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Herschel Yamamoto Bloodmoney Incorporated	Posted - 2008.11.10 22:14:00 - [61] I just find it utterly hilarious how the OP suggests a second tracking bonus as replacement. A tracking bonus adds 37.5% to your tracking, whereas a 90% web adds 900% to your tracking. Even with a range limit, switching is hardly a buff. As for shooting frigates, every marauder has room for a rack of mediums and a rack of lights. Use them to kill the small stuff, use the guns on the battleships and battlecruisers. It's not really hard.
Wannabehero Caldari Absolutely No Retreat	Posted - 2008.11.10 22:57:00 - [62] Edited by: Wannabehero on 10/11/2008 23:05:25 removed, wasn't very nice. 900%? You cannot post a finite number for the bonus tracking tracking to a turret because the equation a) contains an unknown variable (range) that heavily dictates outcome of the equation and b) contains limits (0% - 100% hit chance). That is all -- Don't harsh my mellow
Herschel Yamamoto Bloodmoney Incorporated	Posted - 2008.11.10 23:59:00 - [63] Originally by: Wannabehero Edited by: Wannabehero on 10/11/2008 23:34:04 Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto a 90% web adds 900% to your tracking. Threw me through a loop with this one. Made me revisit the tracking formula. Crazy stuff. For anyone wondering about the math, if you're tracking them at 1/10th the necessary rate, and then web them down to 1/10th their former speed, you're now tracking them perfectly, assuming they fly the same path afterwards(which NPCs will, of course). Effectively, you just multiplied your tracking against that ship by a factor of 10, which is 1000% better than before, or a 900% increase.
Cpt Branko Surge.	Posted - 2008.11.11 00:44:00 - [64] Edited by: Cpt Branko on 11/11/2008 00:44:38 Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto For anyone wondering about the math, if you're tracking them at 1/10th the necessary rate, and then web them down to 1/10th their former speed, you're now tracking them perfectly, assuming they fly the same path afterwards(which NPCs will, of course). Effectively, you just multiplied your tracking against that ship by a factor of 10, which is 1000% better than before, or a 900% increase. Don't educate people on eve-online forums. I much prefer them clueless.
Wannabehero Caldari Absolutely No Retreat	Posted - 2008.11.11 01:46:00 - [65] Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto Originally by: Wannabehero Edited by: Wannabehero on 10/11/2008 23:34:04 Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto a 90% web adds 900% to your tracking. Threw me through a loop with this one. Made me revisit the tracking formula. Crazy stuff. For anyone wondering about the math, if you're tracking them at 1/10th the necessary rate, and then web them down to 1/10th their former speed, you're now tracking them perfectly, assuming they fly the same path afterwards(which NPCs will, of course). Effectively, you just multiplied your tracking against that ship by a factor of 10, which is 1000% better than before, or a 900% increase. Tracking Penalty = Transversal / (signature * tracking) Correct? Hence x/10 for Transversal = 10*x for tracking assuming signature is constant. I understood the math fine, but the similarity between 90% and 900% set off a red flag in my head and made me search through my folder of formula and resources until I found the one with the tracking formula written on it. The tracking formula was something I hadn't hasseled around with academically for a long time. -- Don't harsh my mellow
Shadowsword COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2008.11.11 23:39:00 - [66] Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto I just find it utterly hilarious how the OP suggests a second tracking bonus as replacement. A tracking bonus adds 37.5% to your tracking, whereas a 90% web adds 900% to your tracking. Even with a range limit, switching is hardly a buff. Try training reading comprehension behond lv1, ok? I never suggested another tracking bonus for the kronos would make you hit frigs with a 90% web. I stated it would be a usefull bonus overall for the Kronos. ------------------------------------------
Cpt Branko Surge.	Posted - 2008.11.11 23:44:00 - [67] Originally by: Shadowsword Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto I just find it utterly hilarious how the OP suggests a second tracking bonus as replacement. A tracking bonus adds 37.5% to your tracking, whereas a 90% web adds 900% to your tracking. Even with a range limit, switching is hardly a buff. Try training reading comprehension behond lv1, ok? I never suggested another tracking bonus for the kronos would make you hit frigs with a 90% web. I stated it would be a usefull bonus overall for the Kronos. Yeah, but I would rather take the useful 4x increase in tracking (difference between normal web and Kronos web) rather then the also useful 1.375x increase in tracking, for some odd reason. Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Herschel Yamamoto Bloodmoney Incorporated	Posted - 2008.11.12 00:22:00 - [68] Originally by: Shadowsword Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto I just find it utterly hilarious how the OP suggests a second tracking bonus as replacement. A tracking bonus adds 37.5% to your tracking, whereas a 90% web adds 900% to your tracking. Even with a range limit, switching is hardly a buff. Try training reading comprehension behond lv1, ok? I never suggested another tracking bonus for the kronos would make you hit frigs with a 90% web. I stated it would be a usefull bonus overall for the Kronos. A tracking bonus is good, yes. Nothing wrong with having one. But if my concern is hitting things that are out-tracking me, most of that happens in close proximity to my ship(i.e., within web range), especially when fighting NPCs, a web slows them down more than and plausible tracking bonus will speed me up. If you fit one web, your effective tracking will be 3.4375x base with your bonuses and 10x base with mine, compared to the 2.5x base you get from a plain T2 web. In other words, a Kronos with present bonuses and a web tracks about three times as well as a Kronos with your proposed bonuses and a web within 10 km, and only 27% worse outside that range. So yeah, for the Kronos' role - mostly PvE - I claim that the current bonus is better than a second tracking bonus.

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