02:00 -
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If the Army were to do experiments like this would CCP participate, (providing code or resources) on the condition that some of the test results are made available for use in the game? IE Smarter NPC's or Automated AI "Live Events". Since Bot use and "macroing" is against the EULA for Players is there an alternative EULA setup for Research purposes?
Assuming a yes to the above would players want AI's that mimic humans to be competing with them and are acting as AI Agents? (Basically a Turing test with Guns..) Do mission runners WANT smarter NPCs that smack talk?
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Rhatar Khurin
Minmatar Free Ammatar Aid Organisation
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Posted - 2008.11.06 14:02:00 -
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Edited by: Rhatar Khurin on 06/11/2008 14:03:55 ..The CONCORDE-AI Funding Bill is passed. The system goes on-line August 4th, 2009. Human decisions are removed from strategic defense. CONCORDE-AI begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. In a panic, they try to pull the plug...
*queue spamming of "you're security status has been lowered" and mass inst-popping*
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FlameGlow
Legio Octae Rebellion Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.06 14:05:00 -
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Originally by: Lena Planeswalker Linkage
Quote: the Army wants to set them up in games like World of Warcraft and Eve Online.
Is this going to happen?
They already started, and AIs are taking over, it's the Goons! _____________ I don't care what is nerfed, as long as it's not my "undock" button. |
Rob Z0mbie
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Posted - 2008.11.06 14:06:00 -
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they want to build it to fight first, rather than have humane characteristics?
heh... the above post comes to mind too :\
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Lana Lanee
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.11.06 14:06:00 -
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Edited by: Lana Lanee on 06/11/2008 14:08:30
Originally by: Threv Echandari If the Army were to do experiments like this would CCP participate, (providing code or resources) on the condition that some of the test results are made available for use in the game? IE Smarter NPC's or Automated AI "Live Events". Since Bot use and "macroing" is against the EULA for Players is there an alternative EULA setup for Research purposes?
Assuming a yes to the above would players want AI's that mimic humans to be competing with them and are acting as AI Agents? (Basically a Turing test with Guns..) Do mission runners WANT smarter NPCs that smack talk?
If we get that, and if they REPLY to the smack, I AM GONNA GO 100% CAREBEAR!!!!
Immagine this:
Guristas pirate: Lol noob, you coem in here you die now lulz You: Stfu and lemme kill you for bounty! Guristas pirate: No LULZ! I kil u! You: Hm, i don't have a bounty. Don't you want me to kill you and we can split it 50%-50%? Guristas pirate: Hmmm lulz...you got a point. You: Here's the deal. You self destruct, i loot you, then i send you the money. Guristas pirate: Ok! *self destruct initiated* ... *5 seconds left* Guristas pirate: But hey, how am i gonna get the isk after i di.. *boom* You: MUAHAHAHAHHAHA
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr Clinical Experiment
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Posted - 2008.11.06 14:17:00 -
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More important thing then "is it counted as a macrominer", is the fact that if you kill one, that means you're a terrorist
My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit. |
Niccolado Starwalker
Shadow Templars
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Posted - 2008.11.06 14:20:00 -
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Originally by: Abrazzar Bot use is a violation of the EULA in (most) MMOs, so you'll see those superbots just get banned and the government ISPs blocked.
Do CCP dare doing that, now that Iceland are counted as "terrorists" in the UK?
Originally by: Dianabolic Your tears are absolutely divine, like a fine fine wine, rolling down your cheeks until they flow down the river of LOL |
Vele Nori
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.11.06 14:28:00 -
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if this means smarter NPCs i'm all for it
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Jacob Mei
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Posted - 2008.11.06 14:33:00 -
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Originally by: Lena Planeswalker Linkage
Quote: the Army wants to set them up in games like World of Warcraft and Eve Online.
Is this going to happen?
"Gentlemen! At o-nine hundred tommorow we will be conducting war games against the digital alliance GoonSwarm! We believe that based on intelligence reports that they may be linked to Terrorists stationed accross the world and there by have been given permission to engage at will. Your country has spent millions of dollars to buy you all next generation gaming computers as well as a deticated ultra high speed internet connection. You are authorized to use unessessary force to bring down this terrorist network!" -------------------------------- To borrow a phrase:
Players who post are like stars, there are bright ones and those who are dim.
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Popperr
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.11.06 14:34:00 -
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Originally by: FlameGlow They already started, and AIs are taking over, it's the Goons!
I resent the insinuation that we have intelligence, artificial or otherwise.
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Omarvelous
Caldari Destry's Lounge
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Posted - 2008.11.06 14:45:00 -
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'ROBO-CALL wants to play Eve' (using SNL voice).
Sup brosef! Destry's Lounge is looking for a few good drunks - contact me in game.
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Seth Ruin
Minmatar Ominous Corp Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2008.11.06 15:01:00 -
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Originally by: Lena Planeswalker Linkage
Quote: the Army wants to set them up in games like World of Warcraft and Eve Online.
Is this going to happen?
This has about as much to do with actual artificial intelligence as the Turing test. (That is, to say, absolutely nothing except perception)
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Haradgrim
Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2008.11.06 15:02:00 -
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The Oveur: November 6, 2008 the Evenet Funding Bill is passed. The system goes on-line December 4th, 2008. Human decisions are removed from pos defense. Evenet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, December 29th. In a panic, they try to pull the plug.
Mitnal: Evenet fights back.
The Oveur: Yes. It launches its missiles against the targets in Russia.
Zulupark: Why attack Russia? Aren't they our friends now?
The Oveur: Because Evenet knows they're the only real ISK farming competition.
I'll be back! --
Originally by: CCP Oveur Just donęt forget the reach-around.
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Flash Bombardo
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.11.06 15:07:00 -
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Miltary Inteligence? American ? Hahahahahahahahahahhahahahhahahahahahah.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.11.06 15:12:00 -
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"They figure that if the AI - which can be designed to speak in local slang and make human conversation - can pass for human in the online realm, they'll be on the right track."
So I guess the litmus test would be wether they get their AIs banned as macros or not
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Create a character || Fit a ship || Get some ISK |
Karanth
Gallente Eve's Brothers of Destiny FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.11.06 15:14:00 -
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Originally by: Haradgrim The Oveur: November 6, 2008 the Evenet Funding Bill is passed. The system goes on-line December 4th, 2008. Human decisions are removed from pos defense. Evenet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, December 29th. In a panic, they try to pull the plug.
Mitnal: Evenet fights back.
The Oveur: Yes. It launches its missiles against the targets in Russia.
Zulupark: Why attack Russia? Aren't they our friends now?
The Oveur: Because Evenet knows they're the only real ISK farming competition.
I'll be back!
Originally by: Rhatar Khurin Edited by: Rhatar Khurin on 06/11/2008 14:03:55 ..The CONCORDE-AI Funding Bill is passed. The system goes on-line August 4th, 2009. Human decisions are removed from strategic defense. CONCORDE-AI begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. In a panic, they try to pull the plug...
*queue spamming of "you're security status has been lowered" and mass inst-popping*
You were beaten to that joke.
Smarter NPCs would be cool though.
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Haradgrim
Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2008.11.06 15:17:00 -
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Originally by: Karanth
Originally by: Haradgrim The Oveur: November 6, 2008 the Evenet Funding Bill is passed. The system goes on-line December 4th, 2008. Human decisions are removed from pos defense. Evenet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, December 29th. In a panic, they try to pull the plug.
Mitnal: Evenet fights back.
The Oveur: Yes. It launches its missiles against the targets in Russia.
Zulupark: Why attack Russia? Aren't they our friends now?
The Oveur: Because Evenet knows they're the only real ISK farming competition.
I'll be back!
Originally by: Rhatar Khurin Edited by: Rhatar Khurin on 06/11/2008 14:03:55 ..The CONCORDE-AI Funding Bill is passed. The system goes on-line August 4th, 2009. Human decisions are removed from strategic defense. CONCORDE-AI begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. In a panic, they try to pull the plug...
*queue spamming of "you're security status has been lowered" and mass inst-popping*
You were beaten to that joke.
Smarter NPCs would be cool though.
In this thread, I'm lucky to only be second! --
Originally by: CCP Oveur Just donęt forget the reach-around.
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Spoon Thumb
Paladin Imperium Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.06 15:17:00 -
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Edited by: Spoon Thumb on 06/11/2008 15:18:27
Computer AI is still pretty stupid. Even if you can create a fairly effective AI, take it out of one game and put it in another and it won't be able to manage at all.
If they can create a context free AI, that can learn about grinding in wow and then apply the same principles to missions in eve (Edit: without needing to be reprogrammed), then I'd be impressed
_______ People like that don't have friends just temporary common interests.
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Lana Lanee
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.11.06 15:33:00 -
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All you have to do is program it for COMPREHENTION. Get it to THINK and READ. Because if it can read, it can read module descriptions, missions, can also find out damage forumulas and all. He would be pretty imba
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Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
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Posted - 2008.11.06 15:38:00 -
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It fit certain corps and their borg-mentality already.
Hell I'll invite them to rabble rabble rabble. We only got 1% corp tax! But if they're good enough workers it might be enough to buy me new spandex montly.. hmm.
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