Pages: [1] :: one page |
|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
Ruri Dant
Onorata Societa
|
Posted - 2008.11.10 16:13:00 -
[1]
Hello,
Dont have much time to go through them all and see their policies, also because the few i read sounded somewhat obscure and not clear.
Me wants an antiwhiner anticarebear "bring the violence but keep it polite" kinda thing, is there any CSM candidate that supports this single and sacred rule "EVE IS PVP"?
Thank You, R
|
Omber Zombie
Gallente Frontier Technologies
|
Posted - 2008.11.10 16:15:00 -
[2]
hi ----------------------
CSM 08 Blog |
Ruri Dant
Onorata Societa
|
Posted - 2008.11.10 16:46:00 -
[3]
mmm, i checked your page out OZ, but nothing specifically made me feel you going to make the whiners shut up and let the pvpers enjoy it more :-/
|
Goumindong
Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
|
Posted - 2008.11.10 17:39:00 -
[4]
Edited by: Goumindong on 10/11/2008 17:40:18
Originally by: Ruri Dant mmm, i checked your page out OZ, but nothing specifically made me feel you going to make the whiners shut up and let the pvpers enjoy it more :-/
I certainly think there is a reasonable stance that can be taken against "whiners shut up". Whiners are one of the only ways imbalance can be detected and fixed. Fixing imbalance makes the game better.
That being said, there are a number of candidates, myself included, who are dedicated to ensuring that more aspects of the game involve pvp and that creating conflict is the central purpose of design decisions, whether that is market pvp, research pvp, mission pvp, or good old fashioned boat violence pvp.
E.G.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=899699
|
Ruri Dant
Onorata Societa
|
Posted - 2008.11.10 22:04:00 -
[5]
Well, as "anti whiner" i mean i'm tired of people trying to petition me every time i try to declare war on them, i specifically play this game for PVP as in Player VS Player combat, in space, i dont do market, i dont do production, i leave that to the carebears and select a few to extort every once in a while so i can make income (very hard earned) from PVP, so i can finance more "interesting" PVP.
For one thing i don't like the war system as it is, 3 slots are not enough, should be at least five or seven.
I would like the EULA to specify that anyone can kill you (yes more than once) and nothing will be done if that someone isnt being rude, or racist or whatever. The "harrassment" smack on the hands should kick in over time! not just for me telling them i'm coming to get you. Otherwise you're not tackling the problem, if i feel restricted in my possibility to pursue someone i'll just hire someone else to do it, simple as.
I'm not calling for an open fragfest where the shooting never stops, this is why we have empire, i'm not saying that all people should pvp, i'm just saying that everyone is free to do missions, free to do trade, free to do whatever they want EXCEPT for the PURIST PVPERS (as in ships vs ships), and if someone in the CSM isnt there to protect this dying race then i'm gonna call WWF animal protection! (joking)
No really think about it, "sandbox" and "balance". If i've benn in the game 3 years and paid my monies every month i want the CCP given right to wardeck who i want for as much as i want, and possibly if i can afford it how many as i want, and all my targets can do about it is learn the game and kill me, or pay up.
Another thing i'd like to be tackled by CSM is the insane misproportion between t2 ship efficency and COST, things are already unfair for us long timers, we skilled months (if not years) for them nice t2 ships, saved up loads to buy a nice versatile combination of ships/modules, and lo here comes along the speed nerf... what you going to do nerf jammers now that every gang will have falcons? whereas all that should have been done is give the players some more time to learn how to pvp or skill rapier/hyenas, now any noob in a frigate can come along and turn an mwd off, great a couple rifter noobalts and a blackbird (total cost? 15 mil?) can pwn any t2 recon or HAC, i call this unbalance, but on the other side of the coin i also call a Machariel 14k m/sec unbalance. I dont have the answers, i just want to keep enjoying this game
R
|
Arithron
Gallente Gallente Trade Alliance
|
Posted - 2008.11.10 22:23:00 -
[6]
PvP is the past, the present, and the future.
I'll be looking for issues that address the 'safer' feel of Eve lately. I want to see Low sec become more of a PvP zone for the players that wish to explore their darker side (actually have meaningful content there for them to participate in). I'd like to see a reverse sec status system operating in low sec also (the higher your sec status in low sec systems, the worse off you'll be). Ninja salvaging, loot stealing etc; all good professions that should be encouraged. Maybe a few tweaks to the system to make it chance based that doing such activities will result in aggro...
Arithron Vote Arithron for CSM! Check out my thread: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=899358 |
Goumindong
Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
|
Posted - 2008.11.10 22:45:00 -
[7]
Originally by: Ruri Dant
I would like the EULA to specify that anyone can kill you (yes more than once) and nothing will be done if that someone isnt being rude, or racist or whatever. The "harrassment" smack on the hands should kick in over time! not just for me telling them i'm coming to get you. Otherwise you're not tackling the problem, if i feel restricted in my possibility to pursue someone i'll just hire someone else to do it, simple as.
I have never experienced this type of problem and I've done my fair share of PvP. The worst unwarranted thing that i've seen have been local muting. Anything worse requires some serious abuse.
Quote: Another thing i'd like to be tackled by CSM is the insane misproportion between t2 ship efficency and COST, things are already unfair for us long timers, we skilled months (if not years) for them nice t2 ships, saved up loads to buy a nice versatile combination of ships/modules, and lo here comes along the speed nerf...
There is a lot of concern about the speed nerf, but you're an elite PvPer, right? you'll adapt.
I think, for the moment, we are just going to have to accept that smart tactics will have a larger advantage than they did before over the expensive ships.
I, personally, think that is a good thing, even if the changes might be a little bit severe, it means more people will be fighting. More PvP is good right? More challenge? New challenges?
|
Herschel Yamamoto
Bloodmoney Incorporated
|
Posted - 2008.11.10 23:19:00 -
[8]
I'd like to think that I'm something like what you're looking for. I'm not quite as much of a PvP purist as you are, but I think the war system needs work, and I'm a strong believer in PvP being legitimate and in fact the cornerstone of this game.
As for people petitioning you over a war, I don't think that ever happened with me, but given that I know exactly what the answer will be, I don't see why you'd care. Anyone who does that is choosing to hide behind false hope instead of doing military preparation during the opening stages, and is thus an even easier target than they would otherwise be when a GM rejects their petition.
As for T2 ships, you're trading cost for capability. A HAC is simply better than a cruiser, and mostly better than a battlecruiser. If you're good enough that the added capability is worth the added money, pay up - a veteran PvPer should have a good enough kill ratio to justify the added costs. Otherwise stick to pimping out your T1 ship skills. It's not like Cruiser 5 is wasted even if you never set foot in a HAC, after all.
I won't address the balance issues - I haven't been able to get on Singularity for a good round of testing recently - but I trust that it'll all more-or-less balance out at the end of the day, even if it does take a few months. And if you think Falcons are going to be that common, fit a long-range battleship with ECCM already - you should utterly demolish one if you plan ahead. Don't whine, play the metagame.
|
Ruri Dant
Onorata Societa
|
Posted - 2008.11.10 23:57:00 -
[9]
Nice Try,
IMHO there is nothing more meaningful that the feeling of the PVP itself, when you do your first podkill, aaah. Some players actually thanked me wardecking and killing them, saying they had their best time in the game, surely the adrenalin rush of an engagement in my eyes cant compete with a slowly growing wallet on lv4 farming.
Low sec looks to me already full of "dark siders"
I dont understand what you mean by reverse sec standing hits, but me thinks that the sound of it aint good
Looting already makes you flashy, but i think that who loots should be flashy to the corp that owns the Wreck but ALSO to the person who killed him. |
Ruri Dant
Onorata Societa
|
Posted - 2008.11.10 23:58:00 -
[10]
ok it looks like Pattern is the man to vote for! |
|
Goumindong
Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
|
Posted - 2008.11.11 00:06:00 -
[11]
Originally by: Ruri Dant
I dont understand what you mean by reverse sec standing hits, but me thinks that the sound of it aint good
I think he means that you should gain standing for killing players that have a low security status. This would be an incentive to attack low security status players and increase the amount of PvP and division between people of various sec status.
Its a fairly commonly proposed idea, but it probably wont fix the problem that it intends to fix[that its hard for player to aggressively defend space against pirates without becoming a target themselves]
Pattern is a good choice, but he is more for implementing environments[which would be more variation in the space we fight in] |
Herschel Yamamoto
Bloodmoney Incorporated
|
Posted - 2008.11.11 00:15:00 -
[12]
Originally by: Goumindong
Originally by: Ruri Dant
I dont understand what you mean by reverse sec standing hits, but me thinks that the sound of it aint good
I think he means that you should gain standing for killing players that have a low security status. This would be an incentive to attack low security status players and increase the amount of PvP and division between people of various sec status.
Its a fairly commonly proposed idea, but it probably wont fix the problem that it intends to fix[that its hard for player to aggressively defend space against pirates without becoming a target themselves]
Pattern is a good choice, but he is more for implementing environments[which would be more variation in the space we fight in]
Actually, from what I understand of Arithron's proposal, he's proposing that there be space where being at a high sec status is bad, and where being at a low sec status is good. I'm not sure of the specifics, but think of something like pirate-faction gate guns that shoot at anyone with positive sec status.
|
Goumindong
Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
|
Posted - 2008.11.11 00:57:00 -
[13]
That doesn't make sense unless you start restricting docking rights based on sec status.
|
Becq Starforged
Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
|
Posted - 2008.11.11 01:21:00 -
[14]
I support the OP's issue; it is clearly a critical concern that should be looked into by CCP immediately.
Or, put another way, consider posting in a more appropriate place next time.
|
Tusko Hopkins
HUN Corp. HUN Reloaded
|
Posted - 2008.11.12 14:08:00 -
[15]
I might be a good choice if you wanna keep EVE pvp centric and fun.
CSM representative CSM candidate for 2nd cycle Campaign website http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameb |
Pattern Clarc
Naglihiem
|
Posted - 2008.11.12 14:12:00 -
[16]
Check out my blogs... ____
"I'm for the big things, and the realy big things"
Pattern For CSM!
|
LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
|
Posted - 2008.11.12 14:27:00 -
[17]
PvP isn't just pew-pew. It's also market pvp .
I do industrial PVP and I do low-sec piracy(Ransom is good. Not only for your wallet, but also for the economy). Blowing up ships causes economic growth. Do not want .
But seriously, yeah. Violence is good and it keeps things going around. I still remember the feeling I got during some of the best fights I ever had and the subsequent looting that resulted from it.
|
Issler Dainze
Minmatar Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
|
Posted - 2008.11.12 20:13:00 -
[18]
Issler Dainze - CSM Candiadate - "Let me be your voice when you scream in space!"
I am always "antiwhiner"! If someone has an issue, they neeed to think about why and articulate their concerns INCLUDING some suggested actions for improvement. Just complaining with no constructive feedback is a waste of everyones time.
So, PvP...
I think combat PvP is important and a huge piece of the Eve experience. It is key to the risk/reward nature of Eve. It has to be balanced however. I am going to admit that intimate details of individual ship balance is not my area of expertise. I would look to the community for feedback (which I would then research) when topics related to combat PvP arise. I will however have opinions about "the arena" for PvP. I currently think some of the current dynamics of PvP in low sec has produced a large piece of Eve that isn't that good for anyone.
As for industrial PvP, this I know and this I am interested in. Business is my focus and I would be very active in CSM activities that are of this nature.
I'm also going to say right up front if you are looking for a "Yaaar, blood in my teeth, I've killed countless pods" kind of candidate I'm not that person. We do seem to have some CSM candidates that are more involved in that part of life in the 'verse. If that is who you are looking for I hope you find someone in the running that fits your views to vote for. The CSM can be a very good thing for us all and I hope you find a way to support it.
Hope that helps you decide.
Remember, "Stuffs getting better! Stuffs getting better every day! "
Issler Dainze CSM Candidate CEO Tadakatsu Obata Corporation Founder of the Honda Accord
|
Arithron
Gallente Gallente Trade Alliance
|
Posted - 2008.11.12 21:57:00 -
[19]
Low sec may have characters exploring their dark side, but there is bugger all content there for them. Consider the content for players with good sec in Empire, and weigh that against the content aimed at being an evil b*stard.
Reverse Security works just like in Empire, except reverse. If you have low sec status in Empire, and jump into a system with high security, there are consequences. Same should happen in low sec...except if you jump into a low sec system and you have high sec, there are consequences....Think of it like driving your nice car from a good area of town into a very bad area of town...it attracts attention...
Interesting that you get a few replies posted from CSM candidates, then declare Pattern getting your vote, despite him not posting before that! If you were going to support him, why ask a question in the first place?
Arithron Vote Arithron for CSM! Check out my thread: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=899358 |
Vily
Amarr Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
|
Posted - 2008.11.12 23:41:00 -
[20]
all i do is pvp
i dont put up with BS
vote vily -
|
|
Pattern Clarc
Naglihiem
|
Posted - 2008.11.13 09:36:00 -
[21]
Originally by: Ruri Dant ok it looks like Pattern is the man to vote for!
____
"I'm for the big things, and the realy big things"
Pattern For CSM!
|
Yorda
Battlestars GoonSwarm
|
Posted - 2008.11.13 13:08:00 -
[22]
It's me, I'm perfection.
|
ee21k
|
Posted - 2008.11.21 03:31:00 -
[23]
Edited by: ee21k on 21/11/2008 03:31:55 Yeah. You probably dont want to vote for me. I like the other stuff more. not that i have anything against the pvp or that it would stop me doing my job if elected. Its simply not where my interests lie. ...... Bring along the other shoe.
Boosh! |
|
|
|
Pages: [1] :: one page |
First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |