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Chaos Incarnate
Faceless Logistics
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Posted - 2008.11.07 06:38:00 -
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Originally by: Jack Gilligan
SOE.
See the Star Wars Galaxies "Combat Downgrade" which was tied to an expansion, then to do one better they forced the "New Game Excrement" on us days after charging us for the next expansion 6 months later.
I don't like a lot of these changes either, they reek of "Combat Downgrade" but not quite a "New Game Excrement".
I invoke Tarminic's Law, and demand you support your claims with verification post-patch or permanently resign from the forums _____________________
The unofficial faceless Achura alt of EVE Online
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Pliauga
Gallente Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2008.11.07 06:58:00 -
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Originally by: Dez Affinity
Originally by: Pliauga
Activation timers
Unneeded, really has no effect on anything.
I beg to differ, very needed, especially for ultra tight cap management. This will allow me to activate my modules with precise timing making sure my cap usage is as close to 100% spot on as humanly possible. This idea had been tossed around the features and ideas forums for a while now.
Originally by: Dez Affinity
Originally by: Pliauga
Orca
It's a nerf to can flipping for those who refuse to GSC mine basically. Not to mention it only caters for miners and even most miners aren't too thrilled.
Havn't heard those arguments before. But I dable in industry a bit, and I'm sure as hell am getting one.
Originally by: Dez Affinity
Originally by: Pliauga
Medals Certificates
Is this a joke? Guild Wars had titles years ago. XBox Live has had achievements for a long time. WoW's got them too.
Medals, mean nothing, they are given to players by players. I could give myself the "BEST PVPER IN EVE LOL" medal but it doesn't mean shi.
Medals are worth as much as the imersion level of the people that isue them. They are for player interaction and RP. You made a good point, there will no doubt be ALOT of useless medals being issued. But the way I understand it, if lets say a FC of a well know PvP centric corp receives a medal from the CEO of the said corp noting the FCs' skill, that could mean something (for the FC, if he decides to leave and join another alliance where he is not so well known). Especially if that same medal is only issued to few others (also noted FCs). Bottom line: Most medals won't mean crap, but some will be priceless. (remember, eve community is the most mature of most MMOs, as unbelievable as that may sometimes seem)
And as for certs, that's new player experience. Not a ground breaking inovation (as are the rest of these things), but something that might come in handy.
But my point is this: this expansion would barely go as a patch in my book, but it's by no means a nerf.
Darwin is watching you...
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goodby4u
Valor Inc.
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Posted - 2008.11.07 06:58:00 -
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WIN.
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Nikla Uthaan
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Posted - 2008.11.07 07:36:00 -
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ITT: Another person who'd rather +2 Warp Core Stab on a blockade runner, and believes the ability to fit a Covops Cloak and use Covert Jumps is a "nerf"
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SSgt Sniper
Gallente MAIDS
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Posted - 2008.11.07 07:48:00 -
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Originally by: Nikla Uthaan ITT: Another person who'd rather +2 Warp Core Stab on a blockade runner, and believes the ability to fit a Covops Cloak and use Covert Jumps is a "nerf"
It is and it isn't.
The people who are crying nerf expect it to be immediately bumped and tackled any time they need the covops cloak. Which as a hauler isn't the most nimble thing in the world, is true. In 0.0 bubbles. Everywhere else, empire, lowsec, it is just barely nimble enough that mostly, it should be able to get away. Especially lowsec as the ships that can tank gate guns tend to be less nimble than most haulers excepting the amarr ones.
This all works right up until every pirate camp has alty mcaltperson in fast friggie to do nothing but bump cloakers and never shoot at them. Making the gate guns not a worry as it never actually agressed anything. ------- CEO of Maids. No I didn't pick the name. I've grown rather fond of it though.Poor PR in progress!
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Daevonar
Minmatar Starfish Operating Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.11.07 08:36:00 -
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Yawn... flamebait thread Dae.
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Gawain Hill
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Posted - 2008.11.07 09:36:00 -
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ok with around 100km3 of usable cargo space including corp hanger the orca is a good hauler and is also a good ship to have around on mining op's to save having a half dozen people hauling. It in no was has any effect on any other part of industry freighters are still better at moving lots of things from A to B. The orca is a mining ship not an industry ship. This industry patch has nothing industrial in at at all
Quote: Industry:the people or companies engaged in a particular kind of commercial enterprise; "each industry has its own trade publications"
the organized action of making of goods and services for sale; "American industry is making increased use of computers to control production"
stacklessIO and eve64 were released a while ago speed nerf has been awaited AS A PATCH TO FIX WHAT WAS VERY BROKEN for a long time certificates and hte other bits of tripe they've thrown in are just little things they could do in a patch
What you're all doing is moaning about a patch that they've not released details for yet if you acctually think CCP would release a patch with so little in it and saying it's a big industry thing and have bugger all in it you're sadly mistake.
ofcause if this is all that's in it i'd hate to be one of the dev's at fanfest this year
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Oftherocks
Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.11.07 09:45:00 -
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Edited by: Oftherocks on 07/11/2008 09:54:12
Originally by: Gawain Hill
What you're all doing is moaning about a patch that they've not released details for yet if you acctually think CCP would release a patch with so little in it and saying it's a big industry thing and have bugger all in it you're sadly mistake.
I keep seeing this or similar stuff posted. Please go re-read what the devs have said. This is a phased release, the first phase was StacklessIO/Eve 64, the second (and last) phase is the remaining stuff listed on the QR features page. There is no more. The stuff they keep saying will be discussed at fanfest is not for this expansion, it is for the future. Seriously, what you see on the QR features page is what we are getting. All that stuff Oveur hinted at is for future expansions, not this one. Sorry to burst your bubble.
Edit: Here is a link proving what I am saying since no one will believe me otherwise: Explorer
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wdwjhdw
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Posted - 2008.11.07 10:12:00 -
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Originally by: Alt Sauce Seriously, what other game company throws together nerfs and calls it an expansion?
Sad sad
Blizzard if you were a priest when TBC came out. (When I unsubscribed) Dont know about other classes.
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Cpt Branko
Surge.
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Posted - 2008.11.07 11:30:00 -
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Well, coming from SISI, they did nerf practically every ship in the game bar AFs, T1 frigates , plain T2 fit unrigged interceptors (better fits being naturally nerfed), and blockade runners.
They also hit solo PVP in general with the massive weakening of solo tackle and reducing ship versatility all around.
Now, if you're one of the idiots who hates soloing because all he does is 0.0 blobbing and wants things he does not have to get nerfed, fine. However, don't pretend it's not a bunch of nerfs.
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Astria Tiphareth
Caldari 24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.11.07 12:22:00 -
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Oh stop feeding the trolls. It's bad for their digestion. ___ My views may not represent those of my corporation, which is why I never get invited to those diplomatic parties... Environmental Effects
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